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I dont have a problem with them doing this, as Ive said several times in this thread. I have a problem with people trying to hide the fact like PJ was doing. I just want people to be !@#$ing honest instead of spinning whats in front of their faces to meet their own needs. They are running an incentive offer. They are trying to promote their product offering, one of the main ones being abortions. So its not making someone a "nutjob" to argue this incentive is making abortions easier to get. Just as it doesnt make someone a "nutjob" for arguing that the midnight regulation is making abortions harder to get. I am against abortions, but also think they should be legal and available.

1. The action fund link 2. The main nav link 3. The "midnight regulation" link 4. The picture of the woman holding the sign 5. The words "reproductive health" in the top banner. Im not going to comment on how they should run their site or promote this service, as that is not what this discussion is about. I dont care if they run a "Free Abortions Sweeptakes!" All Im doing is stating that this is ONE OF their main service offerings/causes and they promote it as such.

Thats not entirely true. I took a quick gander at their site and abortion is front and center. If its not their main "product", then its pretty damn close to the top of the list.

Youre a lousy landscaper. Most do snow removal in the winter. Personally, I dont care what PP does. Im totally and morally opposed to abortions and think they are murder. But I ALSO think they should be legal and avialable to those whose moral compass is different than mine. Live and let live...what a concept. But y'all in MY territory now. When a company runs a general promotion and offers general, untargeted incentives like gift cards, they arent promoting their LEAST well know product, they are promoting their MOST well known product. So ALL IM SAYING...its not a stretch for one to accuse PP of "promoting abortions" by offering this incentive. NOW...if Im way off base and PP is well known for things OTHERS than abortions, then I stand corrected.

One of Bush's main reasons for invading iraq was to stop terrorism in the United States. Since 9/11 its been pretty quiet here. So you just validated the Iraq War.

Speak Engrish, please.

Good point! It worked really well to prosecute the criminals who purported the 1993 bombings of a certain NYC building. I think Ill go to Windows on the World for lunch today.

Call me dense, but if an organization's main source of income is from a particular product and they are offering gift cards, then isnt it a safe assumption that they are promoting sale of this product? You think Shell oil is offering gift cards so people buy more washer fluid?

Come on. Telling MG to book travel on a White Star Line cruise ship in April is out of bounds? Geez.

Its a damned shame you survived 9/11. Damned shame.

Funny, I feel the same way about Quakers. IMO, thinking the US can lay down its weapons, disband its military and live in peace and free from attack is right up there with the world was created in seven days on the "dangerous idiocy" scale.

No, BAD call. Becuase Im not defending creationism, nor am I advocate FOR this museum. Im pointing out how yet again, we have a "tolerant" liberal bashing other's opinions and at the same time, having the audacity to accuse OTHERS of "hate."

You have the audacity to call other's views and opinions about the origin of the Universe "stupid" and a few sentences later accuse OTHERS of stirring hate? I think you just proved the OP's core point.

"Whatever 'truculent' means, if its good I'm that."

Yup..."Killdrive" and "Fat Wade." They havent had any success since us all knowing fans ran them out of Buffalo.

Im not mud. Im a child of the most high God. And I love being one. Happy Holidays!

Ugh. Well, I got dragged into the pig sty. I guess I cant complain I got muddy.

Whether or not there was indeed a "pagan festival" years and decades and centuries ago that led to the Holiday being celebrated at this specific time of year, the fact is that the reason this Holiday is celebrated and the purpose of the season is to commemorate the birth of Christ. Try not to be a moron. Just give it a shot.

Funny, a few posts up, you said it was a "great point." Seriously...do you act this way intentionally?

Funny how they want the benefits of the day and the season. you BETTER invite all these folks to the parties, the parades, givem them the day off, all that stuff. But show them the TRUE REASON for all those good things...show them a few statues of a man, woman and a baby in a straw hut and all of a sudden, then get a little squirmy, like vampires exposed to the sun. I pity them.

The two resident idiots COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT. Shocker.

By AA I meant African American, not Affirmative Action. I thought a bit about this over some dim sum tonight. I think for me it comes down to this....the CONCEPT of "diversity" is a very noble worthwhile endeavor. However, IMHO, the way its being carried out is completely !@#$ed up.

Pretty much every major corporation forces them on their vendors. I know...Im subject to them. I dont hire at least 10% of my suppliers for what my client calls a "diverse vendor", Im automatically removed from their preferred vendor pool. We are on an NFL board, right? Ever hear of the NFL "minority coaching policy."? We see time and time again an analysis of "ratios" and the percentage of diversity in a given field and if it doesnt meet some imaginary number, than whammo....that business.group.institution is criticises for their "lack of diversity." And those same quotas havwe also compromised the talent pool just so the "numbers are met." which is what makes AA programs and forced diversity so evil in my book. Hire on merit. Period. Thats MY "IMO." The example I gave above...my client? Run by ultra rich WHITE MEN. Many companies and other organizations running the diversity programs and enforcing them are also run by these same folks. Voluntarily. Thats right. Lets keep class/race warfare alive and well for some kind of half assed game of "catch up" or to "get revenge." Whats next? Reparations? Are there even minorities in some of these locations and industries that can even FILL those jobs? To spend money on these holiday displays? Or do you plan to "force" minorities to take them? Maybe bus them in? How about this? You hire the best vendor or candidate based on merit. You spend money on the holiday displays based on what kind of people live in your area. And....I just hired an AA assistant. Becuase she was the best qualified. Imagine that.

Mr. Coli can speak for himself but he seems to be pushing that old far left nonsense that any kind of conformation to authority.... in this case, reciting a Pledge to our Nation's Flag, is automatically "bad." Just like that other line of BS, that any kind of "non-diverse" enviornment is also automatically "bad."