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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Go laugh at a girl dying again garbage. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
It's a reaction based on not much evidence yet, which is fine. Wall Street blows around on fear. There is some early indication of it being more contagious but that's VERY early and a limited data set. Vaccine resistance and severity are not yet known at all. I'm more worried about shutdowns in general, not in response to this just yet. A bunch of countries and municipalities going in for more lockdowns unnecessarily even before this. Total lunacy. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
People freaking out are idiots. People laughing at it (you) are idiots. Of course, you’re the guy who laughed at a child dying and spread a conspiracy about it so you’re generally just a garbage human. How about we keep studying it and see what we learn? Unlike the others, this variant appears initially to be worthy of more attention. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The unvaccinated drive up hospitalizations and deaths unnecessarily but otherwise true. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I have two cards. Just carry the photos of them. No biggie. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
How do you put in this work and still get this SO wrong? The case rate, death rate, and hospital rate is 50% in the US compared to last year at this time, despite a 2x contagious delta. And based on this, you still believe that vaccines don’t work? Can’t help ya there. Go science. Go Bills. We are still well above the pandemic death threshold. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Found what I was remembering ring on with anf for Covid. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/ People are still dying from Covid at a high rate, as born out by the provisional death counts. But it would be great to know these finer numbers. Places like Erie County are massively overreacting. Thankful for vaccines despite delta! -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Why do you think I posted this? I am anti mandate anti mask (except doc offices…that’s prob a good policy) as I’ve said many times. Get vaccinated get boosted. And I’ll keep posting about effectiveness because people keep questioning effectiveness and go unchallenged by the likes of you. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Agreed re Fauci to an extent. He's had the bad role of being the face of an ever-changing landscape for a deadly virus and politicians making bad decisions since day one at every level DeSantis policy-wise only, made the best decisions. No one else comes close. But leadership-wise for encouraging people to get vaccinated and stay safe, he's been a turd. Fauci has been far too confident in his predictions, which makes him look like a fool. Plenzmd1 said today on PPP: "so [people should] take the shot even if the real world date is proving [the vaccines] dont work?" Plenty like him believe the vaccine studies and data are hoaxes/conspiracies. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Ya think vaccines don't work because of case counts in certain states? Pretty sure older folks think they are working well in my state despite delta: Under 20s, the least likely to be vaccinated, driving the case counts. But VACCINES DON'T WORK and Fauci and something something angry. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Sprechen Sie English? Sorry this was a miscommunication. The thing I couldn't find was that some state started tracking people hospitalized with covid vs people hospitalized with covid and comorbidities. I just can't remember where I saw that. It was helpful data to see, especially in the northeast where this time of year, hospitals rise normally. People do talk about the proven treatments. There are a few now. It's great news. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Wierd stat but encouraging. Certainly how I feel. I am annoyed by, but respectful of, mask requests at shop doors but otherwise doing nothing differently. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I'm sure the Arbery verdict is about to take the wind out of the sails of this discussion for the day. Genuinely asking: What are you trying to show me here? -
COVID health insurance exclusions
Sundancer replied to SectionC3's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Agreed, and he's using his own narrow slice of statistics to fit his/your narrative. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
By the way, Covid hospitalizations are about half what they were last year at this time currently on a much less steep incline, but, VACCINES DON'T WORK. VACCINES DON'T WORK is the work of plenzmd1, based on the his own studies published on a Bills Political board. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I don't blame anyone for March and April 2020. We had no idea what was happening at that point. Or to put it better, we did not pay attention to Korea and Italy, so we were willfully ignorant of what was happening. And piling on some blame, our federal biodefenses, which presumably were getting tens of millions in funding, were woefully unprepared. -
COVID health insurance exclusions
Sundancer replied to SectionC3's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Do the US. CA. NC. NJ. FL. Countless others. You're not doing science. You're cherry picking to support your position that vaccines don't work, which is against the great weight of scientific consensus, the studies that you must believe are lies and conspiracies. You've gone off the deep end, but I'm sure there's a community that embraces your growth. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Come on buddy. You didn't complete your work assignment. Do the states I mentioned for late November 2020 vs 2021. Then to the US. Or do those not fit your preconceived narrative? -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
In response to his seeming point that dying WITH Covid is inflating Covid death statistics, that would not explain that deaths are WAY up overall. Not this month, but since March 2020. In fact what we are seeing is that as the vaccines arrived, total deaths almost dipped to pre-pandemic levels, then something (Delta? Seasonality? Vax waning? Unvaxxed + something else? Other?) pushed us back up again but not as bad as last fall. So, your point is kind of a dim-witted and lazy one, yet again. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm -
COVID health insurance exclusions
Sundancer replied to SectionC3's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I LOVE that you downplay the studies but appear eager to ignore counterexamples. Well done "scientist."