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i wouldnt mind losing milloy, he cant catch a cold, misses tackles, gets beat deep, and the only tackles he makes are from the front 7 being so horrible, he also never gets to te QB when he blitzes

me

im more excited about fairchild and fewell

yeah like signing and drafting good players

I think its funny that when a coaching change occurs if there even an inclination the person isnt the next vince lombardi this whole board goes nuts, bashing him to no end before it is even officially announced. Yet, when we hire someone who seems very qualified, and people generally like such as fairchild and fewell, there isnt one thing said about him, just one thread. So this is my thread of supporting these decisions since i am a bills fan. I like to remain optimistic and the only person that isnt afraid to be excited is D' men. So everyone who wants to support these hires on a generally negative based board go ahead.

thats what i was shooting for

im not saying we were winning, im saying that maybe with better coaching and some better players at other positions these players' performances would stand out to you. I dont know how you can argue that individually they failed. 1 - CB Nate Clements, has lead our team in interceptions for years and is the only bills DB that actually takes the ball away on a consistant basis, a pro bowl player, a franchise tag player or worthy of, and will draw high competition in the free agent market if we cant sign him. 2 - DE Aaron Schobel, like clements, has lead our team in sacks the last few years, if we didnt have freaks like freeney and jason taylor in our conference he would have been in the pro bowl, we signed him long term for big bucks, and for a second round pick thats outstanding. 2 - RB Travis Henry, say what you want, with us he gave 1300 and 1400 yard seasons and was snubbed of the pro bowl. First back with that many yards since thurman. I know where he is now but that didnt happen for with the bills, we dumped him before anything got out. 3 - DT Ron Edwards, spent quality time as a back up and when needed to start did a decent job, good enough for us to not re-sign pat williams, he was injured this year which hurt his stock. 3 - OT Jonas Jennings, was our only good lineman on a terrible line, he got crap his whole tenure in buffalo and then when he hit free agency everybody screamed we needed to re-sign him. lets not forget that he was drafted as a guard possible RT and then excelled to the left side. i dont know how you can say these guys didnt give us quality time, granted we didnt win much, but this is only 5 players on a 53 man roster and dumb coaches.

I received a lot of posts on my last topic that the drafting in the first 3 rounds was bad, i dont think it was that bad, maybe we missed a few good players that other teams got, sure, everyone does, but i dont think the players overall were bad, except for the disgusting draft of 2002. Here they are: 2005: 2 - WR Roscoe Parrish 3 - TE Kevin Everett i think it's too early to tell, although i will say that parrish can only succeed in the slot as a number 3, which is fine, but to draft that in the 2nd round is too high. 2004: 1 - WR Lee Evans 1 - QB JP Losman 3 - DT Tim Anderson Might be the best one, we all know what evans can do, too early for to decide on losman, and if we didnt have anderson this season we would have had to put shane matthews at DT 2003: 1 - RB Willis McGahee 2 - DE Chris Kelsay 3 - LB Angelo Crowell Another great draft here, well as long as willis can get back on track, i cant blame them for taking kelsay, many were upset we didnt take him with our 1st rounder instead of mcgahee, and crowell looks like he could be a star 2002: 1 - OT Mike Williams 2 - WR Josh Reed 2 - DE Ryan Denney 3 - SS Coy Wire Ok this draft is disgusting like i said, if i ever could puke out a draft this is what it would look like 2001: 1 - CB Nate Clements 2 - DE Aaron Schobel 2 - RB Travis Henry 3 - DT Ron Edwards 3 - OT Jonas Jennings All of these players are quality, and even if you think they're not you cant argue they gave the Bills quality time, except for edwards' injuries. I dont think these are that bad, we could have had better, but what do you guys think

since van pelt just accepted the QB job at UB i dont know if he's avaliable

dont you think that if fairchild wanted him he would have hired him by now?

ok, but even with mcgee thats only one player

The decisions made on the first day of the draft on who we take are made collectively by the whole organization, GM, HC, Owner, Scouts ect. But the second day the information that the GM's have are relied heavily upon the scouts information. I'm worried that we have bad scouting and here's why. It seems like every year after the 4th round we get no quality players, granted the talent diminished round after round but i mean these guys suck. Here's the guys from the 5th round and after since 2001. 2005: 5 - CB Eric King, i think he will be good, no complaints 6 - OL Justin Geisinger 7 - RB Lionel Gates 2004: 4 - TE Tim Euhus 7 - OT Dylan McFarland 7 - WR Jonathan Smith 2003: 4 - WR Sam Aiken 5 - OG Ben Sobieski 6 - DT Luvale Sape 7 - LB Mario Haggan, no complaints 2002: 5 - DT Justin Bannan 6 - CB Kevin Thomas, no complaints 7 - OG Mike Pucillo 7 - WR Rodney Wright 7 - FB Jarrett Ferguson 7 - LB Dominique Stevenson These guys arent good, they're not even good special teamers, and most of them arent even on the team anymore. Just wondering what you thought.

so how does this work actually? and after the draft is over are we done? or is there more?

if he wants a QB, theres no doubt in my mind he is after the 2nd pick for Leinart, i dont see Vince Young fitting into Saban's offense

i'll take cincy

yeah and he looks more better lol

yes, i think if we were winning now as opposed to back then, everyone would hate the throwbacks. Just because the throwbacks remind us of the good old days doesnt mean we should wear them or they look better.

yes, is there a point?

i thought he was the WR coach for us?

I personally think they have a great shot at the super bowl, i rank our division like this next year: 1.) Miami 2.) Pats 3.) Bills 4.) Jets I am very worried about the phins

i have no doubt the the d-line coach we hired is good, however, bryce fisher was always a good player, the problem was nobody wanted to draft him because of his air force commitment. While he was here we all saw his talent, i dont give any credit to this coach for "making him a good player" because i think no matter where bryce was he was going to be good.

i agree

im a little skeptical about max, just cuz he weighs like 350 with no clothes on, another bennie anderson? i just dont want to draft another lineman with weight issues thats all

what does any of that crap have to do with willis' speed? none of that makes him run the 40 slower