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Inside Linebacker Running Back Cornerback Defensive Tackle Outside Linebacker In that order!

Maybe if you got your head out of your arss and read my post (or understood it) you wouldn't have come up with such an idiotic comment.

I'm not saying they should try to LOSE to get a better position in the Draft on purpose. I'm just saying that if it did happen they would have a better chance of winning it all in 2008. In other words, I'm pretty much writing off the 2007 season because I don't think this team is close to being good enough to challenge for a Super Bowl ring, let alone a playoff spot. So, I'd rather go 4-12 or 5-11 if it meant winning 10 or 11 the next season. By winning (lets say) 7 games the team won't be in position in the Draft to significantly improve themselves as much as they would if they won 4 or 5 games.

Looking this whole thing over this morning, I came to the conclusion that the Bills would be best served to have a poor season record wise so that they could fall into the top 5 of next years draft and come away with several blue-chip prospects. This team was poor against the run last season and lost Fletcher, Spikes and argueably the best run support CB in the league in Clements. It's going to be very tough to find 3 starters in this draft to replace talent with talent. We also need to find a starting Hb via trade or in the Draft. The Bills as a team would have a better chance at making a run at the Bowl in 2008 if they finished poorly this season and reaped the benifits of being able to find some prime talent in next years draft and benifit from a last place schedule. To me it's all about winning that big one and I'd gladly take a step back this season for a more promising future.

I actually ran in to him at the Factory Outley mall in Erie, Pa last week. The wife was shopping for shoes while I had a pretty decent conversation with him. However, he's not my on my wife's favorite list because he sold her a lousy pair of shoes.

Just back with the family from the traditional Easter feast, so I figured I'd crack a couple of cold ones and pose this question: Peterson and Willis are gone! What do you think the Bills will do if the folowing top prospects are still available: Alan Branch Jamaal Anderson Marshawn Lynch Leon Hall Levi Brown Adam Carricker Amobi Okoye I mine as well make this a poll and just take a count of what everyone thinks!

It was a nice spirited debate between us. But for the record, they won't be taking Marshawn Lynch with their first round pick.

The debate was: Who would you take if you were the Bills GM if both Peterson and Willis were both available when it was the Bills turn to pick. Results: Adrian Peterson 15 Patrick Willis 10 The Marshawn Lynch should the Bills pick him at #12 debate (which was discussed in this tread) Results: Firstngoal over 1billsfan (4th round TKO)

According to ESPN Insider.

Nobody really knows what happened between Lynch and the girl or why he was "in the wrong place at the wrong time" with that shooting incident but those two incidents have alerted NFL teams that there could be a problem there. I'm sure every team that is interested in him has done an extensive background search on Lynch, so If he does drop in the Draft we will all know there were issues there with him. It's just my opinion but I don't think the Bills will even consider him because if they had him in for an interview then they saw what I saw (and much more) when he was on the NFL Network for an interview, the interview didn't last very long because Lynch didn't come over as being "too bright" to put it mildly. I for one wouldn't trust him with a boat-load of first round money. If both Lynch and Willis are still available when the Bills pick, it will be Willis by a landslide!

Tell me you're not serious! Please tell me you're not serious! Listen to his coaches and teamates about what they have to say are U kidding?? Do you think for one moment that they aren't going to "have his back"?? The Titans went to WVU to investigate Pacman and his coaches and teammates gave him a ringing endorsement and look where it got them! i.e = "they had his back" I do remember ESPN red-flagging Pacman for his character issues that year. Again, Marv won't take a player with the "C" word attached. Period!

I'm no Kirwan fan, but he did attend the owners meeting with Sirius radio and came away with the impression that Lynch could be falling in the Draft. Lynch is labeled with the "C" word attached. As for Brandt, I respect his opinion but if you read his Nifty 50 he has the players arranged in alphabetical order which is the only reason Lynch is at #15. I also heard ESPN's McShay say on a radio interview that Lynch could be a bit overrated because of (Jeff Tedfords spread offense) the system he was in which allowed him to gain chunks of yards. Lynch is not a top 15 pick, and the Bills won't take him with their first round pick.

Lets see Crowell a OLB coming off an injury making a switch to a new position, over Willis a tackling machine who knows the ILB position? And then a reach for Lynch who is dropping out of first round mocks faster than a speeding bullet. After breaking it down, it's a no-brainer!!! WILLIS!

I'd love it if the Bills go their hands on Peterson, but after thinking this over I feel we would be better served with Willis in the first round. Our run defense was one of the worst in the league last year, plus we lost Fletcher in the middle and Clements a solid run support Corner. We can find a Rb in the draft after the first round, but can we find a tackling machine to help our most critical need in rounds two through seven? Probably not one that will be a starter from day one. Not that both Peterson and Willis will be available to the Bills when they pick, but if they are I'm voting for Willis! Peterson vs Willis Your thoughts, and which one would you draft if they were both there if you were Marv???? Willis 1 Peterson 0 (after my vote)

His stock is starting to drop. I've seen him left out of several first round mocks including this one: NFL.com Kirwan 1. Oakland: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech -- The Raiders have lots of needs, but as long as quarterback is one of them, they have to respond by selecting the guy with the great deep ball, JaMarcus Russell -- unless the Lions let Josh McCown go for reasonable compensation. The Lions aren't going to give McCown away but a quarterback who has one year left on his deal and didn't play a down last year can't be worth more than a fourth- or fifth-round pick. I'm sure the Raiders would have loved to have McCown in town for their minicamp last week, but no luck. If it gets resolved, then Johnson it will be. Let's go with Johnson, the top-rated player on most draft boards! 2. Cleveland (after trade with Detroit): JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU -- The Lions here could take Russell, Gaines Adams or move down, but it would not surprise me if it is a swap with Cleveland and the Browns take Russell. 3. Detroit (after trade with Cleveland): Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson -- Now that they've traded down, the Lions could go in a lot of directions. I think they'll sit right here and take a quarterback later in the draft. There's a growing sentiment that Brady Quinn is marching back up the draft boards. 4. Arizona (after trade with Tampa Bay): Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin -- There's no reason for the Bucs to move up if Calvin Johnson is gone at the top spot, so now they let the draft come to them. Joe Thomas would be a solid pick for the Bucs even though they have Luke Petitgout, but they will seriously talk about Brady Quinn even though they have Jeff Garcia, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski and maybe Jake Plummer. I say they will move down one spot and let the Cardinals take Thomas. 5. Tampa Bay (after trade with Arizona): Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas -- Brady Quinn is on the board, but I say the Bucs are thinking Anderson. The big defensive end is the eventual replacement for Simeon Rice and the Tampa Bay defense needs an injection of youth. The Bucs would move down again if someone believes Adrian Peterson is the running back Jon Gruden claims is "one of the best ever." 6. **Washington: Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville -- There are a lot of rumors that the Redskins will trade out of this spot if they can get their hands on Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs. If they stay in the No. 6 spot, they could take Branch or LaRon Landry. If Chicago winds up in this spot, it could be for Brady Quinn. For now, Washington will stay put and take Okoye. One former GM said Branch's stock has dropped slightly because of inconsistent effort. Washington should try and move down a few spots if this is true. 7. Minnesota: Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame -- The decision to stay put and not move up pays off for Brad Childress and his staff. Childress gets a solid quarterback who should be a 10-year starter. If Quinn is gone, then the Vikings will turn to a wide receiver. I would entertain all calls from teams looking to jump over the Falcons for LaRon Landry. 8. Atlanta: LaRon Landry, S, LSU -- After trading Matt Schaub, the Falcons now are two spots higher at No. 8 and will take Landry if he's here. He is the best safety in the draft and should be a Week 1 starter. If not, it will be Amobi Okoye. Bobby Petrino is the new head coach and he coached the 19-year-old in college. If Landry and Okoye are not available, then Levi Brown would be a good fit. Daunte Culpepper and the Dolphins would breath easier with Levi Brown protecting his blind side. 9. Miami: Levi Brown, OT, Penn State -- The Dolphins have not had a real solid left tackle since Richmond Webb. Brown will line up Week 1 in September and won't come off the field for 10 years. 10. Houston: Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma -- Houston moved down two spots in the Schaub trade and probably lost the chance to take Levi Brown, so the Texans call Peterson's name. Even though they signed Ahman Green, Peterson is the highest-rated player on their board at this point. Tampa Bay would sure like a call from Houston to move up. Michael Turner, the Chargers running back who is a restricted free agent, could affect this pick. 11. San Francisco: Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska -- Carriker is a great fit for coach Mike Nolan and his desire to build a solid 3-4 defense with high-character players. He plugs in as a rookie and holds his spot for eight to 10 years. 12. Buffalo: Patrick Willis, LB, Mississippi -- Willis is the best middle linebacker in the draft, and the Bills lost London Fletcher in free agency and traded Takeo Spikes to the Eagles. Willis recently ran under 4.4 in the 40-yard dash at his Pro Day and is a tackling machine. Willis can play the Will position and Angelo Crowell can play the Mike. Don't be surprised if Buffalo tries to move down a few spots and save some money with its pick. For example, Carolina could jump up two spots and take Willis while Buffalo drops down for Penn State's Paul Posluszny. 13. **St. Louis: Alan Branch, NT, Michigan -- There has been a lot of debate lately about what the Rams will do here. Last week, I thought Okoye would be available here. However, a big, penetrating tackle is a great value. The Rams never should have let Ryan Pickett go; here's a chance to recover. 14. Carolina: Greg Olsen, TE, Miami (Fla.) -- If the Panthers wanted Willis, they would have moved up, but the Carolina decision makers seem very impressed with Olsen. The Panthers need a linebacker but this crop does not impress them enough. Olsen would help solve Carolina's third-down problems and also help Steve Smith and Keyshawn Johnson. 15. Pittsburgh: Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh -- The Steelers could easily take an outside linebacker here, but the corner might have a higher grade. Mike Tomlin plays Cover 2; corners in zone are not as big a priority as they are for man-coverage teams. But Revis ran a 4.39 and is a solid player. By the way, the Steelers are staying in the 3-4 regardless of the rumors. Lawrence Timmons should get consideration here, but Revis already has worked out in the Steelers' building. 16. Green Bay: Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU -- There is downward pressure on the running backs in this draft. (RB Marshawn Lynch is dropping because of things out of his control.) Bowe would give Favre another big target. The Pack will take a running back in the next round. There will be consideration for a safety like Reggie Nelson. 17. Jacksonville: Reggie Nelson, S, Florida -- Deon Grant is gone, so a starting safety is needed. There will be discussions about other safeties like Michael Griffin, but Nelson's personal workout should make him the choice. The Jaguars could embrace the idea of taking Lawrence Timmons at this spot. 18. Cincinnati: Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas -- The Bengals want a corner or a safety. Houston is a solid pick, but I wonder what kind of offense the team would have if Greg Olsen were selected here. 19. Tennessee: Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC -- Drew Bennett is gone and offensive coordinator Norm Chow needs a few of his "own guys." Jarrett scores touchdowns and is a very big target in the red zone. Some people have Jarrett out of the first round, but here's a guy who scored a touchdown once every five receptions. 20. N.Y. Giants: Lawrence Timmons, OLB, Florida State -- The free-agent market for linebackers became lean when Cato June signed with the Bucs. The Giants completed a transaction to acquire Kavika Mitchell, the Kansas City free-agent linebacker. But his deal is only for one year, so linebacker is still a priority. If Jarrett is still available, the Giants will think about it, because Amani Toomer is coming off an injury and makes a lot of money. Plaxico Burress can't be a long-term answer when he rarely shows up in the offseason. Jarrett grew up minutes away from Giants Stadium. 21. Denver: Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida -- The Broncos lost out in their pursuit of Patrick Kerney, so Moss makes some sense at this spot. 22. Dallas: Michael Griffin, S, Texas -- The Cowboys will look at the best corners, safeties and wide receivers at this spot. With three or four solid wide receivers and at least two defensive backs left with first-round grades, Jerry Jones will get a good player. A wide receiver like Bowe, Ginn or Jarrett would work if they happened to be on the board. 23. Kansas City: Ted Ginn Jr., WR, Ohio State -- The Chiefs really want a great defensive tackle at this spot but the draft board says wait -- because the best are gone. If Ginn does fall to the Chiefs, it will be a big day for the Chiefs offense. He will push the field and create underneath lanes for tight end Tony Gonzalez. He also has eight touchdowns on kick returns, and Dante Hall isn't the player he once was. 24. New England: Leon Hall, CB, Michigan -- The Patriots worked out Hall recently and now he's dropping into their lap. He's too hard to pass up at this point. (Here comes the run on corners.) 25. N.Y. Jets: Aaron Ross, CB, Texas -- The Jets need help in the secondary and on the defensive line, and now that Olsen is gone, they discuss the remaining corners and take Ross. 26. Philadelphia: Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State -- The Eagles set up their trade with the Bills by signing free agent Monte Reagor so they could trade Darwin Walker, so now they will turn to a cornerback or safety. They will discuss Jon Beason, Anthony Spencer and Brandon Meriweather before taking one of the biggest corners in the draft and one who can match up with the big NFC East receivers. Some feel Marcus is a second-round pick, but cornerbacks have a way of moving up on draft day. 27. New Orleans: Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan -- The versatile lineman is moving up the board. With Greg Olsen gone and no defensive tackles available, the Saints will take the tackle. I think the Saints might have to move up to get a quality corner, and it's a good idea. Dallas loves to make trades on draft day, and the No. 22 spot would insure a corner could be had. 28. New England: Ryan Kalil, C, USC -- With two first-round picks and a very aggressive offseason in the free-agency market, the Patriots can afford to take the highest-rated center and not worry about the position for a very long time. 29. Baltimore: Anthony Spencer, LB/DE, Purdue -- The Ravens lost Adalius Thomas and are prepared to play with the guys they have on the roster, but Spencer might fall to them and he is a perfect fit as a pressure player. 30. San Diego: Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee -- The Chargers need an injection of young receivers and Meachem looked fast and smooth at the Combine. If he falls to San Diego, this would be a steal for the team. If he doesn't and Dwayne Bowe is available, he's another great choice. 31. Chicago: Jon Beason, OLB, Miami (Fla.) -- Lance Briggs could be traded to Washington. Even if he's not, it doesn't look like Chicago ever intends to do a long-term deal with him. A wide receiver is a possibility, but Beason would solve a more immediate problem. 32. Indianapolis: Tank Tyler, DT, N.C. State -- A bit of a reach here, but DT is a need area. It would not surprise me to see Bill Polian look at a cornerback, safety or outside linebacker here. A DT like Tyler or a corner like Daymeion Hughes? I think the best DT on the board wins out if Willis, Timmons and Beason are gone. Any of those three could replace Cato June.

I agree! They can't pass on Willis for anyone in this draft except maybe Peterson. It's one of the better mock sites out there and one that I visit every year.

I've posted this before and I'm doing so again: The Bills won't take Lynch because of the "C" word. Character or lack there of. Not a Marv type of guy.

Thats WAAAY to steep for Turner! There is no way in hell the Bill will trade next years first because with a much tougher schedule and somewhat of a rebuilding year, the team will likely win 5-6 games which would give them a Top 10 pick in the Draft .

It's fixed!

http://www.gousfbulls.com/ViewArticle.dbml...p;ATCLID=216523 Stephan Nicholas

I'd give them a B! Everyone knew we were trading Spikes and Holcombe was on his way out anyway. Walker isn't great but he's OK and it seems to be a fair trade for both parties.

The best thing about his site is the message forum, he's been clueless in the past in his mocks until right before the draft when all the sites seem to copy Rich Gosselins. P.S. No way in hell Marv takes a bad apple like Lynch!

Just a bit early for an April fools joke isn't it?? If the Bills pay Chris Brown that type of money, I'm coming out of retirement!

His lack of smarts has nothing to do with where he grew up, I was referring to his interviews on the NFL Network. Read all the posts!

It would never happen, I pick the jury!