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16 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:
Because Einstein if the Qb didn’t fumble the Ravens likely win. It’s not up for discussion, it’s a fact.
Exactly …
Really? The fumble was at the 12 minute mark in the 4th. The Bengals played extremely vanilla on purpose in the last 2 games vs the Ravens. We have beaten the Ravens the last 4 out of 5, their only win being a walk-off FG, and if you dont think the Bengals offense can score a couple TDs in 12 minutes then.... thats on you. -
#1. The tickets thing was simply to get the players fired up. The Joe Mixons of the team didnt understand and probably still dont, as we were selling Jaguar tickets as well. Joe simply made a joke with the "refunds" comment - those upset with this are waaaay too fragile.
#2. You guys are seriously going to crucify our entire team, coaches and fans because of Eli Apple? Half of our fans don't like the guy. There is a thread on our main board about this: Apple Needs to STFU (Pages: 1 2 3 4 )
The players had to tell Eli to stop tweeting during the playoffs last season. Judging everyone associated with the team because of Eli Apple is a bit shortsighted.-
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7 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:
The Bengals will lock up Burrow and Chase along with some good young players on defense already locked up. They will run into cap issues and have some key casualties but their biggest thing right now is holding on to Anarumo for as long as possible.
All of us with a an elite QB will eventually have cap issues.
Extending Joe and Tee after this season gives us 2-3 yers before the big hit comes. Our only big money guys on defense are Reader ($11M) and Hendrickson ($10M), they both turn 30 when these current contracts expire. Hubbard is a hometown boy who has already taken discounts and isnt leaving. We will pay Logan Wilson but Germain Pratt and Jesse Bates are likely gone after this season.
We have $22M tied up in Mixon and Boyd that would be freed up after next season, we would no longer have these luxury type players moving forward, IMO. -
2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:
2 years ago Mahomes and Hill was restructured to get an offensive line. it worked out well for them.
I would argue scheme has put Edmunds in bad situations. Last game, the middle of the field was open ALL GAME LONG. That is not on tre if he is schemed to go elsewhere.
Mahomes deal really had nothing to do with him. His roster bonus was converted to a signing bonus that could be prorated. Thus a $21M roster bonus hit was lowered to $4M, saving $17M that season, with 5 more $4M payments down the road.
Allen doesn't have a big roster bonus until 2025. They would have to restructure his base.-
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Just now, Gregg said:
Nobody knows what would have happened if the Ravens score. If I remember correctly, it was 17-17 midway thru the 4th quarter. If they don't turn it over the Ravens at worst go up 20-17. The Ravens D held the Bengals to two first downs in the 2nd half. They were dominating the Bengals offense at that point. Who knows how it plays out, but the Bengals would have been in danger of losing. Give the Bengals D credit for making a big play and winning the game.
You obviously did not watch the game. Once we got the lead we ran the ball up the middle and had a couple swing passes, very conservative. In fact, the Week 18 game and wildcard we were very vanilla and sat on the ball with the lead. There was no domination by the Ravens whatsoever.
Some perspective: Joe Burrow has a passer rating of 101.0 with 1,556 yards, 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions in 5 games against the Ravens in his career.
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40 minutes ago, Gregg said:
Baltimore has a great front office. They draft and develop their players well. When was the last time the Ravens were bad.
As for Watson he missed a lot of time and only played towards the end of the season. With a full offseason, preseason and playing starting week 1 then we will see if he regains his old form.
The Steelers are one of those teams that never stay down too long. Like the Ravens they have a good front office and are run well.
The Bengals are the best in the division, but they will be challenged. The North is a very tough division.
These are good points, I will counter with the league has made a very large change in philosophy. This is now 100% a passing league, see the extensive pass interference and roughing the QB penalties.
The Ravens and Steelers are very solid organizations. But both teams have defensive HC's with a philosophy of a strong run game and tough defense. This just isnt the way anymore. The Bengals have won 8 of 10 with these 2 clubs. And both losses were last second FGs.
The Browns are an annual *****-show for one reason or another.-
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23 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:
Yet they should have lost to the Ravens….
Why do you say this? If we are playing this silly game, the Bills should have lost to the Ravens much more than the Bengals. -
1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
And btw…..I will say the Bengals were not beating the Ravens if Huntley scored because I felt the game was not going the way Bengals fans thought the Monday night game against us was going in just the 1st quarter
The Ravens punched them in the mouth on offense and especially on defense.
Bengals were always right about one thing….we ain’t the Ravens. They don’t match up well with them.
You can say whatever you want, but it doesn't make it true. There was 12 minutes left in the Ravens game when Huntley fumbled. Burrow did not attempt a pass over 15 yards, we were using a preseason playbook. We basically ran out the clock the rest of the game, Mixon and swing passes. The Ravens barely beat us early with a last minute FG after we gave up the ball on our own goal line. We have beaten the Ravens 4 out of the last 5 and we are 12-8 over the last 10 years. We will always beat the Ravens playing with a backup QB. -
23 minutes ago, Gregg said:
The Bengals will have to battle it out just to win the North. All 4 teams hate one another. If LJ resigns with the Ravens, then they can certainly beat the Bengals. They match up well with them. They almost beat them in CIN with a backup QB. Say what you want about Watson being a POS but if he regains his old form then he is a very good QB. Combine that with the Browns running game and their defense then they are another team that will give the Bengals a hard time. Battle of Ohio is usually a hard-fought game. While the Steelers are trying to build their team with Pickett, they still have a good defense. They can also give the Bengals a hard time. The games between these teams are not only physical but sometimes dirty. The rivalries in this division are more intense than the ones in the AFCE.
The narrative "almost beat" is so lazy. The Texans almost beat the Chiefs a few weeks ago... Bengals have beat the Ravens 4 out of the last 5 games. The one loss was a last second FG by Tucker. The Bengals did not open the playbook the last 2 games vs the Ravens, the fumble recovery did not happen at the end of the last game.
Ravens are a good team, Bills should hope Lamar doesn't end up with the Jets.
Bengals have beaten the Steelers 4 out of the last 5 times. The loss opening day this season with new oline with no games together, Burrow off a surgery with no preseason. It took 5 turnovers, a missed extra point, and an OT FG for Pitt to win the game.
The Browns are always a pain for the Bengals. If Watson were to regain his form they would be a problem, they have talent. The last 3 games:
Bengals won.
Bengals lost. 1st game without Chase, lost CB1 for the year early in the game, LT dislocated knee cap, worst of all the team found out before the game that a young assistant coach had died the evening before the game.
Bengals lost. AFCN championship locked in, Cincy did not play any starters resting for the playoffs.
It is definitely a physical division and playing the Chiefs & Bills during the regular season will not be easy as well. I could see the AFCW improving some and if the Jets find a good QB the East could become more competitive. -
7 hours ago, Man with No Name said:
so i guess we need to ask ourselves why a mediocre team like baltimore can almost beat them while we get rolled by them. And it wasn't just a bad day. The MNF game started out exactly the same.
We have matchup problems with them, players and/or scheme, and they aren't going anywhere. so we need to change in a big way.
Ravens are a conference opponent that the Bengals played 3 times. The Bengals did not open the playbook in week 18 or the next week in the wildcard game vs the Ravens.
That said, I have no idea how our oline was so successful and the Bills oline struggled, the trenches seemed to be the difference in the game. -
19 minutes ago, Billl said:
Bengals still have to prove that they can draft well when they don’t have top 5 picks every year.
Drafted Starters vs Bills:
WR Higgins - 2nd
WR Boyd - 2nd
LT Carman - 2nd
LG Volson - 4th
RT Adeniji - 6th
RB Mixon - 2nd
DE Hubbard - 3rd
LB Pratt - 3rd
LB Wilson - 3rd
CB CTB - 2nd
FS Bates - 2nd
K McPherson - 5th
Rotational Players vs Bills:
S Hill - 1st (#31)
DT Carter - 3rd
DE Sample 4th
DE Ossai - 3rd
LB ADG - 4th
LB Bailey - 7th
RB Williams - 6th
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7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
That fumble happened with 3 minutes left in the game and the Ravens were not going to allow them to come down and tie - the way they were playing D.
Why lie? Do you do this often?
23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:Yeah Cinci fans will want to deny it to opposing fans of other teams..........but most know........the Bengals ownership will go the equivalent of "cash to cap" with the payroll when those star salaries start reaching $30M-$50M aav and that will limit them a bit.
We know that because the Wilson family and Brown family were two peas in a pod........and Ralph would have done the same thing if he were alive and still had his faculties.
When they franchised Jessie Bates that also indicated it was still business as usual. It's easy to eat up cap space taking big 1 year cap hits.
The new owners in the NFL can run cash laps around a lot of the legacy teams whose wealth is almost entirely dependent on their football team........it's just a reality.
That's not to say they will decline but their "actual" available resources will come back to the pack.........just like the Bills have, despite more accommodating ownership, because of a number of bad UFA decisions in years past.
And then you have to continue to draft and develop and hire good people. KC we know for certain will do that. Cinci might but their sample size is small.
Buffalo? Beane has his work cut out for him but nobody else to blame if he can't start squeezing more value from his cap room and draft picks.
Actually... the Bengals have always paid QBs and WRs.
Bates did not have a good season last year and wanted top 3 money, we knew Burrow and Tee would be due after this season. Drafting Dax Hill and tagging Bates was the right move, FS is not a priority position for us. -
4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
Lol if Huntley holds on to the ball they don’t even win a playoff game this year.
12 minutes ago, Plano said:THIS is the answer!They're not world-beaters, however, they just happened to kick the crap out of us yesterday.
Ravens should have won that game.
Really? This is the answer? That fumble happened with 12 minutes left on the clock. We played a very vanilla offense the entire game. I expect better football knowledge out of this fanbase.
9 minutes ago, Process said:Don't let that distract you from the fact that Joe Burrow is the next Tom Brady.
The Bengals are not the freakin team to beat, lol.
I can't wait to watch everyone in the media freak out all next summer when the Bills are heavily favored over the bengals to win the superbowl.
This is a real possibility even if the Bengals return to the SB again this season. But I would still rather be the disrespected team playing in the last game rather than the media's preseason favorite.
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9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
If a team like Indy hires Callahan gets at HC, drafts a CJ Stroud and offers Higgins $110 million would he walk? It's nice to think the players will give a "home town" discount but more than not they look to cash in.
7 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:Bengals are going to find out real soon how much it costs to pay an elite QB. I’m praying they win the Super Bowl so his value is hyper inflated.
3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:Sounds good but there is no way to know this and they will have salary cap issues soon enough of their own and perhaps worse than the Bills since Burrow will likely become the highest paid QB in the NFL which will be a lot higher than it is now.
1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:Did our mods go out to dinner or something?
Joker:
If Tee gets a much better deal than we offer I have no doubt he will leave, but that is the reason we are offering him this spring. Other teams cannot make offers until after next season. He has the same agent as Deshaun Watson so I am prepared for the worse.
Dr. Sack:
We paid Palmer $100M, we paid Dalton, every team knows the impact of a high priced QB. Our hope is a long term deal with rolling guarantees, we wont know until the deal is done.
Turk:
We can make Burrow the highest paid player and still have a cap friendly structure.
Frenchie:
Why? -
10 minutes ago, LEBills said:
I doubt Burrow takes a Mahomes deal. The Watson deal is the new standard and better for the player. Imo you are dreaming about that type of contract.
I would be hopeful that the Brown family is less stingy than Mike if I was a Bengals fan too. But the Bengals ownership is still the poorest of these very rich teams (aside from the Packers). There will be real cash limitations that other poorer teams deal with. Look at the list of teams at the bottom and aside from the Steelers it is perennial bad teams partly because the exploding cap makes this an Uber-rich mans game. The Bills were in this boat with Ralph too, it’s tough to out scout, out develop and out coach for long. Good luck.3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:I can't see Tee sticking around when his contact ends, obviously Chase is the alpha dog there yet Tee and Boyd are the guys that make your passing game the scary thing it is IMHO. Chase reminds me of Diggs in many ways.
I think you and many other teams "hope" Burrow does not take a Mahomes deal.
Joe is in a unique situation as he is now a part of the player acquisition process. It is his team, he has said it, he knows Brady took less to win rings and
his competitiveness is off the charts, almost weird. He hasn't spent any of his $24M and his goal is not spend any NFL compensation.
Joe will need to be compensated very well, a 10-12yr $500M deal would make him the highest paid and with certain provisions will allow for others to be signed as well. We will see.
Jokeman - your comment regarding Tee makes sense, except that Tee is not an alpha. He is very quiet and best friends with Chase. He prefers Chase being out front. A 4 year $80M deal should be doable and keep him in Cincy. I cant stress enough how much credit the WRs give Burrow for their success. They understand the difference a QB could make. Any team not named Bills or Chiefs would be a downgrade as to their next QB, if they were to leave. -
12 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
counter, burrow and chase will quickly eat that cap and their margin for error will shrink drastically.
they are what the bills should’ve been 2-3 years ago when fans were just happy to be in the playoffs.
we will be contenders for a decade but it’ll be tough to overcome the teams with a qb and wr or DE on rookie deals. It just amounts to like 4-5 extra good vet starters
11 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
heck, zay Jones got 3 years 24Mboyd is exactly the type they likely won’t be able to keep
8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:And plays a key role in their offense.
Burrow and Chase won't have an immediate cap impact like many believe.
You guys can over pay for a 30 year old Tyler Boyd. I'm guessing we draft another deep threat opposite Tee with Chase playing the slot much more. -
6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Boyd won't get a massive deal but might get a deal the Bengals can't match for a role player. As a team looking to improve their WR might give him a rich contract that enough to want to leave or feel more wanted is all I'm saying.
Boyd will be 30 in the 2024 season, Bengals will not consider anything crazy.
4 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:Right, but after all that, they will be in a cap crunch too & not be able to aquire free agents as easily as they can now. They will be in the position the Bills are currently in. It always gets harder once you get passed rookie deals. It's interesting for them that Burrow & Higgins are the same draft, then Chase is not far afterwards. Makes it harder, buy not impossible to space out. So they'll be good for a while, but this stuff could get interesting. Regardless, Cincy will be an issue for the foreseeable future.
Burrow and Higgins being in the same class isn't really the same. We will exercise Joe's 5th year option avoiding a huge cap hit for the next 3 years. Chase's big hit won't likely make a huge impact until 2027. It will be interesting. -
11 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
KC is like the Patriots in that their division rivals aren't competitive which allows them to get wins abounds. I'll admits Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL too but his lack of wins against the Bengals and Bills in the regular season the last few seasons gives me pause. As Reid was great at leading Eagles to conference champion games too.
The Bengals will be in trouble if Higgins and Boyd want to get paid and if their DTs leave in UFA or Hubbard gets a top deal elsewhere.
Higgins is the biggest question mark, Boyd will not get a big contract. Reader signed thru next season and Hill thru 2024. Hubbard is never leaving Cincy, born in Cincy, went to OSU, guy will be the Mayor one day.
7 minutes ago, BillzFreak said:That's life in the NFL players talk about keeping the core together untill one of them is offered less then what they think they deserve, then that whole I don't want to leave this place talk dies down real quick. I'm not saying the Bengals won't be able to resign all those guys but you can't ever bank on it happening.
I dont expect it to happen 100%, I am glad we are trying. Tee will be the most questionable, he has a very tough agent and he may want to be a #1 elsewhere. Tee is extremely close with the other WRs and a bit of an introvert, he may stay for the "family aspect", but that is a long shot, better chance we pay him large or tag him. Jamar has already said he is never leaving Joe, they are "bread & butter".
We are in pretty good shape cap wise with a relatively young roster. -
2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:
This year and next year for sure. But this offseason they will need to pay Burrow, which means the 1st year of his large deal would start in 2024 and they also need to pay Jonah Williams, DJ Reader, Tyler Boyd, Chidobe Awuzie, and Tee Higgins in 2024. They will eventually run into the same issues the Chiefs and Bills currently have in paying people.
2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:And Mike Brown has no other source of income other than the team. He owns no businesses and his father was a football coach.
1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said:Burrow & Tee Higgins in same draft class, Chase a year or 2 later. That's gonna get awful expensive awful soon. We'll see who they can afford to keep & how they do w/ no $. But yeah until then they are the team to beat. They will beat KC.
1 hour ago, LEBills said:Nah, right now Burrow, Chase and Higgins are cheap. Once they all require mega deals they will be broken up because Mike Brown is cheap. Also good chance they start losing good coordinators like we did. They got another 2-3 years max of this. They will always be good with Burrow tho
1 hour ago, GolfandBills said:They won’t be on rookie contracts for long.
5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:Burrow is due for a contract extension soon want to see 50 million plus of that cap space disappear? You just did.
Couple things.
1. Bengals will have enough money to sign who they want. Mike Brown is not pulling the strings anymore. The Bengals have been very active in free agency the last couple of years. The narrative that the Bengals won't/can't spend money is not as limiting as it once was, we will always have issues with the guaranteed escrow requirements.
2. Bengals will attempt to extend Burrow and Tee immediately after this season. Burrow's high salary will most likely not have a major impact until 2026. The goal is to sign Burrow to a Mahomes-like longterm contract with rolling guarantees, perhaps a 10 yr, $500M deal which would make him the highest paid, but also limit the required escrow, and spread prorated payments every season.
3. If Burrow agrees to the Mahomes-like deal, the Bengals would be able to keep the team together much easier.
4. I expect the Bengals to lose Bates and most likely Pratt after this season.
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1 hour ago, arcane said:
I've seen a sentiment floating around that worries about all of the upcoming talent, ascending teams in the AFC.
that was us 2 years ago, it felt like we were set up for a decade of dominance.
The chargers, jags, bengals etc. Aren't always going to look as dominant or promising as they do today, just like we weren't.
The Bengals owner is so lacking in money that as soon as burrow gets paid, their roster is going to hit a wall faster than ours. Jacksonville will have similar issues in a couple years, and had a LOT of free agent dollars come up so small on Saturday. The chargers are the chargers.
The Bills can and will retool. Next year, like this year, will probably not be the best iteration of the Josh Allen Bills when all things are said and done. But the Bills are not sunk at all, and I fully believe that josh will bring us to the promised land
This is a dated truth. Mike Brown is not in control anymore, since he stepped away Cincy has spent aggressively in free agency lately.
DJ Reader, Von Bell, Mike Hilton, Hayden Hurst, Trey Hendrickson, BJ Hill, Chido Awuzie, Trey Flowers, Eli Apple, Ted Karras, Alex Cappa, La'el Collins, Max Scharping - all signed in the last couple years and all have been impact players.
It is no secret ownership's main focus is on extending Burrow and Higgins immediately after the upcoming Super Bowl. If Burrow accepts a long-term (10 year) deal with rolling guarantees the Bengals will be in ok shape moving forward. We are definitely limited by the required escrow, but it can be managed with Burrow's assistance. Of course he can simply name his number and we will pay it, he has said he wants to keep the core together, we will see....?
We will lose 2 key players from this team - Jesse Bates and Germain Pratt, both are up for big contracts.-
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Josh is so hard to tackle, we get pressure and can’t get a hold of this guy.
A little surprised Bills are not running the ball more?
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1 minute ago, Billz4ever said:
Isn't Cincy playing a rookie CB today?
Yes and he missed the first 8 games or so with an injury.
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The 2nd half opening drive will be important, Bengals cant let Bills get momentum. Feels like Josh is about to explode anytime. Happy with the backup oline thus far, of course our only legitimate starter, Karras the center, was injured early in the 2nd.
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1 minute ago, balln said:
How about a hot poker coming into your A hole
There are a handful here that just cant help themselves.
Bengals will be the team to beat for years to come
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A little salty aren't you?
You obviously did not watch the Ravens or Patriots game. We are clowns if we lose in a championship game or Super Bowl after beating the Bills?
I never said we are unstoppable, unless we are playing in Orchard Park apparently....