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2 hours ago, Dr. K said:
If the Colts win out, that means they must beat the Patriots. If the Bills lose to Tampa Bay but win out after that that means they also beat the Patriots. Therefore the Bills would win the division over the Pats because of their better division record.
If the Colts lose to the Pats, but the Bills go 4-1 with a win over the Pats, the Bills finish second in the East, but still are in the playoffs.
If the Bills go 4-1, with the only loss being to the Bucs, they are in regardless of what anybody else does.
I think we'll know pretty much everything by next Monday morning, so not long to wait. If we play well today and win next week, that's a step in the right direction. If Indy wins, another strep in the right direction and the future looks bright. However, if NE goes to Indy and wins.... I think they win out. The implications from that are what the NFL league office and media want, Tom vs Hoodie for all the marbles. The media is already buzzing over the idea.
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Bills control their own destiny if they can figure out how to control the line of scrimmage. It's that simple, and that's what great teams do this time of year.
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19 minutes ago, MJS said:
Exactly. Teams are treating a game against the Bills like a playoff game, and celebrating it like a Superbowl win.
The Bills were clearly not ready for the increase in intensity that opponents are bringing them this year.
Hopefully, this is valuable experience for the future. You can't just get to the top. You have to consistently earn your spot there. Fight and claw your way back up.
It makes what the Patriots did over the last couple of decades that much more impressive. Every opponent they faces brought their all, and the Patriots still clawed out victory after victory. Bills aren't there yet, but they can get there.
Seems we lack that "veteran leadership" in players AND coaches. We need a few key people that have "been there".
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To be somewhat original I think it should be something to do with a Buffalo stampede. A horn, a rumbling, literally a stampede noise?
The train horn is so unoriginal its embarrassing. The Giants/Jets signal its 3rd down and to get loud, Den has a Bronco neighing, NE has a lighthouse with thunder lightning and a fog horn (very original) and I have no idea what Miami has, maybe some Dolphin noises from Sea World? lol
My favorite is the Viking horn that Minnesota has, very original.
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You don't follow trends, you don't try to set trends...you build your team to beat your division rivals. You steal their players and assistants when you can.
That's what Bill Parcells did, that's what Belichick does, and it works. They build from the inside out and control the line of scrimmage, seems like everything else just works out from there.
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3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
222 rushing yards sounds bad because it is bad. Teams lose 85%+ of the time when allowing that many rushing yards.
In the last 3 extreme weather games in Buffalo (Ravens playoff game and Colts snow game) the 14 points that the Patriots offense scored is the most by any offense
Exactly... They ran 40+ times and score on long drives without passing, meaning we knew what was coming and still couldn't handle it. Sure, we did hold them quite a few times, knowing full well what was coming. Great, they did their job more often than not... If we ran every play, do you think we could have done what they did? nope
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Sure, ignore the NE muffed punt return that gave us the ball practically at the goal line, the wind effecting the punter's drop on the punt resulting in a 20 yard kick, a ticky tack PI penalty that helped us, ignore we didn't force a turnover, ignore that JC Jackson dropped an int on a pass intended for Diggs, etc.
You must be the same guys from over the summer that said 13-3 is our floor and 7-9 is their ceiling. Take off the rose colored glasses.... Good teams find a way to win and do it consistently, thats a fact.
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48 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:
NE isn't going anywhere this year.
So they said here all summer.... lol
We were supposed to be headed for a 17-0 season and home field on the way to our first of many SBs. Who was going to stop us?
NE can likely get a home playoff game, win that, and then.... who knows, but their undefeated on the road this year.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
which high powered passing attacks have been dominating the league this year? Not one…..except maybe the GOAT. But he has a monster OL and very good backs to lean onNo teams have been dominant this year, kind of an odd season in that regard. There's still plenty of potent passing teams though, couple QB's on pace for 5k yards and/or 40+ TDs.
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2 minutes ago, Success said:
The way the Pats are constructed will only work for them in some games. I know that they have a 7-game win streak going - but I don't think they're built to go on a playoff run.
KC will likely STILL be the team to beat next month. It's easy to fault the team construction after last night - but let's see how it plays out from here.
Their Defense, Special Teams, and running game are all built for just about anything or anyone. Their only weakness is or at least suspect weakness is the passing game. They haven't had to rely on it yet, so we don't really know.
2 minutes ago, NewEra said:I agree with this 💯
I know its a trend league, but Hoodie has been doing the same thing for 35 years.
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1 minute ago, I am the egg man said:
The Bills are simply not as good as everyone thought they’d would be.
Most everyone believed the preseason hype.
It’s not refs or couple missed plays in games, they’re not a top tier team.
True, I tried to be reasonable this past summer, but I was treated like a heretic here. Pretending that 13-3 was our birthright and floor for this season, and NE's ceiling was 8-9 wins just seemed worse than Homerism. Here we are, more or less where I expected to be, maybe a bit worse.
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We may still win the division, they have the Colts, us and the somehow resurgent Dolphins yet to play.
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I have no doubt the next meeting will not resemble this one at all, but I would venture a guess that they build off of it while our coaching staff tries to replay it.
Now that they ran on us, I expect play action and Jones to be a factor next time out.
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So we're overlooking that N'Keal Harry gaff on the punt return that gifted us our only TD? Their defense SHUT US DOWN. How the F do you overlook the blatantly obvious??? We scored a FG.
Our QB1 and WR1 are way more talented than theirs, but they are more talented at every other position group, especially in the trenches, and it showed.
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Just now, Bruce Smith said:
Bills need to get a run game too. This game really highlighted this.
Same as last year.... They tried to go cheap, doesn't work.
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This is a classic pivot point in the season. A win and we're headed in the right direction with confidence and swagger, a loss and this season's hopes are very much dimmed. Taken in context, a win for NE puts them in the driver's seat for the whole Conference which is also very bad for us.
Realistically I think we win tonight, then lose to the Bucs and at NE, but win the rest. I think they lose tonight and to the Colts or Dolphins, end up 11-6 as a WC in the playoffs. We win the Div, get a home playoff game.
We arrive at the classic intersection in the road tonight, its huge.
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The Red Sox are kings in Boston, but from what I see in the rest of New England (all six states) is way more Patriots influence. The state of Maine seems to be pretty pro-Patriot, with Red Sox and a little basketball and hockey in there, but mostly Patriots. Same thing in Burlington VT and a few other places I frequent in that region. Boston is about 50% of New England's almost 15 million people, but the Patriots are popular all over and not just Boston.
Its like the Bills in WNY, only across 6 states.
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I don't think there will be that many, maybe 10% of the stadium at best. They do have a huge fan base, but I don't recall seeing a ton of them ever. I've been to Gillette, and they're actually pretty tame there too.
I have no idea why anybody would want to fight fans of another team... wtf is that. If I saw that, I'm on the side of the victim, colors don't mean sh't. That hoodlum BS doesn't represent my town. Calling fans cheaters? again, wtf is that.
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Wait.... The fans are cheaters? LMAO
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45 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:
Definitely need to pressure Mack Jones. He is not elusive in the slightest. Blitz hard from the outside like we did against Tua. And do not let him escape up the middle. Even though the Pats beat the Falcons 26-0, when the Falcons blitzed, Jones was a deer in headlights.
Went to Youtube to see about the blitz from the outside, looks like a legit observation:
He seemed to pick up the blitz well a few times and get the ball out quick, others when he was flat footed, he just folds up quick.
What cracks me up is if you blur out the faces with him and Brady and ask uninformed people to pick which dude is 44, I bet they'd pick Jones. lol
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7 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:
As long as we keep racking up the penalties, we lose!!
On the season we statistically have something like an average of 1.5 to 2 more a game than they do and more yards. That will probably show up somehow.
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I looked at their forum site, they have one thread about the Bills.
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16 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Dude, it’s “on you” to make a good argument and state it clearly. If your argument is that their LBs have been playing lights-out this season and have a lot of experience in this system, that’s fine - but that’s not what you said (or reiterated above, in the form of “all the hardware on their fingers” - as someone on the SB years Steelers said “take those off and put them on the shelf, boys, they won’t help us this year”)
AS far as “number one scoring defense”, the Patriots are allowing an average of 15.3 PPG after today. The Bills are allowing an average of 15.2 PPG. 🤷♂️
I’m puzzled by the reference to “individual stats”, since I did not mention individual stats. Is this a pure straw man, or are you responding to someone else without the extra work of quoting them?
Defensive PPG, unless I'm missing something: https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/team-stats?season=2021&category=defense
Their Defense has been outstanding the last 2 months, they have players with fat resume's, lots of hardware, etc. that have been leading the way. What I stated above involves a fair amount of implied information that anyone watching the sport and knowledgeable would acknowledge, rather than ask for it to be stated.... So dude, that part is "on you". This is overly common on message boards, I prefer face to face over wings and beers.
Cheers
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45 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
The Patriots have been playing good D, but C’mon man.
We all know that a player’s experience and playoff experience in the past do not mean marvelous play this season. Bad argument.
Bad take on my argument. This season their LB's have been turning in "marvelous" play and a lot of that has to do with experience in general, and experience in that particular system. They have the number one scoring defense and just held a quality opponent to under their season average which dropped it a little more.
Add Judon to the other 3 guys with all the hardware on their fingers and you have one of the best LB units in the game. It's not a mystery why they were great in 2018, 2019, sucked in 2020, now they're great again with all those guys back in the fold. Track record speaks for itself, not the individual stats, that team doesn't work like that.
Bills opponents called for defensive holding only twice all year on more than 500 dropbacks. How is this even possible?
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The stats include TEs, and you have to consider that they run a totally different passing offense. I have to wonder if all of that play action they run has an effect on whether or not DB's have that "oh sh't" factor and grab the receiver after falling for the fake. Just postulating, but I think that may play a significant role.