ArdmoreRyno

Okay, then instead, I’ll say most shootings are between minorities in the intercity. You don’t see minority kids in the suburbs shootings each other. Not difficult to put two and two together.

Look up who were involved in all theses “mass shootings”. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting I’m all for finding a way to keep guns out of criminals and seriously mentally ill people’s hands. Private sale backgrounds won’t fix it. That’s what I’m saying. How would guns “dry up”?

As*hole much? I also served. Just be take you served and might have PTSD (a lot of people have it who never served in the military) doesn’t mean you should lose your f’ing rights. Holy chit dude. How many former military shoot up places??? And I’m all for background checks, I’ve done dozens in my life for firearm purchases. It’s not practical to have people who sell or gift firearms to run another background check. You can’t enforce it and yes, criminals have everything to do with my argument. Most shootings are done by gangs/drug deals. Wow dude. PTSD 🤦🏻‍♂️🙄

Because, as I've said in this long thread of posts, CRIMINALS aren't going to do background checks. I know the people I've sold to or given them as gifts. So to answer your question, yes. I'm against ALL background checks. Person to person, private sales, it's not a practical thing. Again, Krazy-8 isn't going to do a background check with his local FFL to sell his Glock to Tuco. And the UHAUL analogy isn't that far off from being relevant. I was in OKC in 1995. I saw the aftermath of what a truck bomb did. The point is, you can't see into the future of what someone 'might' do. Just like a FLL at Academy Sports don't know the future if that person will use it to take their own life 10 years down the road.

There has been people talk about re-evaluating people after buying a firearm years down the road. I haven't heard of many people who ended up with dementia shooting up a place. Not sure how you'd enforce this... that's the biggest argument I've been making. How do you do anything people talk about?

The main source of gun deaths, aside from suicides, are gangs/drugs. Not your neighbor selling to a neighbor or buying their brother in law a 30/30 lever action.

I get what you're saying but there is one difference.... owning a firearm is a constitutional right. Driving is a privilege. You can own as many cars as you like, you don't have to have a DL or have it registered but you have to keep it on your property. Same with firearms.

I don't sell to anyone I don't know. I really don't sell... I've given my father, mother and brother in law gun(s) as gifts. I sold one rifle to a former USMC friend who wanted to do what I do (long range shooting comp). What's to say someone you rented a UHAUL to won't use it as a truck bomb?

Yea, pretty much. I'm also a licensed professional counselor (with a masters in clinical mental health).

AMEN

You didn't address my reply to you. Just threw out the same NRA ***** as you love to do. Not a surprise.

I'd love to see the actual source of this quote... some news conference or press release. What MacFarlane tweeted was this: “I think we’re more interested in the red wave than we are in red flags. Quite honestly, as Republicans .” If he did say that, you can twist that to be on the pro or anti-gun side.

Huh? I'm not selling any of my firearms to those types of people (if I ever did sell them). But I've bought my dad a pistol and a lever action rifle as gifts before. We need to go do MORE background checks? And again, what criminal is going to do that???

So you can't say it again? I didn't want to go through 355 pages of replies.

What "safer gun laws" arey you thinking? You keep posting things without actual answers on what or how. How exactly are you going to "get rid of a lot of guns out there"? Have Tuco and the Salamanca twins turn in their guns after making a nation wide "You criminals who have illegal firearms, you better turn them in!"??

Explain "increased".... And again, I've said this many times, you want the 20 year old single mom who's ex has beat her over and over, to have to WAIT to protect herself? I have two daughters in college in different states (one is in Boston and the other in Oxford, MS), both living off campus. There would be NO way I'd want my girls to wait to be able to protect themselves from someone who has either caused them harm or threatened to cause them harm. And you skipped over the fact, no criminal is doing a background check to buy a firearm from another criminal. Ever.

Would NEVER happen for several reasons. First, most sheriff departments would never do that... where I'm from (Oklahoma) the vast majority of sheriff's wrote letters to newspapers (pretty much said the same thing) that they would never do anything to take away our 2A rights, including confiscation of any firearm. The bigger problem, you could see another civil war with the idea of anyone coming door-to-door to take away the 25-30,000,000 'type of gun' they they deem illegal. MANY people would never hand over their firearms.

That's the thing... what do they want? We already do background checks on all new gun sales. We do background checks on used gun sales coming out of a gun/pawn store (unless it's an antique firearm). The ONLY thing we don't do background checks on is private sales. Me selling my Ruger 10/22 to my neighbor for his kid to learn how to shoot or when I gifted my dad his Mossberg 500 shotgun. I now need to go to a FFL and pay $20 so we can do background checks on these? No thanks. You'll always have criminals buying them off the street from other criminals... they aren't going to drive over to their local FFL (firearms dealer) and go through the background process. Ever. So the idea of "universal background checks" is pointless and moronic. Again, what do you want to do? NO CRIMINAL SELLING OR BUYING A FIREARM IS GOING TO DO A BACKGROUND CHECK. Krazy-8 and Tuco aren't going to meet up at the local Academy to run a 4473 so they can sell their guns to each other. It's just NOT HAPPENING.

We already have background checks for firearms.

But a liberal did it this time so it’s okay.

LOL, bullsh*t The media and left (and many on the right) have zero clue about ballistics. None. I love to read how the AR round “explode” and “fragments” to cause the most damage and now it goes through the wall through another wall and another 🙄😂🤦🏻‍♂️ Wasn’t saying that. I’m saying the guns used were handled by gang members/drug dealers who likely got them illegally. No new gun control law would stop those people.

These are ALL gang shootings. All of them. They don’t care about gun laws or lives.

Im all for the 1A... but Vox is as good as a source for information as the National Enquirer. Would be like me quoting the NRA about guns facts. You’d call BS.

Anyone who quotes, shares or references “Vox” should be banned immediately.