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Vulcan, climate denier. 🌋

I don’t really think you’re a pot toking hippie, after all how would I know? I just like to end some of my posts with a flourish. You keep talking trade-offs, and I keep saying the same thing. Your trade off is my “Don’t tread on me”. Not literally, perhaps, but most definitely figuratively. As far as abortion rights as a voting citizen, of course it’s your business. As it stands, using Ohio again, a person’s right to choose ends at 21 weeks absent extenuating circumstances. In other words, the government decides from there. Pro choice becomes pro-life…poof…just like that. Maybe you don’t care about abortion rights all the way to delivery, but maybe I do. How else do you make your voice heard than by voting to extend the version of control you favor? As for marijuana, my biggest issue is the conflicting clusterf$ck of rules and regulations guiding same. Still, we hit the point when the state steps in and says you got too much, and then you have problems. End of the day, it’s up to you as to whether you care or not. I simply reject the assertion that it’s unreasonable to hold an opinion and vote one’s beliefs on any pressing matter of the day, whether it directly impacts you or not.

You’ve simply rationalized the way people tend to rationalize these things. Your suggestion that a “trade off” is involved implies there are only two options, and that abortion has no wider societal implications than that of personal choice. A decision to extend health insurance coverage to cover abortion and contraceptive coverage is a cost to all stakeholders in the system, including a male who has no interest in having children or women’s health care, or the lady who choses not to have children, or perhaps cannot. You mentioned the military, and that’s fine though hotly debated as to size, scope and spending. Government goes beyond that by a country mile, including things like pension costs, health care benefits to retirees and things like unfunded liabilities. It occurs to me, often, as folks retire on a 30 years and out basis in NY, that the system doesn’t work if the retirement age for all was 55. In other words, non-beneficiaries are encouraged or required to work until 67+ to help fund who retired 12 years earlier. I’m not against taxation, not against health care and cost, pensions and government employment, but the thought that politicians/people aren’t routinely and regularly knocking on my door to tell me how to live is preposterous. Thus, I share my thoughts through the ballot box on wide-ranging issues of all sorts. That’s America, ya pot toking hippie.

No, you misunderstood. In 2016, my team won, if you’re keeping score. Claims of illegitimate and stolen elections were rampant. Preposterous or not, it worked because people buy that sort of thing. It’s not a question of cheating or not, it’s the political reality that claims of broken, illegitimate or stolen elections are a mainstream talking point. Whomever won in 2020, the losing side was sure to claim the security and integrity of the election was in question. To be fair, really, it started long before 2015 and dem claims, but I was thinking of the more recent history. Claims of hanging chads, Joe McCarthy, and Watergate for different reasons etc come to mind. I hope you’re masking up with that cough of yours, and get your durn booster shot, citizen. Let me know if there are any side effects!

Have you been reading “Modern Military Strategy” by Colonel Klink again? It’s a bit dated.

This is some high level leadership in play. They spend $523,000 for 7 vehicles to run as “a test”? As irresponsible as it would to be 1 without representation and testing by the manufacturer, the magic number is 7? Someone got paid.

Don’t you dare apologize for this! You’re doing the Lord’s work here.

Then there is nothing but upside for you. Onwards.

We’ll put aside the investigation isn’t finished yet, and some feel it’s just ramping up. Be that as it may, do you have problems with all bad faith arguments, or only the ones not made by democrats?

Ah, now I follow. They don’t like Trump. You don’t like Trump. You like that they don’t like Trump, and you’re all courageous but lots of people are not as courageous as them.

😂 I forgot about your default insult about me using words. I should have worked that one in, too. Anyway, have a good night.

I don’t think you’re correct, but let’s assume you are. Suddenly you’re squeamish about politicians alleging something that isn’t true? No, the republican leadership has to see this through. It’s just the way things are done. What’s the harm in all this?

I’m happy to wait as you waffle between rule of law, then oddly flip to the Trump and Biden impeachment, then back to the rule of law. The problem you have now is after doing as I directed earlier, you’re all in a tiz because you’ve wasted precious time not proving that which you claim to be true—-and if you go in search of proof, again, you’re doing my bidding, again. I’m willing to debate your claim, but you gotta put the work in, lad.

These things take time, John. The Mueller Investigation was nearly 2 years in the making in clearing Trump. Kenneth Starr took 4. Let’s see where this goes, and respect the time that it takes to get answers Americans deserve. This is the process we follow politically.

The pattern I noticed is when I push certain buttons, you dance like a drunken monkey. You went from declaring you didn’t need to do anything, to doing a whole lotta something because I pointed it out what you needed to do. Now, if the dichotomy is stark, it should only take a minute or two for you to back up what you originally claimed about the rule of law, and here I am, waiting. I don’t want to make this awkward, but it’s time for you to dance again.

There are lots of things I love about Mrs. Skin, one is that she’s a low maintenance pub/beer and wine woman. On the other, she’s creative, smart, tough, and classy when appropriate. Besides, you keep her name out ya damn mouth! I still don’t understand the declaration about the constitution, and I don’t feel like I’ve attacked you at all, though you attacked Trump a couple posts up. Maybe we just all look alike to you?

Your posting history reveals that you're not much of a deep thinker, and that you struggle once things get beyond insults, memes and emojis. Thanks for the link on the new conservative group though.

Interesting. L Ron posts some mish mash about despising not despising the constitution, which apparently reflects a conversation he had in his head, and you're struggling with my response? No, I am not a MAGA voter, extreme or otherwise. I supported DJT in 2016, and have spoken out on his behalf during the time he was in office. There were things he said or did I didn't support. I won't rehash that illegitimate election garbage that the dems ran, but have strong feelings about the McCarthyesque tactics of the dem party from 2015-2020. I supported Trump v Biden. When he lost the election, Biden became the president regardless of how I felt about him. I spoke out against the 1/6 rioters--get this crazy talk---from 1/6 on. I most definitely believe elections can be stolen or tilted or impacted (as did high ranking dems --and their supporters--- in 2016, and Warren , Klobuchar and others fretted about it in 2019). Absent clear and convincing evidence of a stolen election, I move on. In that case, I moved on, figuring Biden was president until proof to the contrary was presented. I paid attention to the comings/goings there, in the end, no kraken was unleashed. Oh, well. When Trump's home was raided, I opined that it was highly likely that other presidents/high ranking officials did the same, especially in light of the Clinton debacle. I was right about that. Still, I felt Trump was foolish to expose his throat to his enemies, if for no other reason than they were willing to tear the country apart with bogus Russia allegations. That was a tactical error on his part, and that reflects on him. I would prefer Trump not run, and that he not be the candidate for President. Much of that boils down to my distaste for chaos. I don't trust or particularly care for George Con..way. He seems like a complete d*bag to me. I don't know the judge mentioned, and the platitudes offered sound like that to me. When you don't like, and don't trust...where would you go with that? I work and speak with people who disagree with me politically all the time. I listened when my liberal friend told me Spitzer was the real deal (he worked for him), and decided to wait and see. We know how that played out, yet my friend and I remain close and I think he's a smart dude. I do remind him every now and again about his boy though. If to you, that means I'm complicit in the extreme MAGA movement, that's your problem, not mine. I want to be honest--I don't care.

No one said you had to do anything, BillSy. You offered a comment, and I asked you to clarify. I knew you wouldn't, but asked anyways.

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify. What made me think you had tunnel vision was when you said "righties here will mock it because it's not maga enough". Off the top of my head, I have encountered 3 or 4 different versions of conservatism from people who clearly identify as 'rightie" out of the handful that post here. From my perspective only, I wouldn't identify as "maga", didn't call the new group "rhinos" and indicated the plan was "interesting enough". I don't understand the jump from my post to you ruminating about not despising the constitution, I can't see where my post implied or suggested that. If you're upset because you're a Chik fil-A or Arby's guy and I left them out of my franchise analogy, I want you to know I just ran out of time. Btw...remember the lessons of the original L. Ron, don't take yourself so seriously.

Or, perhaps it's better to think of this group as a franchise. See, some folks like your McDonald's because they like a Quarter Pounder with Cheese and the crispy french fries. Some might like Burger King, preferring the Classic Chicken sandwich and Onion rings. Still others might think Wendy's for a Frosty, or maybe Popeye's chicken niblets suits a particular fancy. In fact, there are people who prefer the anit-biotic-free chicken of a Chipolte (they swaddle in comfort and love before the slaughter). Or, put another way...does every political group aligned with your party preference ring your bell with regularity?

That's ok. I'm not 7, and understand that I won't get invited to everyone's birthday party. It's liberating. Which rule of law are you referencing? Be specific, this is your mic drop moment.

Sounds interesting. One of the guys was appointed by W Bush, a guy libs say is a war criminal who never sniffed the inside of a courtroom (like other notable American politickers Clinton, Clinton, Spitzer and the like). The other guy likes to do his personal laundry in the public eye, and his family seems to be a mess. Not for me.

That’s the nature of politics today, Frenx. Started in 2015…Russians and whatnot. Illegitimate elections. 2019…. https://www.warren.senate.gov/oversight/letters/warren-klobuchar-wyden-and-pocan-investigate-vulnerabilities-and-shortcomings-of-election-technology-industry-with-ties-to-private-equity The stage was set if things went south again.

The guy in the video is far from normal. He’s unhinged, unable to control his emotions and rambled on using extremist talking points someone else has fed him. It’s impossible to know what lead him to this point in his life, where he’s trying to intimidate a fellow citizen actively engaging in our election process, once referred to as Barracking the vote. It likely goes back to his upbringing, feelings of insecurity, abandonment or unaddressed sociopathic tendencies. The main tell here is after losing control with the poll worker, he decides he’s got to share his critical message with an uninvolved third party, who looks an awful lot like he wants to get away from him before he completely loses it and goes full Ted Bundy.