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Tiberius Spicoli burned through a ton of brain cells in his younger days, and seems to be paying the price now.

Your characterizations on what @sherpa believes or doesn't is best addressed by Sherpa, though I see nothing in his response(s) to reach the conclusion you have reached. My observation is that you're too closed-minded to consider his response rationally, and too determined to jump to the invariably dopey conclusions you reach to learn anything here. It just seems to be who you choose to be.

This is why it's important to keep thinking, learning and reflecting beyond the time you spent in grade school. Based on the totality of your posts, you are more Catholic school kid today than not. Rumor is he got a loan from Jim Biden, who got the money from Joe, who got it from Hunter, who got it from our bestest ally China.

As so often happens in these situations, there is a healthy mix of accusations, grainy video, grainy video revisited, and analysis of varying degrees. To my knowledge, no video of a lady with a “Hi, I’m Roseanne B!” name tag with an officer raining blows upon her.

Exactly!

I have no idea as to the level of her education, but this sounds an awful lot more like mental illness, drug addiction and the fallout from heavy drug use than anything else. One thing these people offered as perpetrators/victims/martyrs/persecuted seem to have in common is a number of very poor life choices along the way that ultimately put them in harms way. Another is that if you change the fact pattern just a bit, they would be martyrs to the other side of the political spectrum.

Did they interview Cole Beasly?

Sadly, if they don't remember the atrocities perpetrated by their government, and the pain and suffering that alining with Hamas (or other extremist factions in the area) brings, nothing will change. Besides, it sure seems like the lessons of hate will not be new to this, or any generation of Gaza or Israel into the foreseeable future. Perhaps the hostages should be released, unconditionally, now?

Makes you wonder—What will those people remember about the slaughter that precipitated Israel’s response? Will they turn against Hamas? Storm the tunnels? Call for peace? Or does their history lesson begin after all that took place?

I gave you too much credit on this one, that's on me. I have to own it. I should have known about your limitations.

I think it’s obvious based on the facts of the 10/7 barbarism—when people are willing to assault/rape/gang rape/shoot/stab murder and behead every person from 1 day to 100 years old, and drag corpses through the street, the end game is annihilation of Israel and very ally it has. It’s also fascinating how far you’ll go to avoid blaming those who committed the crimes and those who support them and seek to shift the blame to Israel. #sad

@Justice Saw this today and think it applies: https://babylonbee.com/news/bernie-sanders-cheerily-greets-trick-or-treaters-before-stealing-their-candy-for-redistribution

“No one is above the law” except those that are.

Sanders is an old school leftist, may/may not have once believed what he preached but now spends his days espousing grievance politics while living the life of the millionaire class he rages about. He’s as full of cr@p as most in DC, but would have made a wonderful mid-level bureaucrat in the old Soviet Union. I understand compassion, but it’s a two way street. In the end, he was standing in a safe, secure place thousands of miles from the danger zone. It took zero moral or political courage to state the obvious: “Return the hostages, now” or to speak to the rage and hatred felt by the Palestinians. Instead, he spoke of death per capita and the need for Israel to stand down, and presumably, negotiate for the release of those taken.

You committed 100% to this costume, and that is excellent!

What a great step forward toward peace it would be if these three women were released immediately, unconditionally, along with the 190+ hostages taken during the massacre on 10/7. Kudos though to CNN for acknowledging these three women might possibly be under duress after witnessing the atrocities on 10/7, and being taken hostage by people sworn to annihilate people like them, and being held against their will for 4 weeks.

One man's calmly is another's circus freak crazy, I guess.

Calmy, by Tibs ™ 😆

You're coming unglued, Tibs. I think you're conflicted. I think you know that the hostages should be returned immediately, no questions asked and Sanders should have said so. I think you think that Hamas releasing them weakens their negotiating position and in the end, you're pro-Palestinian and that includes quiet support for the actions of Hamas. That's not to say I think you're pre-terror, I just think you've rationalized the actions of Hamas and Palestinians as...necessary. I think you're all sorts of turned around, and people like Bernie Sanders gives you cover to proceed with your support of actions you should condemn. What I may/may not be smoking is completely irrelevant to your actions, but damn you really know how to supersize the creep factor on things to smoke!

Of the three parties to this conversation--Sanders, Tibs, and me--the only person who brought up the collective responsibility of all Palestinians was you. Why, I cannot say. Even now, you're fixated on that subject and even refuse to acknowledge the truth and common sense of what I stated: Bernie Sanders should have demanded the immediate and unconditional response of all hostages. The time was not "now", the time commenced on 10/7 and has repeated daily until this very moment. Why are you against the immediate and unconditional release of the hostages? In fact, would you not agree that the innocent citizens of Gaza should be joining the rest of the free world in demanding their immediate release? Some things are not complicated, Tibs.

Your question was silly because I commented on Sanders comments, and that lead you to ask if the children of Gazans were terrorists. "Silly" was me being kind to you, and for that you are welcome. He lectured for 6 minutes. He could have demanded the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, but he didn't, for reasons unknown. Based on his love of cold war Soviet-style government, one can only assume.

You ask really silly questions. Sanders spoke for 6+ minutes and offered platitudes and nothing else. My point originally, which you chose to ignore, was that instead of yammering on about deaths "per capita" (what a creepy thing to say), was simply that the time to release hostages was immediately after they were taken. This old fool spent more time saying nothing about something than you often do--and you're very good at that. He couldn't bring himself to demand an immediate and unconditional release of all the hostages by Hamas. No, instead he lectured Israel about the hazard of being enraged about their innocent men, women and children being butchered. https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/shani-louk-kidnapped-at-israeli-music-festival-found-dead/ I can only only assume that @Tiberius would have suggested that the allies in WW2 stand down and allow the German and Japanese peoples safe space to reflect as they pushed forward with their chosen leaders pursued a reign of terror across the globe.

Thank you…do you know Fergie as well, or is the story he referenced some local legend? That’s my last question, and I don’t want to know more about Fergie, Sherp or you—beyond knowing you hung out with Bruce and Terry at the beach at Stocktons Wing, of course. Just unusual you know the same folk.

I really have no idea how this should all play out, but it seems that beyond the obvious —the time for peace was before the attack and slaughter of Israeli citizens, but perhaps Bernie should recognize there’s been 20+ days to release all the hostages and definitely did not. I’ve been confused by this post. You seem to know this family of which Fergie speaks, who are they?

I believe that was part of it, but mainly I was responding to Tibsy's response to Sherpa. I have noticed the tendency for Tibsy to attempt to engage with Sherpa, thinking he has the drop on him, and Sherpa steamrolling him in reply. In this case, after Sherpa's reply, Tibsy dropped any appearance of having a clue and just went with "Ok", which struck me as quite humorous. Agree on Sherpa, and all I can tell you is I, too, knew someone who had a brother named Anthony. Everyone called him Ant'nee, he was good with numbers. I think he became a bookie.