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Here's what the nature article says: "n a report released last week, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) noted that the number of BSL-3 and BSL-4 laboratories registered with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia, more than tripled between 2004 and 2008 (see chart). But this number doesn't include all such labs, because labs working with some dangerous pathogens, including those that can cause tuberculosis and severe acute respiratory syndrome, are not required to register." I can't imagine they're not being killer viruses at BLS 3 labs given there are unregistered facilities handling TB. BTW, this article has no citations so the sources can't be checked. Additionally, the author is a "reader in Science" which by my understanding is the UK version of an instructor, At any rate, 60 is more than my threshold for "a few" ... edit: Her CV is impressive although her Phd is in sociology. Still, she co authored this paper on differentiating natural from lab origins for infections. The case study on Anthrax is amazing and helped inform the decision tree presented here, which is from consensus among experts. It's how science works. https://nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Investigating-Outbreaks.pdf
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This is a cool paper. Of course any lab working with deadly pathogens is a safety concern...but that doesn't prove the origin of covid. Here's a reference cited in this paper that shows there were about 1500 high risk pathogen labs in the US in 2009. Where does the 60 number come from? https://www.nature.com/articles/461577a
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stop lying. btw, the link between cigarettes and Lung Ca has only been known for about 75 years. before that, lighters or matches could have been blamed but science sorted it out https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22345227/#:~:text=Cigarettes were recognised as the,conspiracy to salvage cigarette sales. One of the more interesting epidemiological derived origin understanding was Human Papiloma virus which causes genital warts and cervical Ca. Somebody noticed that nuns virtually never get cervical Ca and put it all together.
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well you just lied about research centers for covid and corona viruses. a quick search found this https://www.pennmedicine.org/research-at-penn/research-specialty-areas/penn-research-programs-and-interests/coronavirus-research-center as well as many other centers in the US including Cornell, Hopkins and Vanderbilt. I didn't look outside the US...
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https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/politics/trump-green-cards-gradutate-college/index.htmlr And then his PR person jumped in. “You need a pool of people to work for your companies and they have to be smart people. … You need brilliant people and we force the brilliant people, the people that graduate from college, the people that are number one in their class from the best colleges. You have to be able to recruit these people and keep the people,” the former president said
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Supreme Court decisions.
Joe Ferguson forever replied to B-Man's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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exactly. Want religion in schools? Send your kids to a private school that emphasizes your beliefs. Don't want your kids indoctrinated in religions you oppose? send them to public, taxpayer funded schools. Except in backwards Louisiana. As you say, a big, obvious middle finger to liberals but also to non Christian families. Not very Christ like.
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Let it play out. The Chinese are never going to admit if there was an actual lab leak. The only way to find out is to let the science play out but we may never know the answer. Moderate confidence may be the best we can do but I'm hopeful we can do better. This is a global endeavor involving the world's best. Given the diversity, openness and skepticism of the scientific community, I don't see a conspiracy to hide the truth happening. Hopefully it will lead to better results for the next pandemic. And there will be one ...