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The Raiders paid a fortune for Larry Brown after he made some picks against the Steelers in the Super Bowl. The Raiders failed to notice that Deion was not getting any throws... against the other team's top WR... in single coverage...

It is amazing how corners are "judged" by fans. A corner who gets 15 throws a game and picks off one is vastly superior to the corner who gets no throws... no stats = no good... and as to why he was not thrown at... well, maybe the announcers will explain that... and if they don't it is proof he sukks... Eric King has been lockdown as nickel.

"I would hope so." and why is that? BTW... from KFFL... Bills | McGee very limited Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:36:57 -0800 Buffalo Bills CB Terrence McGee (hamstring) was very limited in practice Thursday, Nov. 17, and remains questionable for Week 11. You really want to be careful with hammies...

Does King stay at nickel or does he start? This should be a great ol' smash mouthed game.

Wonderlic Scores: Roscoe: 10 Everett: 12 Frank Gore: 6 Brock Berlin: 13 You cannot spell DUMB without UM... Who put the "i" in Caines? A: Michael Irvin...

Hint: injuries are not just like timeouts...

"padme?" - you a Star Wars fan? Me too... Peters was a TE for Arkansas. TEs get to block off the edge from both sides, so Peters came to the Bills with experience. Then he was an OT on the PS last year. Andy Heck was switched from TE to OT at Notre Dame, and became a First Round pick and a quality NFL OT. There is a "mirror" footwork issue switching from OLT to ORT, but Peters has the benefit of TE experience there. That is not to be confused with going from OT to OG, where the assignments and reads are different. I would also be careful about putting a halo on Peters. Sure, he has promise, but he is also getting a lot of help. When Peters, by himself, regularly fends off the top DEs in the NFL for 4+ seconds, then he will have proven something. Right now, he gets too much help. The same thing is happening with Jax and Khalif Barnes right now. Jax has switched to a quick throw offense and Barnes is getting help almost every play, but the Jax fans are ready to put him in Canton. It is not an impressive play to be part of a double team or to get one contact when the ball comes out in 3 seconds. Peters has hope, but is far from a quality NFL OT right now.

Then it seems that you know very little about OL play...

"The Bills didn't want a rookie at LG, otherwise they probably would have started Preston (which I HOPE happens now)." Hopefully, the Bills just want a LG who is something other than a disaster. If there is one qualification to play LG for the Bills, it is being over 340 and sukkin. That's the resume the Bills are lookin for... "So it was either take a chance on Big Mike and hope that at least he shows something, or stick with Anderson. So after Mike showed he couldn't hack it, it was back to Big Ben. I don't think keeping Big Mike in there would have helped things any, if not made things worse." One needs experience to get it right. You don't seem to comprehend that. There was absolutely no point of just putting Big Mike in there for a half only to "discover" that he is totally clueless as an OG right now. ANYONE with a brain knew that. Hooking him only verified just how clueless the Bills were on that subject. "This (Big Mike at #4) has been rehashed time and time again." To some of us who watched Big Mike at Texas, it was clear at the time that he was not going to cut it pass blocking as an ORT in the NFL. However, that is not what impressed the Bill brass. What impressed the Bill brass was his size, just like with Bennie. Nobody who knows anything about OL play could possibly have justified $5 mil for what was on the Raven game film. The similarity is absolute. Bennie and Mike are the SAME wrong read... that being that SIZE = quality OL. Ever hear of Langston Walker of the Raiders? Oh, my gosh, he's a second rounder 6'8" 340 - must be awesome... "It seemed like a good pick at the time." And precisely what evidence was there of that? A quote from a Draft "guru?" Admiring Mike's huge size with no clue as to how that would translate on an NFL field? Do yourself a big favor and ignore the guru quotes and pay attention to what you observe yourself. If you do that, you will discover yourself just how clueless most "gurus" are to start with...

... and pay Bennie $5 mil...

Regardless of his pay, Big Mike is simply not going to be fluent in guard reads right away, as Geisinger wasn't in preseason. Those two are both career OTs. That Big Mike had the same problems with stunt recognition that Geisinger had in preseason should be NO SURPRISE at all. What is shocking is that the Bill brass seems to have expected differently, and got frustrated in mid-game about it. I find that absolutely shocking. If the expectation was for immediate success, then Justin should have started, because he was doing better with such reads later in preseason and actually has a few preseason games playing OG. Big Mike has ZERO. I'd even wager that the 4.0 Vandy boy has the advantage upstairs as well... Regardless, this was a shocking indication of absolute cluelessness by the Bill brass, the type of cluelessness needed to spend a #4 overall on Big Mike in the first place...

"Maybe the Guard position is not "instinctual" yet so that he can simply react and not think." A lot of folks here seem to think that moving from OT to OG is just like changing batteries in a flashlight. That is very wrong. It takes time and experience. Whether its Mike or Geisinger, for goodness sake, let the guy play there a few games before hooking him.

No question that Big Mike is likely to have the same issues at OG that Justin had in preseason. It is actually easier to switch from OG to OT than vice-versa. Just simply adding his height, weight, and Draft selection and coming up with an assumption that Big Mike will be the next great OG may not jive with reality. Sunday should provide an answer, as Bennie needs to be canned, and the Bills need Big Mike to earn his money somewhere.

Larry P was fun to watch... Justin is a position switcher - that's why he fell to round 6.

"If a guy is playing a position in a back up role, and the team decides to move over a Starter from a different spot, that tells me Geisinger isn't NFL ready yet." You are someone who makes a lot of assumptions, trusting the coaches as unimpeachable. The Bills clearly are not happy with Mike. They have a lot of cash invested in Mike, and his future as an OT with the Bills could very well be over. The coaches may just want to look at Mike at OG to see if there is something worth keeping there. I would not conclude that Justin "is not ready" because of that. The coaches may even think that, but that doesn't make it correct, it just makes it their opinion, as it was their opinion that Bennie was the answer at ORG for $5 mil, and their opinion was a tad off on that even with years of Ravens film to study. The FO and the coaches make errors. Paying up for Bennie and Drafting Big Mike were two of them. Passing over Randy Starks and Sean Locklear for Tim Anderson was another. Wait until you see Justin play, and then make "your" opinion based on that observation, and not what some reporter or coach says about that.

I'm a 'dore - class of '88. The first thing you need to know about Justin is that he had zero experience playing OG in the SEC. He was a four year OLT starter, facing the likes of David Pollack and Marcus Spears, someone Justin dominated as an ORT in the Senior Bowl. He was ALL SEC as a junior, and played as a senior most of the year with a sprained knee. However, Justin is clearly built more like a guard or ORT. He has a thick, strong lower body and is not quick enough for OLT in the NFL. I rarely am surprised when NFL teams make errors. What is even more surprising is that folks like you are absolutely, positively sure that whatever an NFL team does, it is the right thing to do. I would like to see Justin get a few starts at OLG, or another position. Whether the Bills do that is their problem, not mine. What I am sure about is what I saw of Justin at Vandy, and as a very impressive OG in the Shrine Game (he played OG in the Shrine, OT in the Senior Bowl). So, in summation, you and I have two totally different standards. You regard the coaches and GMs as absolutely flawless, and I do not. I trust my eyes... and what the Bills do with Mike Williams has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion of Justin...

No question it was a horrible offseason to look for OL talent. The Draft totally blew there. The FAs were terribly lacking and overpriced. NYG paid a fortune for an average ORT in McKenzie. Ditto for Frisco and OLT Jennings. I wanted Pork Chop Womack, who cost about as much as Bennie did, but he has been injured and now is where he's been the past few years, the top back-up at every position except C. If there is any second guessing, it was taking Tim Anderson over Sean Locklear last year, as Locklear's fine play at ORT has put the Chop on the pine.

Mike Williams was never an OLT prospect. He never had the quick feet needed. Those who were babbling about Mike playing OLT are the ones "busted" here. McKinnie has been a disappointment. He held out, then he had injuries. Like many from the U, McKinnie has a giant tude. While McKinnie has awesome potential, he has yet to reach it, and in that circus in Minnesota, is unlikely to get the discipline needed. I am also somewhat surprised that Mike is being tried at OLG instead of ORG. The footwork for ORG is much closer to ORT than the OLG. CV could switch, or, better yet, take a look at Geisinger. Regardless, the switch from tackle to guard is almost universally assumed to be easy. It is not. It will take time and experience for Mike to become a good OG. Switching him now in midseason is waving the white flag and planning for 06...

I agree. The most basic mistake a football novice can do is assume size = talent for OLs. Bennie proved that wrong in spades. As for Big Mike as an OG, it is not like there is much to lose by checking that out. Big Mike is hardly a quality ORT pass protector. Then again, neither is Gandy. Peters is a wildcard with a lot of potential, but is hardly a quality NFL OT as is. I would rather see Peters moved to OLT and go from there. Keep Holcomb around to take the beating until the line gets some cohesion.

OK, so # of posts = Draft expertise. Got it. Thanks for the education...

Really, did he Draft on the clock, or do another one of those.... Round 1: Matt Leinart Round 2: Ahmad Brooks Round 3: D'Brickshaw Ferguson Round 4: Reggie Bush Round 5: AJ Hawk type Drafts?? And, oh, yeah, what are my Draft qualifications?? LOL!!

I think if Justin started now there would be 2 or 3 games where Justin would struggle and then he would be a fine OLG for years. At some point, the Bills should take that plunge and do it, because Bennie is a certified disaster and Geisinger has tremendous upside. Justin cannot learn on the bench. In fact, I'd like to see this OL as soon as it is clear the Bills are out of the playoffs: LT - Peters LG - Geisinger C - Preston RG - CV RT - Mike Let Peters, Justin and Duke get in there and learn how to work as a unit. The Bills have two good blocking TEs to weld to Peters outside hip to help the QB survive. Start that OL for the final four+ games and 2006 will look a lot better...

The Bears tried Gandy at both guard and tackle. Gandy does not play with power and gets pushed around at OG. Gandy is a marginal, street-level talent, and no long term answer to OLT or OG, or anything...

"For the line as a whole, this is probably the single biggest deficiency- too many players without the smarts to pick up complex blocking schemes." http://www.buffalobills.com/team/player_bi...layer_id=122604 A model of consistency, Justin has been one of the few bright spots for the Commodores’ program since arriving on campus as a freshman. This massive road grader is one of the finest trap blockers in the country. He knows how to use his size and aggressive nature to engulf defensive lineman that dare to challenge him in the trenches. Justin attended Mount Lebanon (Pittsburgh, Pa.) High, where he earned second-team All-State honors as a senior. He led the team to an 11-2 record and the state quarterfinals that year and was named to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette "Fabulous 22" and the Pittsburgh Tribune Review "Terrific 25" squads. He was the starting left tackle for the Pennsylvania team in the “Big 33” Classic and was also selected All-District and All-Conference. Justin played on the baseball team that won the 1998 Western Pennsylvania Championship. He was a member of National Honor Society and high honor roll student, graduating with a 4.0 grade point average. Regarded as the school’s finest prospect on the offensive line since the days of Will Wolford (1982-85), Justin brings a love for the game, a strong desire to succeed and stellar leadership ability to this young team. He is one of the strongest players on the college gridiron, boasting several team records in the weight room, including a 600-pound bench press, 43 repetitions of the 225-pound bench press, 650-pound squat and 1600-pound total weight (bench/squat/clear). Justin has started every game (43) that he’s played in for the Commodores, including a string of 26 consecutive games, before being sidelined for several contests due to injury in 2003. The two-time team captain is a devastating run blocker, but also shows great technique in protecting the quarterback’s blind side from the blitz and pass rush…Even for a player of his size, he does an excellent job of staying low in his stance and exploding off the snap to immediately gain leverage. Want SMART football players from the SEC? Then check out Vandy... and... well, just Vandy...

"What indications do you have that Geisinger is not another Dylan McFarland-a guy who lasts 1 season because he was a draft choice & gets cut next camp?" Um, well, I just watched him for four years in college... and at the Hula and Senior Bowls, where he dominated... but you clearly know he was a 6th round pick, so your opinion is clearly based on superior evidence... like the ability to parrot what you read somewhere... "He definitely will NOT be starting next season-he was a friggin 6th round pick who has shown less than nothing" LOL!!! In the preseason game I watched him, the only mistake he made was on a stunt where he was late reading it and got caught holding the DE who stunted. In that preseason game, Justin pancaked several defenders, twice on sweeps. Justin got movement on his DT on run plays, and held up well in straight pass blocking situations. As he was a four year OLT at Vandy, he will need time and experience to learn OG stuff like stunt recognition. That won't stop him from being a good one. But, heck, there is some quote from some reporter somewhere that formed the basis of "your" "opinion" of Justin... and parroting must be proof... "Now Peters was a pleasant surprise in his 1st NFL start" I suppose that you are going to parrot yet another quote from some reporter as "your" opinion of that. Peters did exactly as I said above - played well for his level of experience, but had a ton of help and did get beaten badly several times late in the game. Now, of course, had that reporter said Peters had been burned and looked awful, "your" "opinion" here would be... just that...