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I'd feel a whole lot better about a young stud QB on the roster. It would make me feel better about the WR core on the whole. Regardless of their talent level.

I think your realistic take may be spot on. Perhaps a game less (from 6-7 to 5-6 wins)

I absolutely get not liking the trade(s). All I'm saying is Sammy, IMO, is not essential to our success moving forward.

I gave it a thumbs down (though might be better than red) needs white grill too

I believe there's a poll out around here that 2/3 say - yeah - we believe it. Maybe - just not in their vision. Not the end of the world as many here would have you think.

Jethro isn't the only one. There's plenty of chicken littlin' going on here. Serious question - what did you anticipate our record prior to trades? Your prediction now? Would now suit you? I don't claim to be an "insider" but I'm confident saying he had reason. Yep - with Sammy, what? 12-4 and a spot AFC CG? Pretty much the same prior to the trades as I see it. wrong

I do like this

Spilling more whine, I see. At least you didn't use the word pathetic this time. Yeeeeeeah

This regime is here for the long haul. Get used to it.

Boldin bad for Zay and the other young wideouts? TT? Eric Wood? Trade Mccoy? Marcel? get out from underneath his contract. He doesn't seem like their cup of tea. Incognito? Glenn? KW? What would you do to tank? Forgot to mention Lorenzo

I would contend that Brandon Cooks is overkill. With Brady behind center he'll make Hogan, Mitchell and of course Edelman look like the 3 amigo's. Not to mention Gronk. Lol - Cooks. How many Wrs can say they've left the likes of Brees and IMPROVED who's pitching to them?!?

No doubt - amazing what good coaching can do. Sammy is a luxury not needed on that team. He's not necessary to win.

I'm sorry. I must've missed how the talks went between Bills brass and Sammy re: 5th year. You have the inside? Spill it. And no, no way Sammy goes to Pats. They won't pay want he'll want. Poor value and they don't need him.

Right - I was merely pointing out that those in favor of this move need to get off the premise that Sammy didn't want to stay. As you said, it is obvious - just not to everyone.

yessir - agreed Agree on this also. The exact opposite, actually. He was not wanted.

So it's pretty obvious. Sammy didn't fit in the long term plan.

Whether you like the trades or not, there's no denying the Bills are less talented today vs prior to trades. I believe there were several reasons as to why they chose to complete these deals. Fit, contract, maybe character, direction - whatever else - I don't know. I'll say this, right moves or not, BALLSY! They have a vision of what it takes to build what they think is a winner. I suspect that they intend to look back, as I hope we all do, and say - "Now, what was everyone so up in arms about?" Here's to hoping they're right.

I don't think that's their plan.

Sammy >>>>>>>>>>>Mathews Not debatable

You know, I truly believe Sammy is a terrific talent. Fact is, the QB/WR we're discussing hadn't had enough time to become an item.

On the surface, I can see why anyone would think this.

So, Sammy was irreplaceable?

As I said - fleeting.

Yes - I, too, believe he was moved because Beane and McD truly thought Sammy didn't check off the talent boxes. I don't have issue with anyone who isn't down with this trade, but to come to this conclusion is a tad premature IMO. No, I understood the point. I think you may have misunderstood mine. "Taylor to Watkins" was never an item. Again, I get it. Sammy is a wonderful talent. understood - TT needs to pull up his pants and get the ball to who's here. If he's good enough, he will.

Jimbo may have been a little over the top with his statement, no? Kelly to Reed was tried and true - historic. Taylor to Sammy? Fleeting, if not unnoticeable.