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On 12/2/2021 at 4:15 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Heh. Well, there's a local Italian restaurant in St Louis which serves a pasta they call "The Eviction Notice".
I'd see if they could ship some to Hunter Henry's address, but if I were him I wouldn't eat food sent to me by some rand-o, so....
Good find. That actually looks good.
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Is there a doctor in the house? Anyone know how to induce labor. I have an idea.
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15 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
Why is EJ Gaines not on this list
He's not on any roster. This was a list of Practice Squad players that are available. There's another post for Street FA's.
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Outside of vet street FA's here's Some Ex-Bills on other teams PS may help.
Nickell Robey (Lions) had some promise (mostly as slot/3rd DB)
Lafayette Pitts (Falcons) was coming on strong for awhile in camp.
Kevon Seymour (Ravens) played sparingly in 2016 but is still kicking around the NFL (I'd pass on him)
Breon Borders (Titans). He's been kicked around a few teams, but has some raw talent.
Outsiders we can poach.
Trayvon Henderson (Bengals) showed some flash before his ACL but he's back.
Darquez Denard (Colts - Former 1st Round pick 2014)
Sean Davis (Patriots) was a 2nd round pick of the Steelers and played 5 years for them. A vet with some promise, plus info on NE.
Bryce Thomspon (Saints) Was an up and comer considered a lockdown corner before he got hurt. He's back up and running.
T.J Green (Texans). 6'3" 215 runs a 4.36. Former 2nd rd pick of Colts who has all the physical tools but needs to put it together.
Parry Nickerson (Vikings) Raw speed at 4.32. Great athlete, that needs some work on technique.
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Kirkpatrick was decent for a few years, not sure if he still has it, but why not kick the tires on him and Dunbar. Put them on the PS while we hope the others can step up. Losing TRE is bad, especially with SB aspirations. Tampa Bay will be much tougher matchup now. The rest of the schedule we may slide by, but in the playoffs KC, LA Chargers, even Cinci will prove to be tougher tests. As far as the SB, the NFC is loaded with high octane passing teams. This is a BIG LOSS. Outside of Allen and Diggs, Tre is the MVP.
We really need to start getting more pressure on the QB and hopefully the whole defensive scheme steps up and figures out ways to neutralize #1 WRs.
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12 hours ago, GoBills808 said:
Outside Allen he is the only guy on offense w elite physical tools
I'll say Diggs has them too. Even though it is not outright speed, the way he can jitter and shift and change direction so quickly is elite. He is one of the best route runners in the league and his deceptive eyes, body movement and footwork are elite.
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9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I don't see how you could have a clearer commentary that Breida is able to make some plays work that Singletary and Moss simply can't.
Boom!! That's it right there.
And Daboll and Frazier need to start acting on these match up advantages or disadvantages IN GAME!!! That's what great coaches do. They see where they can get an advantage and USE IT!!! That's why the hated Billy B is so good. By halftime he figures out what is happening on the field and makes those adjustments.
I feel there are times that we should stop this 5 DB back and get Klein on the field with Edmonds and Milano. ( 4-3-4) Klein has good run instincts and people don't blow by him for more yards while he is making a tackle. Watching Johnson holding on while Taylor drags him 3 yds for a first down is not doing it.
We should also get Butler (330) next to Star (310) and move Oliver out or keep him as the 3rd interior on a 5 man front (5-2-4) with the rotational DE's of Groot and Hughes the subbing in Addison and Basham as needed for fresh legs. Sub in Horrible Harry for a few plays if one of the interior DT is tired. If not, keep your best players ON THE FIELD Pushing Obada (265) or Basham (280) inside is a 50-70 lb weight dis-advantage. When defending the run you need to stay stout and not get pushed back. Technique to get in the backfield is only going to cause guys like Taylor and Henry to shift to find the lane, then blow past the. little guys for 8-10 yds or more. The 5-2-4 vs the 4-2-5 is giving up 250-300 lbs across the trench.
If it's a great passing team with 4-5 good WR then go to the 4-2-5 that seems to be so popular, But there is no way this should be our base D all the time.
On offense, get Gabe Davis involved on those beautiful toe tap outs he's so good at. Run the Jet sweeps with McKenzie or Sanders. Get Breida some open space on screens, pitches and RPO's. Now that Stevenson is back, let's see if he can blow past a few people to respect the deep ball.
Move the pocket and let Josh roll out if the OL is having problems. Move him away from the problem spots where we are losing matchups on the OL. Josh doesn't need forever, but he does need at least 2 seconds.
Adding this off-balance will force teams to lay off doubling up on Diggs or playing that soft zone to take away the deep stuff while they smother the crossing routes.
We need to get that unpredictability back on offense, so we aren't relying on Josh have to force himself to try to make plays.
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I like your column and it's spot on. My biggest issue with this game was the inability to adjust the defensive scheme and put some beef up front to stop Taylor. Five 190lb DB's are not going to get it done. The Colts Line pushed back on our 265lb DE's. We need more brute strength on the DL and OL. It's amazing how we though we had so much depth then lose 4 starters and the whole thing goes to hell.
We need to give Breida more touches on offense and have Josh run some RPO's with him. After a hot start, Sanders and Beasley have almost disappeared. We have the guns on offense. We just need to get some push from our OL.
Overall this was a hard game to watch. It was the Titans all over, but with a bunch of turnovers and penalties. That's the difference between a tight win, a shootout loss or a blowout. McKenzie's muff was inexcusable, but strange things happen in bad weather and he should have done everything he could to maintain control while slipping and hold on to that ball.
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10 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:
Game plan something they haven’t seen. Throw some 5-2 at them, blitz the CBs, put Oliver to the strength side as a DE a few times with Harrison and Butler…. But no, 4-2-5 Base Nickel.
Exactly, this lineup is just too small. They constantly get mauled in the run game by good rushing teams. It's so sickening to watch. I knew by the end of the first drive we were going to lose the game. There was no way this team was going to stop Taylor. And they made no adjustments and had no packages to do it. We need a flexible defense that can adjust to any type of offense that is thrown at us.
Why we don't have a few 330+ guys as part of the DT rotation is beyond me. Why we rely on throwing 5 small DB's out there to stop the run is mind-boggling. We don''t need depth to run the same schemes, we need depth to run different schemes and adjust on offense or defense when needed.
Trying to have Josh sling it 25-30 yds hoping to get a big play when he has no time is beyond me. We need to be able to run the damn ball and stop the damn run. We play in Buffalo. Yesterday was the first time in a long time I didn't finish watching the whole game. When they trotted Trubisky out, I hung on to see what he could do. One INT later it was time to get my sanity back.
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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
But these problems won't get fixed until the off season. It's frustrating because we all knew we needed better at RB and OG.
And DT and TE. We really need another Ted Washington, Pat Williams, Fred Smerlas type of DT's who swallows up the middle and don't let anything past them. Star is not it and you can see the difference just having a middle of the road DT does for this defense. Horrible Harry is horrible and I'd rather have Deborah Harry in there.
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Just now, Draconator said:
You know? That's not a bad idea. We have the personnel for that.
We are supposed to be so deep on the line. Why not use it. They might pop a few big plays here and there, but this would limit those 10 yd runs he kept gouging us with and the Colts don't have the horses at WR or TE
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Why not got 5-2-4 in this package and put some size on the field. The only true threat was Taylor and we should have been stout up front to stop him.
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1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said:
We lost to the Jags, why not.🙏
The real question is WHY?
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33 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:
I’m thinking at least two more decades, bro. 😜
I'll take a few more good games. If Breida didn't cough it up, he'd be playing a lot more. Singlemoss is not getting it done. Draft RB and OL early or go get Fournette, Connor, Mostert or Mack but don't overpay.
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5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:
You can understand why these guys why every nickel they can get in their nickel-getting years.
I wants to get me some of 'dem nickels.
5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:You can understand why these guys why every nickel they can get in their nickel-getting years.
I wants to get me some of 'dem nickels.
5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:You can understand why these guys why every nickel they can get in their nickel-getting years.
I wants to get me some of 'dem nickels.
5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:You can understand why these guys why every nickel they can get in their nickel-getting years.
I wants to get me some of 'dem nickels.
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56 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Man his car smelled like weed?
50% of florida should be on a watch list.And 95% of California and Colorado.
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That is not as crazy as it sounds. I kind of like it. Or at least a TE back there. I think Gilliam is a decent blocker and actually has some hands. But the key is to give Josh some time. The other Josh Allen made his life miserable and we had an epic fail. Any team so far with a good front 4 is giving us fits. We need to do something to alleviate the attack.
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On 11/9/2021 at 8:07 AM, SCBills said:
When you break down the OL player by player, it looks better than what we’ve seen as a whole.
When healthy, with Williams and Feliciano at Guard, this OL has potential to be good - especially if they could ever develop some continuity.
Our OL depth is an absolute disaster though. In a perfect world, Feliciano would be a backup, but he’s currently the weak link at starter when healthy. Anything after Feliciano is barely playable at the moment.
TE is an extension of the OL. Knox is fantastic, but again, the depth is brutal. Sweeney is an entire struggle bus out there.To me, as much as I love Feliciano as a person, he has lost a bit since his pec injury. I don't see the same upper body push. A lot of times his legs are holding up but his upper body is getting pushed back. The most obvious was when he drew the hands to the face penalty on a pass play and they showed the replay in slow motion. His feet were planed and he had great technique, but as the DT was pushing and his upper body kept sliding back until the hands that were on Feliciano's chest rolled up to his face mask. I don't think the DT expected his upper body to bend like that.
So where Feliciano used to be a mauler in the run game and Singletary would find nice holes between him and Dawkins, those plays no longer work.
Running to the right side where Brown and Williams switched roles also hasn't worked well because they haven't played together to communicate enough. I think Brown is a mauler and will help, but I'm not sure Williams at RG has long term benefits. You can't run straight up the gut, because Morse is weak, surround by out of place or weak guards.
Boettger is serviceable and I think the line we saw yesterday is our best combo. How they hold up to an elite defense in the playoffs is the real question.
The best thing they did was get Breida involved and spread out the offense, but as we saw, effective as Breida was, he fumbled. This is why he is inactive. A costly fumble in a playoff game is deadly. I've been screaming for Breida all year and when he scored twice, all I could think of is "what the hell is wrong with Daboll and McD keeping him on the bench.
After the fumble I realized this must be his liability and it happens enough in practice to keep him off the field on Sunday.
What SCBills said about TE is spot on too. Would have been good to keep Holiister or even Lee Smith around. Knox stepped up but when he was out, we saw how shallow our depth is.
Every team has some depth issues somewhere and if the starters are hurt, that team can get exposed. With Edmonds and Star out, we still held up pretty well on D. With Brown and Knox out, our offense suffered. It's almost surreal to say that Knox is now a key to our offense, but he just might be.
I would expect to address OL and TE very early in the draft next year.
The good thing I saw yesterday was that the Bills found a mismatch and kept exploiting it. Jets had no one who could come close to guarding Diggs and
Josh kept feeding him. We need more of that. find the mismatch and exploit it. When the defense figures it out, scheme up plays to create the next on. We have enough weapons on offense to do this.
Either way, it was great not to see any resemblance of that J-ville nightmare pop up in this game.
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On 11/9/2021 at 8:07 AM, SCBills said:
When you break down the OL player by player, it looks better than what we’ve seen as a whole.
When healthy, with Williams and Feliciano at Guard, this OL has potential to be good - especially if they could ever develop some continuity.
Our OL depth is an absolute disaster though. In a perfect world, Feliciano would be a backup, but he’s currently the weak link at starter when healthy. Anything after Feliciano is barely playable at the moment.
TE is an extension of the OL. Knox is fantastic, but again, the depth is brutal. Sweeney is an entire struggle bus out there.To me, as much as I love Feliciano as a person, he has lost a bit since his pec injury. I don't see the same upper body push. A lot of times his legs are holding up but his upper body is getting pushed back. The most obvious was when he drew the hands to the face penalty on a pass play and they showed the replay in slow motion. His feet were planed and he had great technique, but as the DT was pushing and his upper body kept sliding back until the hands that were on Feliciano's chest rolled up to his face mask. I don't think the DT expected his upper body to bend like that.
So where Feliciano used to be a mauler in the run game and Singletary would find nice holes between him and Dawkins, those plays no longer work.
Running to the right side where Brown and Williams switched roles also hasn't worked well because they haven't played together to communicate enough. I think Brown is a mauler and will help, but I'm not sure Williams at RG has long term benefits. You can't run straight up the gut, because Morse is weak, surround by out of place or weak guards.
Boettger is serviceable and I think the line we saw yesterday is our best combo. How they hold up to an elite defense in the playoffs is the real question.
The best thing they did was get Breida involved and spread out the offense, but as we saw, effective as Breida was, he fumbled. This is why he is inactive. A costly fumble in a playoff game is deadly. I've been screaming for Breida all year and when he scored twice, all I could think of is "what the hell is wrong with Daboll and McD keeping him on the bench.
After the fumble I realized this must be his liability and it happens enough in practice to keep him off the field on Sunday.
What SCBills said about TE is spot on too. Would have been good to keep Holiister or even Lee Smith around. Knox stepped up but when he was out, we saw how shallow our depth is.
Every team has some depth issues somewhere and if the starters are hurt, that team can get exposed. With Edmonds and Star out, we still held up pretty well on D. With Brown and Knox out, our offense suffered. It's almost surreal to say that Knox is now a key to our offense, but he just might be.
I would expect to address OL and TE very early in the draft next year.
The good thing I saw yesterday was that the Bills found a mismatch and kept exploiting it. Jets had no one who could come close to guarding Diggs and
Josh kept feeding him. We need more of that. find the mismatch and exploit it. When the defense figures it out, scheme up plays to create the next on. We have enough weapons on offense to do this.
Either way, it was great not to see any resemblance of that J-ville nightmare pop up in this game.
On 11/9/2021 at 8:07 AM, SCBills said:When you break down the OL player by player, it looks better than what we’ve seen as a whole.
When healthy, with Williams and Feliciano at Guard, this OL has potential to be good - especially if they could ever develop some continuity.
Our OL depth is an absolute disaster though. In a perfect world, Feliciano would be a backup, but he’s currently the weak link at starter when healthy. Anything after Feliciano is barely playable at the moment.
TE is an extension of the OL. Knox is fantastic, but again, the depth is brutal. Sweeney is an entire struggle bus out there.To me, as much as I love Feliciano as a person, he has lost a bit since his pec injury. I don't see the same upper body push. A lot of times his legs are holding up but his upper body is getting pushed back. The most obvious was when he drew the hands to the face penalty on a pass play and they showed the replay in slow motion. His feet were planed and he had great technique, but as the DT was pushing and his upper body kept sliding back until the hands that were on Feliciano's chest rolled up to his face mask. I don't think the DT expected his upper body to bend like that.
So where Feliciano used to be a mauler in the run game and Singletary would find nice holes between him and Dawkins, those plays no longer work.
Running to the right side where Brown and Williams switched roles also hasn't worked well because they haven't played together to communicate enough. I think Brown is a mauler and will help, but I'm not sure Williams at RG has long term benefits. You can't run straight up the gut, because Morse is weak, surround by out of place or weak guards.
Boettger is serviceable and I think the line we saw yesterday is our best combo. How they hold up to an elite defense in the playoffs is the real question.
The best thing they did was get Breida involved and spread out the offense, but as we saw, effective as Breida was, he fumbled. This is why he is inactive. A costly fumble in a playoff game is deadly. I've been screaming for Breida all year and when he scored twice, all I could think of is "what the hell is wrong with Daboll and McD keeping him on the bench.
After the fumble I realized this must be his liability and it happens enough in practice to keep him off the field on Sunday.
What SCBills said about TE is spot on too. Would have been good to keep Holiister or even Lee Smith around. Knox stepped up but when he was out, we saw how shallow our depth is.
Every team has some depth issues somewhere and if the starters are hurt, that team can get exposed. With Edmonds and Star out, we still held up pretty well on D. With Brown and Knox out, our offense suffered. It's almost surreal to say that Knox is now a key to our offense, but he just might be.
I would expect to address OL and TE very early in the draft next year.
The good thing I saw yesterday was that the Bills found a mismatch and kept exploiting it. Jets had no one who could come close to guarding Diggs and
Josh kept feeding him. We need more of that. find the mismatch and exploit it. When the defense figures it out, scheme up plays to create the next on. We have enough weapons on offense to do this.
Either way, it was great not to see any resemblance of that J-ville nightmare pop up in this game.
On 11/9/2021 at 8:07 AM, SCBills said:When you break down the OL player by player, it looks better than what we’ve seen as a whole.
When healthy, with Williams and Feliciano at Guard, this OL has potential to be good - especially if they could ever develop some continuity.
Our OL depth is an absolute disaster though. In a perfect world, Feliciano would be a backup, but he’s currently the weak link at starter when healthy. Anything after Feliciano is barely playable at the moment.
TE is an extension of the OL. Knox is fantastic, but again, the depth is brutal. Sweeney is an entire struggle bus out there.To me, as much as I love Feliciano as a person, he has lost a bit since his pec injury. I don't see the same upper body push. A lot of times his legs are holding up but his upper body is getting pushed back. The most obvious was when he drew the hands to the face penalty on a pass play and they showed the replay in slow motion. His feet were planed and he had great technique, but as the DT was pushing and his upper body kept sliding back until the hands that were on Feliciano's chest rolled up to his face mask. I don't think the DT expected his upper body to bend like that.
So where Feliciano used to be a mauler in the run game and Singletary would find nice holes between him and Dawkins, those plays no longer work.
Running to the right side where Brown and Williams switched roles also hasn't worked well because they haven't played together to communicate enough. I think Brown is a mauler and will help, but I'm not sure Williams at RG has long term benefits. You can't run straight up the gut, because Morse is weak, surround by out of place or weak guards.
Boettger is serviceable and I think the line we saw yesterday is our best combo. How they hold up to an elite defense in the playoffs is the real question.
The best thing they did was get Breida involved and spread out the offense, but as we saw, effective as Breida was, he fumbled. This is why he is inactive. A costly fumble in a playoff game is deadly. I've been screaming for Breida all year and when he scored twice, all I could think of is "what the hell is wrong with Daboll and McD keeping him on the bench.
After the fumble I realized this must be his liability and it happens enough in practice to keep him off the field on Sunday.
What SCBills said about TE is spot on too. Would have been good to keep Holiister or even Lee Smith around. Knox stepped up but when he was out, we saw how shallow our depth is.
Every team has some depth issues somewhere and if the starters are hurt, that team can get exposed. With Edmonds and Star out, we still held up pretty well on D. With Brown and Knox out, our offense suffered. It's almost surreal to say that Knox is now a key to our offense, but he just might be.
I would expect to address OL and TE very early in the draft next year.
The good thing I saw yesterday was that the Bills found a mismatch and kept exploiting it. Jets had no one who could come close to guarding Diggs and
Josh kept feeding him. We need more of that. find the mismatch and exploit it. When the defense figures it out, scheme up plays to create the next on. We have enough weapons on offense to do this.
Either way, it was great not to see any resemblance of that J-ville nightmare pop up in this game.
On 11/9/2021 at 8:07 AM, SCBills said:When you break down the OL player by player, it looks better than what we’ve seen as a whole.
When healthy, with Williams and Feliciano at Guard, this OL has potential to be good - especially if they could ever develop some continuity.
Our OL depth is an absolute disaster though. In a perfect world, Feliciano would be a backup, but he’s currently the weak link at starter when healthy. Anything after Feliciano is barely playable at the moment.
TE is an extension of the OL. Knox is fantastic, but again, the depth is brutal. Sweeney is an entire struggle bus out there.To me, as much as I love Feliciano as a person, he has lost a bit since his pec injury. I don't see the same upper body push. A lot of times his legs are holding up but his upper body is getting pushed back. The most obvious was when he drew the hands to the face penalty on a pass play and they showed the replay in slow motion. His feet were planed and he had great technique, but as the DT was pushing and his upper body kept sliding back until the hands that were on Feliciano's chest rolled up to his face mask. I don't think the DT expected his upper body to bend like that.
So where Feliciano used to be a mauler in the run game and Singletary would find nice holes between him and Dawkins, those plays no longer work.
Running to the right side where Brown and Williams switched roles also hasn't worked well because they haven't played together to communicate enough. I think Brown is a mauler and will help, but I'm not sure Williams at RG has long term benefits. You can't run straight up the gut, because Morse is weak, surround by out of place or weak guards.
Boettger is serviceable and I think the line we saw yesterday is our best combo. How they hold up to an elite defense in the playoffs is the real question.
The best thing they did was get Breida involved and spread out the offense, but as we saw, effective as Breida was, he fumbled. This is why he is inactive. A costly fumble in a playoff game is deadly. I've been screaming for Breida all year and when he scored twice, all I could think of is "what the hell is wrong with Daboll and McD keeping him on the bench.
After the fumble I realized this must be his liability and it happens enough in practice to keep him off the field on Sunday.
What SCBills said about TE is spot on too. Would have been good to keep Holiister or even Lee Smith around. Knox stepped up but when he was out, we saw how shallow our depth is.
Every team has some depth issues somewhere and if the starters are hurt, that team can get exposed. With Edmonds and Star out, we still held up pretty well on D. With Brown and Knox out, our offense suffered. It's almost surreal to say that Knox is now a key to our offense, but he just might be.
I would expect to address OL and TE very early in the draft next year.
The good thing I saw yesterday was that the Bills found a mismatch and kept exploiting it. Jets had no one who could come close to guarding Diggs and
Josh kept feeding him. We need more of that. find the mismatch and exploit it. When the defense figures it out, scheme up plays to create the next on. We have enough weapons on offense to do this.
Either way, it was great not to see any resemblance of that J-ville nightmare pop up in this game.
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Agree 100% Great draft pick.
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7 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:
This dude sat out a year and then didn't get vaccinated? How backwards is that. Good lord
Ask Aaron Rodgers.
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Here's the crazy part about RB's. The true lead RB's outside of Henry are multi-dimensional weapons that rack up all-purpose yards and scores. They are heavily involved in the pass game. Patterson in ATL is a WR who is being effectively used as an RB. For years Kamara and McCaffrey excelled at catching passes and running to keep a defense off its feet. Add Swift and Ekeler into the group of RB's with 5-6+ rec a game for 50+ yds in addition to running for 60+
Gaskin, Harris and Edmonds have 30+ catches .
Carter, Hines, Drake, Davis, Taylor, David Johnson, Elliot, Mixon, Bolden Javonte and Darrel Williams all have 20+REC and are all ahead of Singletary's 21.
I could go on with more #2 backs that have more catches before we get to Moss with 18.
We need to get our RB's some space with passes. It seemed to be effective when they finally went to Singletary toward the end of the game. But then Josh fumbled.
Daboll needs to start scheming up better matchups to use our RB's and take away the cover #2.
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2 hours ago, Gene1973 said:
Been saying this a while, wanted them to draft one in at least the 2nd round. But, Beane knows best and the Bills look like crap.
Najee Harris is making an impact in Pittsburg and keeping the ghost of Big Ben alive. You can't plug and play late 3rd rounders and hope they become great lead backs.
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54 minutes ago, Billever76 said:
Every team has a position it lacks depth in...Bills just happen to be offensive line...we def should have upgraded oline some this past offseason
They tried with the draft with Brown, Doyle and Anderson. Brown may turn out fine. Jury is out on Doyle (he's big though) and Anderson is gone.
They tried in FA with Hart, Douglas and Lamp. Lamp was actually good with the Chargers. Hart was a major disappointment and Douglas just got called up.
They resigned Feliciano, Boettger and Williams to keep continuity.They even addressed the rest of the offense with Trubisky, Sanders and Breida to create upgrades from last year.
The front office made an effort to strengthen a unit that wasn't terrible in 2020. But I think the film caught up with Daboll and defensive coordinators figured out his strategies. Some injuries on the OL exposed further weakness and we haven't figured out a way to counterpunch the last 3 games.
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What makes a team "physical?"
in The Stadium Wall
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I think it comes down to using that stupid 4-2-5 against big running teams when we are getting gouged. We get outweighed and outmuscled running 5 db's and a light D line. I think Ankou helped a bit last week. He and Star are big guys. Throw in Butler in the rotation and we're not so soft down the middle. I'd like to see 5 DL sometimes against these run heavy teams like Tenn and Indy, maybe NE.
Our OL injuries exposed more of a lack of talent then toughness. Ford is tough, but not good. Dawkins is still recovering and lost body strength. Feliciano has half a pec and half a calf. Brown is a big, tough dude. Morse is smart, just not strong. He doesn't lack for effort. Williams is a big dude with average talent. When everyone is healthy it's a little better, but we can use some maulers at G next year.