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    Official: (Bengals) Game will not be resumed this week UPDATE: OFFICIALLY CANCELLED

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    7 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

     

    They could if they didn't cancel the bengals/bills game and the Bills won. So by announcing the game as canceled, Baltimore has 0% chance to win their division. So yes, that is the complaint.

     

    If this were the Bills and the Pats or Dolphins, we would be unimaginably pissed.


    Ravens can still get the 1st playoff game at home vs the Bengals even with the division title.  This is a joke.

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    Official: (Bengals) Game will not be resumed this week UPDATE: OFFICIALLY CANCELLED

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    44 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

    Bengals fans, since they beat KC, have been 100% sure that they are winning the SB. It was only a matter of time. They are planning the parade. They almost choke away a 22 point lead to the Pats? No worries. They need turnovers on 4 STRAIGHT POSSESSIONS to beat the Bucs. No concerns. We should be more like them.


     

    Keep thinking the Bengals did not own the Bucs or Patriots.  Their offense was absolutely running through the Bills defense before losing 2 DBs (prayers for both).  This uninformed comment simply reveals you didnt watch either game.  Im guessing you were not watching Monday either.

    1 minute ago, What a Tuel said:

     

    You have to consider Bengals Ravens if the Ravens win, I know everyone is discounting them winning but crazier things have heppened.

     

    11-6 and 11-5 records. I believe they'd play against each other in the Wild Card. Neutral site there too?


    No it is a coin flip to determine home field.  1st time ever a division winner and Top 4 seed has to play on the road the first playoff game.  This is awful for the Bengals.

    8 minutes ago, Casey D said:

    Right.  Nothing is perfect here, but the good should not be the enemy of the perfect.  This proposal is about as good as you can do.  Cincy likely gets the worst of ti as they will beat the Ravens.  KC benefits, and for the Bills it is about a wash. 


    What part is good for Cincy?  It is awful for them.

    Tank the Pats game?

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    8 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

     

    It almost certainly won't, but depending on the math it could be possible because it's not just about the Patriots and Ravens, it's about all of the teams that we each played this year.  So in theory (depending on the margin, and I'm not going to do the math) if every non-common opponent we played wins this weekend, and every non-common opponent of the Bengals loses, then our strength of victory could surpass theirs.


    I was under the impression the math was done for all teams and the lead was insurmountable regardless of outcomes this Sunday.... of course getting reliable info from any source the last couple of days has been iffy at best.

    Tank the Pats game?

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    20 minutes ago, Casey D said:

    I am wrong, thank you.  It would come to SOV.  That will change depending on outcome of lots of games. Right now it goes to Cincy, but it could change.

     

    19 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    It could change, but most likely it favors Cincinnati getting stronger by Beating the Ravens for a better SOV.

     

     



    How could this change?  It is down to the Patriots and Ravens - it is impossible for the Patriots to be the stronger team even if they win and Ravens lose.

    Tank the Pats game?

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    1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:


    I believe you are incorrect.  We have the tie breaker over Bengals if we end up losing and they win.  
     

    So if Chiefs win, we are 100% locked into the 2 seed and the outcome of the Pats game has no bearing on seeding.  
     

    That was the point if the OP.


    That is incorrect

     

    59 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:


    We would be tied on first tie breaker still and it goes to the second tie breaker which I believe is record vs common opponents which we have a 1 game advantage on.  They did the whole scenario earlier, we tie again on first tie breaker and win on second tie breaker.  
     

    Bills can’t finish the season lower than the 2 seed if the Bills vs Bengals game is declared a no contest 
     



    Why do you keep saying everyone is wrong?  The entire world, including most posters on this site, know the Bengals own the final tiebreaker.  What tiebreaker do you think the Bills own?

    What Bengals & Chiefs fans are saying about the situation:

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    48 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

    U better believe this Saturday I’ll be cheering for the Raiders as if they were the Bills . I’m tired of these Chiefs fans and the Chiefs in general. Let’s go Raiders beat these #######s. 


     

    Whichever of us ends up playing KC you can bet both fanbases will be rooting for each other.  I think the Bills absolutely beat them again, and I doubt very seriously if they want any part of the Bengals, we might be getting in their heads a little bit.

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    What Bengals & Chiefs fans are saying about the situation:

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    1 hour ago, chongli said:

     

    Yep, good point. Someone on the Bengals forum also said Hamlin was a dirty player and cited that ejection. Ugh. And a twitter post aksed why are they suspeding the game for just a 6th-round draft pick. Unbelievable.


    I haven't seen any Bengals fan disparage Hamlin on our board?  We have a couple of idiots and more than a few drive by posters that are fans of other teams.  I dont think there is any doubt that the team and the city is 99.99% concerned and praying for the young man and the other players.

    What Bengals & Chiefs fans are saying about the situation:

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    7 hours ago, BigDingus said:

    Bengals Board Posts - http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-What-would-you-like-to-happen :

     

    1. "It's fine by me to just declare the game a no-contest, with no winners, no ties, and don't replay. Players and fans of other teams impacted would understand. The worst scenario for me is a decision that benefits the Bengals because that would cast the Bengals as villains from now until the end of the NFL. I'd rather the Bengals take the high road, even offer to take a decision hurts the Bengals. It was the Bengals field, the Bengals were hosts, so even offer to take a loss if they want."

     

    2. "If I'm the Bengals, I'd offer the Bills the W just as a nice gesture. It's relatively meaningless to them right now, but it would just show support. Whether they'd accept it or not, calling the game for them would just be a nice thing to do, and would be well regarded for a long time." 

     

    3. "I am fine with anything other than accepting a loss. Cincinnati did absolutely nothing wrong. You can’t punish Cincinnati for something out of their control."

     

    4. "IMO the Bills should be given the option to play it or forfeit. There should be no tie or "no contest". 

     

    5. "The moment the Bengals agreed to leave the field and then the game altogether, they forfeited any sensible capacity to demand a forfeit. Ridiculous."

     

    6. "To some extent there is time to resume the game, at the same point, because the two weeks break before the Super Bowl can always become a one-week break. Two weeks always seems too much anyway. They can push the playoffs back a week. Playoff teams all get a week extra. I'm sure you can't push the Super Bowl back, but playoff games surely can, because you never know whether a team would be playing anyway."

     

    7. "What if Bills are still too overcome with grief and sadness to play New England, what does the God man do then ? Should the Bills' feelings dictate how the season plays out? Should they just be awarded the Lombardi and the lague just calls it quits til next season?"

     

    8. "Probably won’t happen, but: Scratch this game entirely. If the Bengals and Bills meet in the playoffs, play it at a neutral site (Detroit would be very fair). I realize Buffalo would have the better record, but yesterday’s game was still for the 2-seed at least."

     

    9. "My biggest fear at this point is Buffalo trying to use this whole situation to their advantage. There is more incentive for them to NOT PLAY this game and take a tie rather than to play it (down 7-3 and the Bengals threatening to score again) to try and claim the 1 seed. If they lobby for a tie, it gives them the two seed, gives them one less game for their guys to get hurt, and eliminates the possibility of slipping to a 3 seed. Given how the game was going and the score, I think they'd be more than happy hanging on to the 2 seed rather than chancing it. I hope I am wrong, but a tie really ***** over the Bengals here."

     

    10. "Absolutely nothing from the Bills owners, coaching staff or fans indicates they would try to use this to their advantage. GTFO with that sh" (response to above post)

     

     

    Chiefs Board Posts https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=346826 :

     

    1. "I hope our fanbase doesn't come out being jerks about it, whatever happens. I can't imagine we would, but there are always a few exceptions. At this point if they just simply cancel the game and go from there, who cares?"

     

    2. "As far as I am concerned both teams decided last night to forfeit the game." 

     

    3. *Here's a little back & forth* -

     

    Guy 1: "It's an unfair advantage to allow them to choose to play a game in the next few days or next week that they chose not to continue last night because someone nearly died on the field? Yeah, that seems like a solid and persuasive argument."

     

    Guy 2: "Yes because of playoff implications, it IS an unfair advantage. We had a player off himself in front of our COACH and GM and we played two days later, as scheduled. "Nearly Died" We have seen players become PERMANENTLY PARALYZED and they continued to play. The unfair advantage is some teams would be RESTING players next week. Now this throws a wrench into the entire seeding issue."

     

    Guy 1: "Do you think the Chiefs would've played the game if Belcher had killed himself in the parking lot immediately before the game? Answer: no. We now know that he didn't die on the field. But at the time, none of those players had any idea if he'd make it to the hospital or even off the field alive. Not the same as a guy being taken away by an ambulance on a stretcher with fear of a potential paralyzing injury."

     

    4. "America is so weak." 

     

    5. "I'd say leave it up to the Bills. If they're not up for it within the next few days, they need to forfeit."

     

    6. "This is going to go down with the Music City Miracle and Wide Right in Bills lore."

     

    7. "if they cant / dont want to play it, then they should just concede the L and move on."

     

    8. "The right call is whatever is best for the teams involved. The right call has nothing to do with inconveniences or money lost by the fans."

     

    9. "If they call the game, I think it needs to be a Bills loss and Bengals win. Bengals were winning and playing really well. It wasn’t one of their players who went down, so why punish them?"

     

    10. "I have to say, I've never seen more virtue signaling in my life. Everybody is trying to show everybody how morally superior they are on this subject. People on fantasy football Reddit are acting like people can't even ask questions about how to proceed in their leagues."

     

    11. "This year in lieu of a superbowl trophy every team will get a participation trophy as well. **** that. Take a L for a forfeit, take a tie if Cinci agrees (and I doubt they will), or play the game. I'm not trying to sound callous here and I understand they saw some scary *****, but come on man. It sounds an awful lot like someone is trying to use that ***** for their advantage."

     

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    So yeah... majority of Bengals fans seem as confused/concerned as we are. There were a handful of dumb posts, but most of them echoed our sentiments. Chiefs fans on the other hand, much more of a mixed bag. There were plenty of posts voicing concern, but also a MUCH greater % of people being callous, talking s*** or just whining. It's clear they've got no interest in any solution that involves them. 

     



    Not surprised. 

    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    1 minute ago, SCBills said:

     

    My pushback would be that the Bills season-long data would tell you they adjust.   For better or worse.. that's the Bills Defense this year. 



    I don't disagree with this comment, that said the Bengals DC is perhaps the best in the league with halftime adjustments - thus at the least there would had been some offset.

    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    I'm trying to show you that just because someone starts off hot, doesn't mean it will continue.  Whether or not it's self inflicted, it just shows you that to determine that we would have gotten blown out based on a half quarter of action is pretty crazy.  Not saying it's you but there are people who thought the game was over.

     

    Yes, we aren't the Pats.  We have a much better offense to keep up with the Bengals.  Burrow throws picks too.

     

    They don't have to implode two weeks in a row, we could have gotten hot too.



    I dont disagree, as perhaps you missed my last sentence... "That said, unlike the Pats, the Bills are plenty good enough to come back without the opponent trying to give the game away."

    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    Posted · Edited by Caesar

    16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    You're right.  The Bengals can't be come backed on.  Evidence was last week when they were up by 22-0 at halftime, Burrow had just under 300 yards passing in the first half with 3 TD's.  The Bengals have an elite team so the Pats never had a chance in the game.

     

    51 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Yep.  The Bengals scored on all 4 drives in the 1st half against the Pats and were up 22-0.  That spoke volumes as well since the Bengals kept putting up the points on the Pats after half time too.  

     

    13 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

     

    Kinda like the same they looked like against the Pats and then did nothingin the 2nd half?  Cincy does a lot of that...they look great for a half but then don't score much the other half.  Hell, even the Bills have done that.  Nothing could really be "figured" out from what we saw to start.



    It is obvious you guys did not watch the Patriots game.  Bengals went conservative but still moved the ball with ease, they did have 2 punts but also a missed FG, fumbled, TD called back, 2 interceptions both on the WRs and one in the red zone, Pats had a Hail Mary tipped TD on 3rd & 28 from midfield, Pats had ONE scoring drive the entire game.  Very doubtful the Bengals self implode like that in back to back weeks.  That said, unlike the Pats, the Bills are plenty good enough to come back without the opponent trying to give the game away.  

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    Playoff Solutions Assuming they don’t replay the Bengals game.

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    2 minutes ago, Roy Hobbs said:

     

    In effect yes, but given the special circumstances I don't see a lot of choices. If the Bills or Bengals end up with the #1 seed, they would get the next week off. 

     

    So schedule wise ... 

     

    Bills-Bengals - Jan 14-15 (resume game where it left off)

    Wild card - Jan 21-22

    Divisional - Jan 28-29

    Conference champs - Feb 4-5

    Super Bowl - Feb 12



    I wonder how this would impact Super Bowl logistics?  Isn't SB week/Pro Bowl week a large earnings period.  Last year there were hundreds of vendors set up the week before the SB with tons of events... Not to mention Phoenix is planning on a 2 week event...?

    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    Posted · Edited by Caesar

    20 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

    The interception was a long long pass and they were not in the red zone at the time of the pick. TD Called back because the only reason Burrows was able to get rid of the ball was the huge hold on Judon.. also was a long pass as well.  The FG was a 55 yarder hardly a chip shot.  So unlike the first half they didn’t move the ball with lightning efficiency.
     

    lol watch the play again the ball was right in Washington chest he should have caught it, they were lucky he tipped it to Meyers but it wasn’t a Hail Mary pass like you said. 

     

     

    What game are you talking about?   There was no  "long long pass" interception this game?  Seriously, if you are going to make stuff up add a disclaimer.     Im not sure I even want to debate this awful set of lies....

    2nd & 14 at NE 18

    (4:19 - 2nd) (Shotgun) J.Burrow pass short middle intended for T.Boyd INTERCEPTED by D.McCourty at NE 15. 

    4th & 4 at NE 25

    (9:06 - 4th) E.McPherson 43 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Left, Center-C.Adomitis, Holder-D.Chrisman.

    See the pic, not close to Washington's chest with TWO defenders sticking there arms in to knock the pass down.   Question: Do you always blatantly lie like this on this message board?  Do you have ANY credibility whatsoever?  

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    Playoff Solutions Assuming they don’t replay the Bengals game.

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    5 hours ago, Trekking said:

    1. Cancel the game.

    2. Give both teams a win. KC loses the tie breaker versus both teams by losing a head to head against both earlier this season. It’d be very unfair to give them the advantage because of what happened here. By giving both teams a win, the last game of the season for all three teams still matter.  And let’s be honest, these two teams are going to play again. 
    3. Give cinci home field in afc championship game if it’s between them and buffalo




    This is a logistics nightmare.   Cancelling the game altogether with no winner impacts so many teams.  If the game isn't replayed I guess Im for the final score being what it was when the game was suspended.... but Im a Bengals fan and this might not be the most popular idea here.

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    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    Posted · Edited by Caesar

    8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

    Yes, you’re right Bengals fan, when the final yards are 68 to 66 it does indicate that the Bills were having a harder time moving the ball.

     

    After all, the Bills were only averaging 7 yards per carry, not 12.

     

    And before you point out, yes I am aware that doesn’t include the 29-yard penalty. 



    I am in no way suggesting the Bengals were shutting down the Bills offense, but it certainly did not seem that the Bills D didnt have any answer for the Bengals offense.  We can disagree, it's just how I saw it.  I was expecting the exact opposite to happen before the game.

    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

    I find it hard to believe the cincy oline would continue to be allowed to hold as badly as they were for 4 quarters so I think the bills were moving the ball easier in reality.  There was an absolutely egregious hold on just about every offensive snap for cincy.  At some point the bills dline was going to take over or the bills would have stopped blitzing if they were just letting holds go in this one.  It’s hard to say what would’ve happened defensively 


    Seriously?  Are you sure you are not a KC fan with this blaming the refs whining?  Are you one of those that shouted the refs are cheating on the Chase/White hold 1st play?   Let's be better than blaming the refs with only 8 plays.

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    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

    Bills stupidly went man on the first play (maybe tried a corner blitz) and we all heard the same thing in the lead up to this game - the second you go man against Chase or Higgins, Burrow goes deep.

     

    First play I knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as the Bills went into formation, no safety shaded over the top.
     

    We had another play where the defense looked disheveled, Milano ended up having to cover a WR in the slot, motioning there late.

     

    Clearly the Bengals plan was to find #27 and go there.

     

    We had the Hamlin play where he moved towards the line and Hurst ran right past him. 


    Bottom Line: Defensively the Bills don’t have to live like this with Tre White. Leslie Frazier said it in his press conferences, Tre won’t be the same this year. But the Bills making Rhodes inactive left them thin at CB and I don’t understand their decisions with him. Benford is coming back as well.

     

    I question whether this Coaching staff will actually take Tre off the field in spots, because he’s there on reputation now. The Bills don’t pivot, they’ll just keep putting him out there, and Burrow will get lauded for the Boyd TD, another where Tre gets smoked the entire route.

     

     

     

    Offensively, Josh was playing without a sleeve, so I don’t want to hear anything else about his elbow. Buck mentioned it again. 

     

    All we heard about was DJ Reader wrecking things and that didn’t happen. Cook was ripping into the second level, Allen on a couple of occasions was tripped up just before getting big yards as well. 
     

    Bengals fans talked trash about Logan Wilson and he got torched across the middle by Diggs. 

     

    The second down play call at the goal line, just watching it once, I didn’t understand what the Bills were trying to do and immediately I said why not run Josh there? They roll Allen out to the short side of the field and nobody is there?

     

    Beasley should have caught the 3rd down ball, he did all the hard work and broke his corner off cleanly.

     

    Bottom line offensively - Bengals got ZERO pressure on Allen. They didn’t stop the run either. Bills moved the ball at ease. 
     

     

     


    Lol, imagine  Diggs beating a 250 pound middle linebacker..... simply incredible for a WR with his lack of ability to do such a thing. I wish Chase could beat a LB....

    I understand the optimism, but it certainly seemed the Bills were having a tougher time gaining yards than Cincy.   Hope Hamlin is ok, this game could have been epic.

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    Thoughts on Bengals Game.

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    13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Yep.  Last week when the Bengals started off hot against the Pats, they continued it all game long and I think beat them by 30?  Is that right?

    That game shows you right there that once the Bengals start off well, they don't slow down.  

     

    11 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


    Uh no. The Patriots were a fumble at the Cincy 10 away from winning the game late 



    Not really how it happened vs the Pats.  Bengals continued to drive on the Patriots the 2nd half - only 2 punts.  Interception in the redzone, fumble, TD called back, Missed FG - everything that could go wrong did, but it wasn't really anything the Pats did.  They had a hail mary tipped TD, in fact they had only one scoring drive all game. Of course the same could have happened with the Bengals in this game as the Bills are much better than the Pats.

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