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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19
SectionC3 replied to Hedge's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
What about the effect of the virus? What if it doesn’t kill, but simply maims? What if the maiming includes long-term cognitive difficulty, or reduced lung function? Is that acceptable? -
Again, you said nobody was "bubbling." And since nearly nobody (save for perhaps a few people with extreme medical issues) literally lives within a "bubble," I assume that you applied a figurative, not literal, definition of the term. The NBA form of "bubbling" means social isolation and contact only with a defined group of like isolators. So how do you know that no NFL player is doing that? You don't. You made it up. And you've also backed off the "NFL players are responsible for policing each other, even from across a continent" absurdity. Which is good, since even the employer here recognized the asininity of that point.
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1. You made a mistake in your first sentence. You should have said "groundless," "baseless," "entirely contrived," or something like that. 2. You don't know who is and who is not bubbling. You're just speculating. Or making it up. Guys with kids might not be out much. 3. You didn't say within teams earlier. And that's sort of the point. The Bills can police the Bills. Maybe. But they can't fire anyone who doesn't respect social and health norms. Only the employer can do that. And they also have to come into close contact with players on 12 other NFL teams this year, some of which may not self-police and some of which might have a bunch of knuckleheads who think that they're fine if they chew on some hydroxycloroquine each morning with their Flintstones vitamins. The only ones who can police the "other" teams are the owners. And how is "our" team or "my" team kept safe in this scenario? Daily testing. Employer-mandated, stringent safety measures. Nothing less.
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again, you said NO players are bubbling. I pointed our that you have no factual basis for that statement and that you’re talking out of your fear. The burden isn’t on me to disprove your baseless assertion. and youre still wrong on policing. Let me know how a team in orchard park is supposed to self-police a team based in Santa Clara. It’s impossible. And absurd to suggest. It’s the job of the owners to provide daily testing and adequate safety measures.
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I’m it the one who made the statement of fact. That was you. As in, no NFL player is living in a bubble. And, with respect, you’re totally wrong about the policing point. It’s not the job of the employee to police his fellow employee. It’s the employers responsibility. I don’t blame the players one bit for demanding daily testing and workplace protections. Neither should you.
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1. You assumed, without basis in fact, that none of the players has lived in a bubble. I pointed that out. At this point there are probably about 2,500 players under contract, and I suspect that the odds are that at least one of them has practiced safe quarantining habits akin to bubble living. In any event, there is no reason to assume that none of them has lived that way for the purpose of protecting self/immediate family/loved one. 2. There is a difference between "can't" and "won't." The concern probably is greatest with respect to the players who "won't" abide by social distancing/masking/isolation rules, which, in the context of a contact sport that requires participation at least four days per week, threatens those who follow the "rules." To this end Lorenzo Alexander's point is a good one. The league should test every day. It's the only way to protect all players from the ones who decide to hit the bar or the beach on off night and come to work a few days before limited testing would be conducted.
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How do you know that none of them has been living in a bubble? And unfortunately for some of them, they play a contact sport and might literally contact someone who has refused to live in the bubble. It's the factors beyond the control of the player that are at issue here. For that reason I completely agree with the players who support daily testing, not necessarily for themselves, but for the "other" players with whom they may come into contact.
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Hoax. That’s you. And you’re the intellectual standard bearer of the alt wrong. Sad! Nobody, to my knowledge. But perhaps we can refocus from imaginary boogeymen to idiots who don’t support the idea of wearing masks to help reopen our economy. Like Brian Kemp. And Donald Trump.
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BYU should put this on the front page of one of its brochures. Big surprise that a bunch of religious cultists would be part of a political cult.
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Next time I run into Larry Hogan, the author of that piece and the Republican Governor of Maryland, I’ll make sure to ask him.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/07/16/larry-hogan-trump-coronavirus/?arc404=true Virus, 1. Trump, 0.
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Sure. Of course tech isn’t purely pandemic-driven. But that is a part of it. Look at Amazon’s meteoric growth. NFLX, same deal. Google probably as well, although I don’t pay as much attention to it. And the rest of the market is in bad shape. Take out big tech and it’s flat over an extended period. That’s beyond debate.
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My portfolio says I do. Let’s hear your advice, big boy.
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Not terribly well, minus AMZN, AAPL, GOOG, and FB. https://wolfstreet.com/2020/07/11/wild-ride-to-nowhere-appl-msft-amzn-goog-and-fb-soar-to-new-high-rest-of-the-stock-market-is-a-dud-has-been-for-years/ Sure there’s hyperbole there. There’s more winners then the basket that I mentioned. But what’s driving growth right now? Big tech. Big time. Bottom line.
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Sure. But it’s been amplified perhaps exponentially in the last six months.
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Shoulda been yesterday. It was National Fry Day. Mc Donalds gave away free medium fries. Could have had a little more value on the lunch. But maybe McD’s will give away hamberders on Wednesday.
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Me too. Let him know if you talk to him.
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Maybe, maybe not. You might have timed the departure well. Who knows about jumping back in. It depends on where you are in life, what your goals are, what your needs are, etc. The wealth transfer prompted by the pandemic is ridiculous, though. I’ve made absurd money in the last four months (and given some back in the last couple of days, to be sure) while other people are scrounging for bucks to pay for groceries. And others who plodded along in an S&P index or large cap index are probably up a bit, but probably not up enough to justify the risk they’ve taken over the past couple of months. In any event, it’s not right. No matter what happens in November this disconnect between the true economy, the market, the haves, and the have-nots is something we have to address. Everyone who reads this (unless you’re Terry Pegula or part of the Bills brass) is on the wrong end of what’s going on here. We’re all working for peanuts, just in varying degrees, and the last four months have just made it worse.
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Different from the flag issue. And he still double-talks the issue (see Bubba Wallace comments).
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2015 agrees with you. 2020 says that Trump will not condemn the flag. So 2020 says hoax.
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At least those people would be earning money. Also, please accept this gentle reminder not to spend next month’s welfare check on MAGA/KAG gear. Perhaps instead you could use such funds to purchase a face mask. Thank you.
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Speaking of traitors, do you condemn Trump’s refusal to speak against the Confederate flag?