Chilly

Which was my point, to say that you'd take him under no circumstances is silly.

No. You apparently forgot that you drafted Harvey with the first round pick when making this depth chart. No. Kelly is still projected to be a late first rounder, and I can't foresee any scenario that he lasts through the 2nd round on. Martellus Bennett is projected to be a second rounder.

I don't think he's going to fall to the 3rd round either, but if he did, I'd take him and not look back.

Byrne, like most people arguing that CB is not one of the top 3 needs, ignores the contribution that Bills' CBs make to run-support

No situation? Not even if he fell to the 3rd round?

Then why do you have the surprised face on this post?

lol, Campbell in the 2nd after taking a DE in the first? Kelly in the 3rd round? Bennett in the 4th ? Sorry, aint gonna happen.

openMINDedness

Is this the norm, or the exception?

Some friends who are caps fans.

Big 12, actually.

How many players from the draft really have an immediate impact each year? I agree that getting rid of JP for something would be beneficial, but he does have SOME value as a backup. If we could trade JP for a 4th, and then trade a 5th or 6th for a veteran backup, I could see such a scenario working. There were two issues with CB play last year. The first, and somewhat less important problem was coverage vs tall receivers. McGee and Greer did everything they could to knock the ball away, but when you got a tall receiver going for a jump ball in the end-zone vs one of our CBs, it was likely (not always) a touchdown. The second, and far bigger worry, is the run support from the CBs. While television is an imperfect viewing mechanism, it seemed like running backs ran all over the defense, including much of the time outside against the corners, who are responsible for run coverage in that area. We need to get stronger from the CB position against the run. Vernon is going to be drafted top 5 in all likelyhood, and thus I doubt that the Bills would give up picks and the money to take him at that selection, though i could be wrong. It is also possible that Rivers goes to another team in the top 10 before the Bills. That being said, I'd rather address one of our other areas of need, with one of the CBs at #11, or Sweed at #11, or possibly a DL or OL if they have one rated higher. I'd like even better to move back a few picks, then take Sweed. Not necessarily. It depends on the players involved, the offense you are playing, and the defensive scheme that you are going up against. It might be a "weak" draft as there are no clear cut forces that will scare defenses, but this "weak" draft is going to be solid overall on the field. There are a lot of good, dependable wideouts in this draft. While none may be barn burners or overly amazing athletically, or even a star in the league, there will be multiple solid players for many, many years at the WR spot in this draft. What you lose with the players later in the draft is the solid all-around game. They may have a specialty - such as being extremely fast, having extremely good hands, being extremely shifty, etc., but none of them have decent skills in all of this. You also lose a lot of consistency and dependability. This is a very weak center draft. Pollack is the only decent one on the board, and even he is not very good. I actually think it would be better to put up with Fowler for a year, let Trent Edwards have some resemblance of consistency, and then replace Fowler next year when there are (hopefully) better players available at the position.

Bill, I come to a different conclusion: that neglecting other positions while continually taking the same position high in the draft will lead to a team's demise. The best football teams in the NFL are well-rounded. For all the emphasis put on the Giants pass rush (which is well deserved), people also neglected to see that they paired this with a pretty damned good group of DBs: Madison, McQuarters, Ross, Knight, Wilson. The Patriots, for example, had Harrison, Hobbs, Samuel, Gay. The Steelers have Polamalu, Townshend, Taylor, Clark. Colts have Sanders, Bethea, Hayden, and Jackson Chargers had McCree, Jammer, Cromartie, and now Weddle. etc. It is less about where you pick the players, as having solid overall drafts that produce multiple players for you, and making sure that your roster is well rounded.

I hope Philadelphia and Washington both somehow find a way to lose.

That would be a decent draft for the Bills, but I friggin love that draft for the Jets :puke: McKelvin isn't a bad pick, Nelson is going to spend some time moving from slot to outside (which is why I'm not a huge fan of him), Kellen Davis is a solid pick, Adibi would fit our scheme at OLB pretty well, but I'm left wondering why we'd take Curtis Johnson after just taking Adibi (both are somewhat tweeners who could play OLB/DE in college).

HBD!

Ah, didn't realize that. I retract my statement.

Its always about how to make the most money with the media (like most businesses)

Right, because McCain is so much better. He's also going to continue running us into the ground.

My guess is that no other team will pick a long in the first round.

To be fair, I said (mostly) because Google is forcing people to write aps for it in Java, and is not allowing access to the low level APIs. It is also keeping some parts closed-source.

Its a (mostly) open source platfomr to allow software developers to create programs for. http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html The real benefit to the end-user will not be in what Google itself does, but what other developers make for the platform.

Android is a platform, not a phone...

Hardly have to do any messing with drivers anymore with the newer versions of ubuntu. Its getting much easier.

That was pretty much my reaction too: "People actually think that they aren't biased?"