SilverNRed

Uh-huh. I hardly think talking about major plot changes from book to movie that don't make sense counts as "bashing" but whatever. I haven't talked about the film one bit, except that I don't like that major plot change because I don't see how the ending could work or be as effective. Then again, I guess this is the trouble I'm asking for when I actually read books and understand how the internet works.

We're using yellow text on the white background because we're discussing the plot (and ending) in detail so if anyone who clicks on this thread who hasn't seen the movie or read the book won't be spoiled. You're supposed to highlight it to read it.

I don't think you need to go to "J-school" for anything, but that's another topic.... This is a different situation than Watergate and in order to take down Karl Rove they'd have to reveal him as their source. W&B are 'heroes' for taking down Nixon, not upholding their principles. There's enough foam-at-the-mouth hatred of KR on the left that whoever takes him out is going to be in good shape no matter what.

From the link I provided, it seems she's currently partying with Robert deNiro.

Yeah, right, be the reporter who takes down Karl Rove and you won't have to worry about getting new leads. Woodward and Bernstein are still living off their Watergate fame. As for "Karl Rove f-d America!" - sure, why not? If he did it, it's indefensible. No one actually admires Karl Rove. You liberals might hate him and gnash your teeth at the very thought of him, but he's not as important to people on the conservative side. He's a big blip on your radar and just a political strategist to us. (Reminds me of Walter Cronkite telling Larry King he thought Bin Ladin's pre-election recording may have been arranged for by Karl Rove. Makes perfect sense to a liberal idiot, and exactly no one else.) Unfortunately, there's no evidence that it was Rove except for Larry O'Donnell foaming at the mouth and the fact that Rove was interviewed by one of the reporters in all the hot water right now. Interviewed - which most likely means it was the reporter who requested the dialogue. And anyway, no one died. Valerie Plame still seems to be living the good life.

Exactly why I don't even try to become a fan.

Continuing the yellow text storm.... If they have the technology to "beam" the pilots down into tripods, why do they even have tripods? Wouldn't there be an even more mind-blowing way of taking over our planet than with buried tripods? Why not just beam cool, newer machines down along with the pilots whenever it does become necessary to take over? And, yeah, why bury the weapons there at all? Is there a storage problem on Mars? You're right. The whole thing is really, really stupid. Now, if this were a different movie and it was about 'aliens' coming out of the ground to take over the earth, that would be pretty awesome! You just can't use the germs ending....

Oh Jesus.... Actually I think I know that woman. She lives in Austin, TX, along with 30,000 clones of herself. The job is to read and interpret laws that are already written. IT'S READING! Any literate person with common sense could do this, and yet it turns into a political sh-- storm. And now we have to put up with people in birkenstocks and their stupid opinions.

"....there are people dy-ing, so let's have a kick-ass concert......"

Still haven't seen the movie but help me out - OK, if the tripods were here before man (which seems to be the big break from the book - where giant cylinders crash into the earth and slowly begin to unscrew their tops.....), doesn't that mean the classic germs ending won't work? If they've been here for "a million years" or whatever, they'd have the immunity to the germs or at least plenty of time to invent Martian Nyquil or whatever.

Somehow I still think you'll be full of hot air (sorry for the awful pun). Glad you're feeling better. While you were gone, nozzlenut updated her avatar and sig with yellow text that you can't read. My guess is it says "KARL ROVE!! NEOCON!!! FLIGHTSUIT!!!!!" Other than that, same stupid crap. Over on TSW, Stojan thinks we can save Africa by sending money and having concerts.

Seriously, you would think people would be able to wipe the drool off their mouths and remember that one if for no other reason than Hollywood made a movie about it a couple years ago. Save Africa? We tried, but it turned out it might actually be a pretty tough thing to do so we backed off. Apparently now that's what we're supposed to do in Iraq (within 2 years, according to Stojan) because it turns out turning a really horrific part of the world into someplace where people can reasonably live is hard work and can't be done with rock concerts. Oh well, at least a lot of celebrities got on camera.

No offense, but you have to be !@#$ing kidding me. I can't believe after taking such a thorough whooping on the "NASA is worthless/throw money at Africa" slant, you played the "Bush isn't doing enough anyway" card. How do you knock the Iraq war and at the same time say Bush isn't doing enough to save Africa? You do realize that the type of intervention it would take to start turning things around in Africa is exactly the type of thing we did in Iraq, right? We can't send money, we'd have to go over there. Rock concerts won't change a continent like Africa. And part of the reasoning for the war in Iraq was ALWAYS about overthrowing a totalitarian regime. We had jets patrolling no-fly zones for over a decade to prevent Saddam doing a little extra "ethnic cleansing" in the Kurdish and Shia areas and getting shot at on a daily basis for their trouble. It's estimated that 50,000 Iraqi children died every year from malnutrition and lack of medicine while Saddam was building palaces using the UN's Oil for Food money (amazing what a little bribery can get you with the international community). Bush who you mocked as a "humanitarian" is the mother!@#$ing humanitarian, and not the retards at the UN or the rock stars who hate him. According to http://www.iraqbodycount.net/, the intervention in Iraq has cost a max of 25,000 Iraqi lives since March 2003. Yeah, it saved lives. Imagine that. As for the purple fingers you mocked, the hope was that enough people in the countries surrounding Iraq would start wondering why they didn't get to vote for whoever they wanted; why they don't have democracy. Well, they were wondering in Lebanon anyway. Whatever, though, I guess complex thoughts don't fit into the A.D.D. mentality. It's better to just have the rich rock stars demand that more U.S. taxpayer money is paid off to charities and international organizations that we already know can't get the job done in Africa because of the governments there.

If anyone ever lets Ashlee Simpson sing TSSB, I'll be offended. No, wait, if anyone ever lets Ashlee Simpson sing again, I'll be offended.

Forget Bono, the best part of Live 8 was Madonna singing about world poverty with a personalized diamond-coated 'M' around her neck.

Somehow I think that if we gave all of NASA's money to the governments in Africa, the problem wouldn't get solved. And in a roundabout way, I think NASA crashing into a comet will probably end up doing more for Africa than the people who sat on the couch this weekend watching Live8 (or the ones complaining about Africa on TSW).

Washington Post If you've seen the Nats hats in person (which you should since they're everywhere), you'd know they're pretty nice no matter which one you're looking at.

Holla!

Oh Snap!

Rove is the Boogey-Man. He has been and will be blamed for everything that liberals don't like (Ted Rall is currently comparing him to Osama Bin Laden). He's also a guy who knows how to win and get things done and since this "outing" didn't help him in any way, I have a tough time seeing why he would be the mystery man responsible. And there's no way reporters would go to jail to protect him. Karl Rove outing undercover CIA operatives because he doesn't like them is the Watergate sequel the mainstream media has been trying to make since, uh, Watergate. EDIT: Here's Valerie Plame. Link Probably more evidence that Darth Rove isn't the person who tried to destroy these people - they're still in pretty good shape. Let's also keep in mind that Lawrence O'Donnell is the person pushing this story. And he's basically a retard, so who cares?

It'd be nice if we weren't hoping (more like bracing) for nominees who will "make" policy rather than just interpret the laws on the books. Ho hum...

The ending to Jurassic Park III is the best example of rushed/whatever ending that I can think of. I'll check out WOTW in the next couple weeks.

I would've said that but I loved the scene with Palpatine and Anakin at the opera (I guess that's what it was) where he's telling him about the history of the Sith. Where was dialogue like that two movies ago?

I think the fact that he's named after baseball equipment makes him more qualified to run. Baseball is America's pasttime.