Joe Ferguson forever

yeah, I'll do that🤣 powers that be don't include you.

It seems we share something: a fondness for talking heads. It dates you. Saw them in 1979 in a college gym with 500 others. Had never heard of them. Fan ever since. it’s great that the bill was passed but things are not and will not be the same. I thought most MAGAs voted explicitly for change. They’re going to get it. Trump wanted a shutdown. He’s going to get what he wants more often than not.

Way to miss the point: the more things change, the more things stay the same.

Unsurprisingly, you argue with the off hand comment rather than your support for a documented traitor.

You mean like the “investor class?” Trump sure has us investors by the short and curlies. And the plebs are going to make out like bandits! And who are state leaches? You mean people cashing in on government aid programs? More MAGAs doing that than Ds. Look at the election demographics…

What a load of crap. There was abundant coordination. It’s well documented but you choose to ignore it. Telling that you call the fake electors scheme a conspiracy. Yet you support a man who engaged in a conspiracy against his own country and therefore his own people. How do you rationalize that? Flue is what you open in a fireplace btw

your hope and $2.19 will get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds. He's already signaled his priorities and you are not one.

Far right billionaires are great. It's only progressive billionaires that are a problem...

clear as mud...MAGA logic.

say what? what did they want? you seem to be saying "anything but the "establishment". that's a pretty low bar. Think of the historical figures who accomplished overturning the establishment: Lenin, Mao, Castro, Hitler, Mussolini etc. Be careful what you ask for. Your confidence in reigning in trump is misplaced.

and you're calling me naive? trump has a strangle hold on the R party. Almost all other R leaders have bent a knee. Those that haven't were primaried or retired. Yet you think you ar going to hold him to account. Forgive me while I chuckle about you showing him the light should he go astray. In that instance you can take solace in the fact that he's 78, obese and deconditioned. I do.

yes, draining the swamp!!! Apparently, Musk is in agreement. raising the debt ceiling is not gov't efficiency and the debt is not a psychological issue as trump claims. Our huge interest payments are proof enough.

I thought covid was nothing worse than the flu...It was raging by the time Biden took over. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. trump wanted pence to refuse to certify the election. At least you're cognizant of that. Someone has come forward, however and he was trump's attorney. Many other henchmen are now also felons: https://www.npr.org/2023/10/20/1207417000/kenneth-chesebro-guilty-plea-georgia.

“Did a worse job”. Just doesn’t sound right literally or literally. But what was going on between trump and pence then and why?

No sweater vests. Lots of denim and carhart but I don't think you'd be comfortable. I'm going to propose we reread some of the classics banned in Florida. We don't keep a wait list. It's not a country club.

what does it matter where they are from? They exist and are becoming more prevalent and overt. I wonder who they voted for in Nov...Of course they weren't from Charlottesville. They were giving a big F U to the "elites" there just like MAGA is doing to just about every government institution.

A machine at a gym. my fav aerobic exercise. but we do have a TVA lake that would be suitable. remember the TVA, when govt saved millions from starvation during the depression. most of the descendants of those people have forgotten... yes, wouldn't want to interrupt a maga circle jerk. it's ok. we don't have any magas at our weekly bookclub either...

Is there a question here? The reason 1/6 is worse is that it came from within and there are many American disenfranchised citizens who sympathize with the treasonous act. If you think I’m alone in this mindset, go to a faculty lounge or the sub shop in the Charlottesville Wegmans. Look for someone wearing a “political science” hoodie.

Hmmm , and why would he choose academia as the example here? Wouldn’t it suggest that it’s a prime “offender”? ill get back to your question in a while. Got some rowing to do.

C’mon. People of what profession or career spend time in a faculty lounge? You have used the word disparage but until now not the word “atmosphere “ to describe them. Why be disingenuous? Embrace your opinions, foul as they maybe. and yes, I’ve agreed it’s a lovely Wegmans full of mostly interesting people.

so now you're back to claiming that you didn't disparage academics.? Or Charlottesville is not beautiful affluent and safe Or is it that there isn't really a nice Wegmans there that you're likely to run into academics at. Or that there actually aren't academics that have successfully gone in and out of private sector businesses. Which is in the deep end and why never mind, I'm sure you're not interested.

Sad is when you're unhappy with your lot and want radical change. Happy is when you're content and want to conserve the system.

I was right the first time. There are many academics who are very successful in the private sector. Law, finance, medicine and engineering come to mind. But you've laid bare your contempt.. Doesn't that feel better? why would you want to rub shoulders at Wegmans with these awful people? why live in a liberal, college town.? Maybe because it's beautiful, affluent and safe like many college towns.

so what was meant by the disparaging "faculty lounge" comment. It's a fair assumption that you're not an academic and don't think highly of people who are: "To claim otherwise is the stuff of idiotic faculty lounge conversation expressed by people who have no idea of scale or scope" btw, university faculty lounges are largely a thing of the past.

good analysis https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/trump-musk-capitol-chaos-analysis/index.html The sabotaging of Johnson’s funding initiative triggered shock and confusion on Capitol Hill. But for many of Trump’s supporters and boosters in the conservative media who are anticipating massive cuts to federal programs, the mayhem is the point. Even if the impasse leads to a damaging government shutdown, that may represent progress for some since the government itself is viewed with disdain on the populist right. And by taking aim at the Washington status quo even before he takes the oath of office, Trump is doing exactly what he said he’d do on the campaign trail. But the sudden imbroglio also highlighted one of the key issues facing Trump in his second term: If he wants to pass his tax cuts, push through his immigration overhauls, defend the country and leave a meaningful legacy, he will have to find some way to govern – even if that draws him into conflict with base voters and MAGA ideologues who seem happy to burn government to the ground.