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17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Based on the Bengals scoring 17 on O today?
Amazing how people make every team out to be some offensive juggernaut
16 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:would be nice to score 40, but Cinci offense scored all of 17 today AT HOME
You guys know that the Ravens have a Top 2 defense right? Not to mention they played the Bengals 3 times this season.
Are you suggesting that the Bills D is as good or better than the ravens?-
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5 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:
Unfortunately I think this game more than any game is where we are going to miss Von. You get pressure on Burrow and he looks average.
Burrow went to the SB in his first full year being the most sacked QB in the history of football and still led the PFF QB grades.
I assume any QB is a bit worse with defenders in their face but Joe, Pat and Josh can all 3 handle it pretty well and none are average.-
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2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:
I agree, I can't stand the fact QBs are punished for taking shots. I mean Trevor Lawrence only has a game this week because Herbert is incapable of taking shots.
In a perfect world they would only do it when needed, but that's not the way it goes.
The Ravens play an extended 2 high vs the Bengals every games since Burrow went for 525 yards. He is perfectly fine utilizing the short game. If the Bengals get a lead do not be too concerned as Zac will go to conservative mode, like he did tonight with 9 minutes left in the 4th. He keeps opponents in the game sometimes.-
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3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
Cool thread
Biased Cincy fan on a Bills fan site. Why are you here?
I am responding to a bunch of unread comments directed at me. Why do you care? Are you Mr. Message Board Policeman? I have not broken any rules or been disrespectful. You can't handle a different point of view, take your purse and block me.
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On 1/6/2023 at 7:40 AM, FrenchConnection said:
How did I not watch either game? I live in Cincinnati. It’s the game on my TV every week. Your arrogance is exactly the point of my post that you quoted. The entire city of Cincinnati feels like the regular season and playoffs is an insignificant preamble to a return trip to the SB where they can right a wrong. They’ve already asked for the Wednesday after the SB off from their job at Kroger or P&G to go to the parade.It’s a confidence that I wish Bills fans had. We, on the other hand, dissect double-digit wins to the point where they feel like losses and want to fire our coach. Gotta run. I have to take my car into Fairfield VW to see if they’ll finally fix it.
My arrogance? Lol, everyone on this site treats the Bengals like 2nd class citizens as if last year was a fluke and luck.... I'm sorry you are so fanboyed that you couldn't see the Bengals offensive power vs the Bills defense. No doubt Josh would get his, but with the Bills not having over half their secondary the Bengals D would most likely get a couple more stops, a couple more FGs instead of TDs.
You guys now have the home game and the neutral championship game, you almost have to go to the SB with all that.On 1/6/2023 at 8:37 AM, Casey D said:If Bengals can't beat a Jackson-less Ravens team, your assumption that they would have beat Buffalo is a joke.
Why do you think we cant beat the Ravens? And I can easily tell you how Buffalo was most likely beat on Monday.
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1 minute ago, sirebors said:
Maybe you didn't see the Chiefs won last night. The Bengals can't and couldn't secure the 1 seed. Their best case scenario is still the 2 seed. And there was absolutely no guarantee they would have beaten the Bills anyway. This is like crying over spilt milk. Get over it.
When the league changes a rule on the books right before the playoffs that is not crying over spilled milk. Every person in the world watching that game, including many on this site, saw the Bengals winning that game, possibly big. Already depleted secondary, lost 2 more guys, and Tre can not cover Chase, WTH are they thinking?
But Cincy has proven that they can win on the road, we will see. Bills got their 2nd round home game and neutral championship game, almost have to go to the SB with these circumstances.-
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On 1/6/2023 at 6:45 AM, UKBillFan said:
Remind me what happened to the Bengals against the Pats after they looked hot in the first half?On 1/6/2023 at 6:59 AM, UKBillFan said:
The Bills are still better than the Pats, and they came within a stupid fumble of taking the lead against the Bengals with very little time left, albeit I appreciate playing away from the Jungle is different for them.The probability is that the Bengals would have beaten the Bills but no one can say that for certain.
You keep going on about the Bengals-Patriots game, in which you obviously did not watch. The Bengals had everything go wrong that could and the Pats still only had ONE scoring drive. 2 INT's on the WRs, fumble, missed FG, Missed XP, TD called back, fumble TD called back, dropped bomb, 2 dropped TD passes, Pat's scored on pick 6 screw up and tipped Hail Mary.
The Bengals sure didnt seem like they were taking the Bills lightly. But keep thinking the Bills will destroy the Bengals, you may end up like a whole bunch of Chiefs fans. Lose to the Patriots tomorrow I'll be here to say hi to you personally.2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:They had a small chance at the #1 seed : I believe it was in the 15% range even if they had won on Monday night. They still would have needed a KC loss. So they had a chance at 2 , but the Bills had a chance at #1 on their own if they won their games. The MNF game was cancelled : it officially never happened. A potential BUF / CIN playoff matchup wouldn’t be on a neutral field as the teams played the same amount of games and had different records. KC made out the best getting the bye. The neutral field compensates for some of the lost opportunity.
The Bengals were taking the Bills chance at a #1 seed and would have the #2 seed. But Bills get the #2 and the Bills get a championship game on a neutral field. How you do you not go to the Super Bowl?
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McDermott gifted you guys the #2 seed and if you beat the Bengals, an AFC Championship at a neutral site. That's pretty amazing.....
So what actually transpired? Per multiple sources who requested anonymity given the sensitive nature of the situation, Bengals players were informed by a member of the officiating crew that the game against the Bills would resume in 10 minutes.
As one source explained it, Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow began throwing on the sideline after the Bengals noticed that Bills receiver Stefon Diggs was trying to get his teammates appropriately motivated to continue the game.
As the Bengals prepared to continue to play, it eventually became obvious that would not happen. At least one player heard Bills coach Sean McDermott say that the Bills would not continue, even if it meant forfeiting the game.
The Bengals were willing to accommodate the Bills. One player heard Bengals coach Zac Taylor offer to resume the game on Tuesday. Bengals players generally accepted the prospect of a one-day delay.
But then the Bills left Cincinnati. Multiple Bengals players were confused by that development as it occurred. On one hand, they were sensitive to the situation involving Damar Hamlin. On the other hand, they fully realized the stakes of the game. They wanted to get it played.
Bengals players were in the dark all week about the status of the game. They first heard that the game would be cancelled when the league announced it on Thursday night. Before that, they didn’t know whether they’d play the Ravens on Sunday or the Bills. Some thought they possibly would play the Bills on Thursday night.
For the Bengals, it’s a touchy subject. They understand that a serious health condition occurred. But they also believe that they have been given a raw deal by the league, both by canceling a game they wanted to play and by changing the rules regarding playoff seeding. The Bengals could have secured the No. 1 or No. 2 by beating the Bills. Now, their best-case scenario is No. 2, if they beat the Ravens and if the Bills lose to the Patriots.
Absolutely amazing that the league would change a rule on the books right before the playoffs....
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/07/on-monday-night-bengals-were-told-game-will-resume-in-10-minutes/ -
5 minutes ago, akm0404 said:
I do not agree with your framing of this. If the scenario happens where you lose to the Ravens this week and the other results break such that the Ravens are slotted exactly into the 6 seed, you then have a 50% chance of hosting the game - you do not lose it outright. So you only lose that home game in the unlikely (but not impossible) scenario where: You lose to the Ravens, the Chargers lose to the Broncos, and you lose the coin flip. Current implied odds of this happening are 26.18% (Lose to Ravens) * 57.11% (Broncos beat Chargers) * 50% (Lose coin toss) = 7.47%.
So essentially, there is a very, very small chance that you end up playing in Baltimore as the #3 seed (less than 1 in 10 chance), and you control your own destiny to prevent that adverse impact.
In the scenario where the Bills/Bengals game was not suspended, you'd have maybe a 40% chance of losing that and a 26.18% chance of losing to the Ravens and then 100% of the time going on the road as the probable #5 seed - something that may have happened around 10.4% of the time (the same 1 in 10 or so chance of getting shafted with a road game against Baltimore).
But, all that said I am not disagreeing with your basic premise that voiding the game hurt your team more than the Bills (and CERTAINLY more than the Chiefs). You gave up all of your (small but not zero) equity to get the #1 seed, AND have a 10% or so chance of winning the division and playing Baltimore on the road. In return you "benefit" by no longer having the scenario where 10% of the time you went lose/lose if the Bills/Bengals game continued and fell to the 5 seed.
In contrast, the Bills gave up only a portion of their #1 seed equity (coming back to beat the Bengals and then beating the Patriots - 33.2% probability or so versus now needing a win vs. the Patriots and a Chiefs loss, a 15.5% or so chance). So, the Bills lost around a 17% chance at the #1 seed.
The Chiefs meanwhile GAINED the entirety of the Bengals #1 seed equity, a portion of the Bills #1 seed equity (raising them to a >85% chance at the bye), and only conceded a neutral site AFC Championship game in certain scenarios, most likely Chiefs vs. Bills.
All that is a thought exercise in probability and I still contend that its mostly academic as you need to beat all of the good teams to win the Super Bowl and it doesn't end up making that big of a difference in the end. Also, some kid almost died and this is just a some sportsball games, so we should probably care less.
Cheers!
Good stuff. Hopefully our team uses this as more motivation. The lack of any respect from the league whatsoever is frustrating.-
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6 minutes ago, Process said:
The Bengals should handle the ravens easily. And if so none of this will matter.
We had just as much chance at the #1 seed as much as the Bills do now. We also controlled our own destiny for the #2 seed, we now need you guys to lose.
It is not about "just win the games", it is the total ***** sandwich they rammed down the Bengals throats while gifting KC the #1 seed.
I will say that the Bengals have their entire team in tact from last years playoff run on the road, with the exception of better olinemen - I believe we will be ok and I'd bet we are the last team the Chiefs want to see.-
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Just now, Lothar said:
I do feel for the Bengals (and agree they're getting the worst of it) but I think you are way over-playing what would have happened in the Bills game. I still think it was 50-50 because of Buffalo's propensity all season to play a crappy first quarter on defense.
I would still hope that if the two teams meet, we'd play in a neutral site. I'm hoping that's one of the options on the table.
I'm not over playing it, I'm a Bengals fan brother. LOL. I'm sure you saw it differently, but I am not dumb, I know Josh and Diggs could have come back at any time. I actually think we deserve the chance to bring you back to the Jungle....-
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3 minutes ago, akm0404 said:
Absolutely - my point was that you have to balance the scenarios that help you with those that hurt you. Not suggesting there aren't some of both, but you can't solely claim that you lost your multi-leg parlay shot at the #1 seed and discount that you also negated the multi-leg parlay that loses you the division.
The division means nothing if the Ravens have a coin toss opportunity to play the first playoff game at home...? We lose the only benefit the division title offers, in fact we are more shafted as we could lose home field and have the #1's schedule next season... lol
3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:You also lost the chance at 1st seed as if you beat the Bills and Ravens you'd be 13-4, if Chiefs lost to the Raiders they'd be 13-4 and if the Bills beat the Pats they'd be 13-4. 3 way tie went to the Bengals.
I keep saying it but im so damn mad that they are going to ham fist the solution for this problem.
Correct, had we beat you guys and LV beat the Chiefs we had the #1 seed. Even without LV winning we hd the #2 seed winning the last 2. We lost every chance to control our own destiny for the top 2 seeds. I'm not sure any other team was shafted as much as the Bengals?
2 minutes ago, NickelCity said:I will say that "#F***TheBills" was disappointing. But we're all human, I get it.
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
WTH did I just read?
I can't deny that the NFL proposal of how to handle the playoffs after the "no contest" game is unfair to the Bengals in aspects. That was going to happen. No way to make it fair to all parties that I could conceptualize
But as far as telling someone the Bengals didn't "own the Bucs or Patriots" - when my team is losing 17-3 at the half as the Bengals were to the Bucs, I don't feel that they're "owning" the opponent, and I'd actually be very surprised if you felt that way in the moment. You turned it around in the 3Q, never looked back, and got the W. Very creditable.
The Bills have had also had a couple wins this season where we went into halftime down and came back. So "running through the Bills" on the first two drives doesn't show you'd win, just as being down at the half to TB didn't show you'd lose.
Again you didnt watch either game. I have seen the Bills down but in total control of the game - the Bears game was way closer than it should have been going int other second half but there was never any doubt. We had a dozen miscues vs the Pats and put ourself in a bad situation. Bucs were tipping passes and runners were tripped by the white line monster in the 1st half but we never got the feeling oh no... until the very end of the Pats game. -
1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:
You guys are getting short end of stick. So could the Bills be as they controlled their own path to the 1 seed. I feel for you but there is no perfect solution there was always going to be multiple teams getting the short end of it.
As for your comment about "their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense" ... so did just about every team the Bills played in the first quarter this year. It means nothing. The Bills offense ran through your defense as well. It means nothing. There is no way to know who would have won that game.
Our D played predictable as well, we have a great redzone defense - we are the epitome of bend dont break. But you guys ran us better than most to start the game.
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5 minutes ago, akm0404 said:
You guys lost the ability to lose both of your last two and lose your division. The Bills lost the chance to win their last two and get the #1 seed and the goodies that come with that. The Ravens lost the chance for the Bengals to lose to the Bills and have a chance to beat them for the AFCN crown.
The Chiefs lost...well I'm not exactly sure but it must be something right?!
But, at least the Bengals and the Bills control a bit of their own destiny and winning this week secures clear advantages in the playoff seeding.
Either way, to win the AFC Championship, someone is going to have to run the gauntlet and defeat two out of three of the Bills/Bengals/Chiefs (most likely). This isn't the NFC where you can finesse your way with advantageous matchups, it's going to be brutal.
Umm, we also lost the ability to WIN both games too. This is the problem we are having with this solution, it seems to have been created to fit the scenario that the Bengals would have lost to the Bills and thus we were given these stipulations.
1 minute ago, NickelCity said:Yeah I got that sense reading your board, lol. It's tough to know. Our MO this year is to look like absolute horseshit on defense in the first quarter then lock it down. We made the Bears look dynamite in the first drive last week. I think the game was a toss up, and certainly not the beatdown you may have expected.
I am pissed about the Chiefs.
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6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
They scored a TD on the opening drive and had gotten exactly one 1st down on the 2nd drive. The Bills defense always looks soft early.
To me it looked like a game that was going to come down to the wire. Both offenses moved the ball at will on the first drive, one finished with 7 one finished with 3. There's nothing you could possibly project about the rest of that game based on that early result. The NFL is too volatile to make projections after one half let alone two drives.
5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:You weren't up by 4 scores man. You were up by 4 points. Tampa started out hot too 17-3 and it looked like you couldn't stop them. this is why they play the full 60 minutes.
I was pretty clear in an earlier post that this was the view of our fans when the game ended, no doubt the Bills could have come back. The point is, we were given every scenario that could happen if we did lose the game, and we surely wasn't looking like it at the time. It's just not a fair solution.
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Just now, Punch said:
The Bengals were “handed” the North Division and higher seeding just like the Chiefs were “handed” the 1 seed. If you’re so certain the Bengals won’t lose to Baltimore then why does it matter where the theoretical Wild Card game would be held?
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Just now, Motorin' said:
Cause you're the team that has 4 losses. It's not perfect. And if for some reason you lose to the Ravens I think that game should be on a neutral site.
The Ravens have 6 losses, fewer wins, in more home games and more games total. Dont try to make this look fair in any way. Bills were screwed some as well, but we were shafted.
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Just now, NickelCity said:
I'd be miffed if I were the Bengals too, but a bunch of teams feel that way. Even some here. You have a good claim to the shortest straw for sure. I will say I'm amused by the sentiment that appeared to be implied on the Bengals forum that the NFL has favoritism for the Bills. That'd be a first, lol.
They should have flipped a damn coin.
We are more pissed about the Chiefs, but the way the game was going many felt like we were in the drivers seat for our game. Of course Josh and this team could have come back but your defense wasn't looking good and losing players, we thought we had a great chance. -
Just now, Punch said:
The Ravens are clearly disadvantaged in this proposal as are the Bengals, albeit in different ways. It stinks.
Actually not. The Ravens needed us to lose to you guys AND them in week in 18. Now all they need to do is beat us this Sunday and a coin flip could give them home field. It is a joke.
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1 minute ago, Motorin' said:
I don't think there's anyway you lose to the Ravens.
Probably but not but how are we the ones getting the absolute worst of this and KC getting the absolute best? We both beat them. We now have zero chance at the #1, we no longer control our destiny for the #2, and even with winning the division our 1st playoff game location could be decided by a coin flip... WTF
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27 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:
That's the other thing. They are instituting this decision and giving the Bengals the division championship before the game Sunday? If Ravens happen to pull off an upset it is going to be a shitshow.
No it wont the Ravens will get a chance at home field the next week. That is the shitshow. They did not have control of their destiny as to the AFCN crown.
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45 minutes ago, Punch said:
Cincinnati and Baltimore is only a coin flip wrt the Wild Card Round. Baltimore was unfairly deprived at a shot for the AFC North with the Bills-Bengals cancellation.
Who cares about not winning the crown if you get to play the first playoff game at home?
We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5
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Bengals are not just down 3 players...
Right Tackle is a backup that played Guard horribly all last season.
Right Guard is a new player waiver pickup from Texans.
Left Tackle has played Guard the last 2 years was by far the worst blocker and a 3rd teamer.
Left Guard is a 4th Round Rookie.
Bills should win this game easily.