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    K J Hamler the new speed threat?

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    Guy has had injury after injury since he got drafted and Broncos have been one of the worst run franchises the last couple years, but not sure why Indy let him go if he’s some kind of hidden gem that just needed to get healthy.  

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    Did we do enough at wide receiver?

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    2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

     

    Hollins has one season two years ago where he caught 57 balls. The next best season is a few with 16 grabs. We lost two receivers who combined for 15 tds on the year. We better hope Coleman can come in and replace Gabe's tds. Kincaid should be good for a few more and Samuel with a legit qb for the first time should put a good amount of tds.   I still think we need to add a vet wr outside like DJ Chark and we can really have an offense that can get into a shootout so we don't have to rely on Allen running so much. 

    We need another vet who was a legit 1 or 2 to be a reliable option for Josh.  They don’t have to hold up the whole season, but you can’t rely on Shakir, Samuel, and a rookie Coleman to all step up their game not to mention injuries.  Hollins is another Sherfield.   If he’s one of your top 3 WR’s for any reason, we are screwed.  See Sherfield in KC playoff game.  I’m for bringing in OBJ to round out the WR room. 

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    Top Remaining Free Agents of Interest

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    13 minutes ago, bearstobills said:

    OBJ is everything this regime stands against.  They have handed this team to Josh.  Keon is his receiver.  Instead of last year, when he was Diggs' quarterback. OBJ brings drama, diva-esque ball demands, locker room entitlement, a declining skill set, and a salary demand outside of their range.  He aint coming.

    There’s an adjustment period for any rookie.  Expecting Coleman to be one of your top 2-3 WR’s early in the season risks throwing the season away.  OBJ has been a good soldier in LA and Baltimore and can carry a heavier load early in the season while Coleman gets acclimated.  

    Top Remaining Free Agents of Interest

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    20 minutes ago, Cash said:

    In order of my preference:

    1. Odell Beckham Jr - His last 2 stops have been highly successful (except for the injuries) as a mercenary receiver.  Dude will be an injury risk for the rest of his career I think, but he can still play.  And it's hard to go wrong with a guy who likely would've won a Super Bowl MVP if he didn't get hurt.  I would have no problem with him mentoring Coleman, also.  This is the only guy worth spending the Tre White money on, IMO.
    2. DJ Chark - I liked him a lot coming into the draft, and he did have some early production in Jacksonville.  Size/speed guy who hasn't fully put it together, but also hasn't played with a QB nearly as good as Allen.
    3. Michael Thomas - His injury history makes Beckham look like Cal Ripken Jr.  I don't think he'll ever play a full season again.  But he's a guy who has been ELITE, and he showed some real flashes of his old self at times last season.  He also disappeared a lot last season, but I'm not sure how much of that was because his relationship with the Saints was completely broken a couple years ago.  On a 1 year deal, could he be both healthy and fully bought in?

     

    Gallup was the only other guy that interested me, and according to this thread he's off the market.  1 year, $3 million is about what I'd offer Chark or Thomas.  Beckham will ask for (and get) significantly more than that.

     

    No matter what, I'll be super interested to see how the Bills spend the June 1st money.  I'll be shocked if they don't sign someone with a decent chunk of it.  But they could split it on maybe 2 Gallup-level signings, or put it all towards a bigger Beckham or Leonard Floyd-style signing, maybe with the help of void years.  I think who they DON'T sign will be just as telling as who they do.

    OBJ makes sense.  His skill set would round out the WR room.  Deep threat that can still soften up the defense.  Potentially 5 guys with 600+ receiving yards next season plus 2 RB’s who are a threat out of backfield.  1 year $7m with some incentives.  

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    Coleman Route Speeds

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    1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

    That's how fast he ran at the combine when everyone else was jogging. He ran himself right out of bounds on that gauntlet drill that everyone keeps linking to. He did it wrong. The whole point is that you are supposed to stay in bounds and tip-toe down the sidelines to show your balance and awareness. He ran 5 yards out of bounds before he figured out where he was on the field

    Yes he might’ve gamed it at the end to get to 20+ mph, but Coleman was at 19mph by the first hash mark, compared to Franklin’s 17mph and McConkey’s 18mph.  

    Draft Analysis - We're All Debi from Depew

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    23 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

     

    I haven't read the book but am familiar with the concept.   

     

    I don't think any individual fan can compete with a pro scouting department.  But I think the idea of a collective group of smart fans competing with a professional scouting department is interesting.  For example, could the fans on this website collectively make better picks than Beane and his staff???   

     

    I went to college 40 years ago and remember little, but I do remember this...  In a psych class, the professor handed out a list of random items and asked us to list the ones we would want with us if we were astronauts faced with an emergency situation in space.  Then we did the same exercise in 6 person groups.  I was cursed to be grouped with the most unscientific, illogical clowns in the class.  Or so I thought.  To my shock, our group list more closely resembled the official NASA list than my personal list.  Amazingly, every group list was better than any individual's list.  Collective intelligence is a remarkable thing.  

     

    But it has limits too - group think, for example.  

     

    So now I'm curious...  Do you think a large mafia group can draft better than Beane and his staff?  

     

     

    This is like the topic asking how many passes you’d complete in an NFL game.  The people who do this for a living have access to medical information, college coaches, college teammates, get to interview and work out the prospects, and have gone through this cycle 10, 20 or even 30 years.  You can’t compare that type of knowledge and access to information to some guy who watches lots of game tape. 

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    This may be Beans best draft ever. I loved every pick

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    14 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

    Good post.alary

     

    I do believe the Bills will sign I r trade for our wr 1 after White's salary hit goes away. 

    In the last 6 weeks, we have gotten significantly younger and/or cheaper at 18 positions on the 53 man roster...  Poyer, Hyde, Sirhan, Dane, Matekevich, Dodson, Floyd, Phillips, Shaq, Settle, Poona, Morse, Bates, Diggs, Gabe, Harty, Sherfield, Murray.  Plus we have an extra 2nd rounder, an extra 4th and potentially another extra 4th and 5th next year.  

    $54m in dead cap and still replacing 18 guys when the only significant question mark on the roster now is WR 1 is GM of the year type stuff. 

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    This may be Beans best draft ever. I loved every pick

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    36 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:

    Be careful, posting positive reviews of 
    management decisions gets uniformly rejected by the elite talent evaluators on this board. Drafting at 28 with no 3rd round pick should at least net you 6 starters and at least a probowl receiver. Full agreement on 3 picks (Coleman, Bishop and the center, the DT and Cornerback should be ST and possible rotational depth if they make the cut and the RB could possibly be a compliment to Cook and Johnson. All in all, Beane did well with what he had to work with. Also got some draft capital for 25.

    This was probably Beane’s most disciplined draft even though it sounds like he was trying to move up for Bishop.  The roster needed to get younger and cheaper.  He really did a nice job there to the point where despite what he’s saying I could see Beane going after an Aiyuk type WR post June 1.  

    First look at Bills 2024 roster

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    If we still had diggs or trade for a Metcalf/Aiyuk after June 1, the outlook looks totally different.  The only question mark would be Von giving us what Floyd did.  

    Coleman/samuel are upgrades over Gabe and Harty/Sherfield.  Van Pran will be better than Morse sooner than later.  Bishop/KC safety are upgrades over over 33 year old Poyer and Hyde.  Got younger at RB and DT.  

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


    I would hope he could get a better deal than the Carolina trade

    I actually think that trade was to buy time to either trade for a vet WR or trade back again from 33. 

    Now that the 49ers got who they wanted, they might be ready to move Aiyuk or deebo.  

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