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I’m not quite sure what your point is here. Yes, Josh Allen has the 2nd most picks right now - unless it’s the 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th. Know who else that could be said of? Pat Mahomes and Jalen Hurts. Tua and Stafford are 1 pick behind. Looked at as a % Allen is 7th. tied with Jalen Hurts and 0.2% worse than Pat Mahomes and Tua. Guess who is #3 in TD thrown, 1 TD behind Tua and 2 ahead of Mahomes. Maybe….the league’s top QB who throw a lot of TD and just generally throw a lot, also throw a lot of picks? Just a thought

It was DH by rule, yes. As the announcers commented, you see that kind of thing a lot and it isn’t always called.

It wasn’t PI, it was DH. That’s why it was still DH even though the ball was tipped

He needs a better clock. Needs to get the ball out on time. DANG I wish we had D Hop, not sure any of our receivers haul that high pass in much less get some YAC

I think you need enough ganja to buy some vowels

We may have been trying, he may have wanted more than Beane was willing to part with, or negotiating with several teams, or maybe Beane hoped Settle would step up

DaQuan Jones approves this message From what I gather, teams have been making him offers, he didn't bite. My opinion, he knows he doesn't have a full season in him, and it worked for him last year to sit home and wait until a contender came calling in November. Hopefully it will work for him again. PS he was signed by the Eagles on Nov 16, and started Nov 20 against Indy.

McKenzie said some stuff about that One reason the Bills decided to move on from him IMHO One dude who got cut not too long thereafter is not "some of the players".

Well first of all, there's a lot of noise in DUI, malpractice cases, and so forth to say Dr David Chao is not an upright person nor as a physician, following best practices and the highest standards. But, he was a Chargers team physician for decades, so he has a strong grasp on what injuries are likely to occur in different scenarios where limbs are bent different ways, and what the typical timeline for recovery of those typical injuries might be. There are some things, like the fluttering calf, that speak pretty clearly to a specific injury like Achilles. When Josh Allen was injured his rookie year there was film of him being examined on the sideline by a trainer using a procedure called the "milking maneuver" and having a very strong reaction, which is indicative of a UCL injury. It would be awful for him to do this if he were actually "putting hands on a patient" and part of their treatment team, but I don't see what makes Chao more of a "w-h-o-r-e" for accepting money someone is willing to pay him for using his experience and expertise as a former NFL team physician to predict injuries and their likely recovery timeline. And I say that as someone who obviously, does not have a high opinion of Dr Chao based on his public record of DUI, misprescribing drugs, and patients suing him for malpractice. I heard debate on that point. We've all seen some cases where a QB tried to play through injuries instead of being shut down and it had a negative impact on his career. Allen himself acknowledged that he wasn't able to use his normal throwing motion for weeks but instead reverted to one he'd used earlier in his career when his accuracy was less. That implies to me he wasn't "throwing the ball just fine" There isn't a body part or parts on the team that's more important to "get right" than those the starting QB uses to throw.

Oh, whups! I thought we were talking about Dr David Chao You know, This Guy https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/04/30/chargers-doctor-david-chao-accused-gros-engligence-treatment-junior-seau/83777186/ https://consumerwatchdog.org/uncategorized/report-dui-football-doctor-responsible-death-chargers-star-seau/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/polar-care-500-david-chao-breg-international-jury-award/1929962/ And that's just 5 minutes work If he's still a member of the NFL Physicians Society that may not be a credit to that organization

1) It was mentioned that he had "tweaked" his ankle earlier in the season, but he's been on the injury report the previous 2 weeks 2) No information on this point 3) No. But since mid-season, most players are dealing with some kind of ding or tweak, almost any player can be added to IR with a genuine injury.

On LB, I think we have what we have. I think the Bills feel the strategy of platooning Dodson and Poyer as a "dime" backer will get them through. They may also have hopes that Williams will continue to improve. Offensive weapon, we picked up Fournette. He had 523 receiving yards and 73 receptions on 83 targets last season, of which 563 were YAC (nope not a typo)

He managed 10 consecutive games for the Eagles last season. 18-61% of the snaps.

I'd worry about that couch thing more, but Joseph pretty much did the same thing with the Eagles last season - signed actually mid-November after the Eagles had 2 DTs on injured reserve - and it worked out very well for them. He went hard, especially in the NFCCG. I think at 34 now 35, Joseph still loves football but knows his body can't handle the rigors of a full season. Hopefully the Bills verified that he's in some kind of 'good shape' (for a DT)

Unless I'm much mistaken, pass rush isn't so much what's wanted from the 1TDT in McD's defense. That DaQuan was doing his job AND generating some stats (tackles, sacks) was gravy. Keep the backers clean and get some push up the middle against the pass, clog up blockers

Wait, are you saying he doesn't sound like that Alanis Morrissette song after a win and during the off-season?

I don't know of any verified specifics about the injury. But I don't think you can assume there is no knee or soft tissue injury, simply because there isn't any "official" mention. The player is under no obligation to disclose specifics of his injury other than broken leg, going on IR. I'm not sure exactly where you read exactly what, but the 8-12 weeks is for the bone itself to form new bone, called "hard callus", bridging the broken pieces (but has some differences from normal bone). After that, bone repair is still underway in the form of bone remodeling to return the bone to its original shape. During the healing process, there's usually a period of time where weight bearing should not occur, because movement of the bone fragments can hinder healing. If it's true Milano had a tibeal plateau fracture. Google this and it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see this non-weight-bearing phase may be especially important because the tibeal plateau is one of the surfaces of the knee joint, and any disunion or displacement there would be ultra bad news for knee mobility and stability. So after there's a no mobility/no weight bearing period of time, there's a need to regain mobility, flexibility, and strength, not just overall but in all the little stabilizer muscles that you can't activate while you're not weight bearing lest you tug the bone fragments out of place. I don't think that's included in your "8-12 week FULL recovery period", which is just the usual time for initial bone repair to take place. Whether or not Milano and Jones could be back before Week 18, the Bills have to get to the end of the season with a good enough record for their return to matter eg, a good enough record to make the playoffs.

@HappyDays has a source. He doesn't always hear stuff (nothing about the realities of Allen's shoulder or Milano's knee) but on other occasions he's been proven right. For example his source said that Knox had a torn tendon and possibly a cracked bone in his wrist after Jax, even though he was "questionable" for the next game and no game designation the following game. Then he was "out" week 8 and went on IR, and we heard he had surgery on his wrist. So if he hears something, it's generally considered credible.

*chef's kiss* to your Good Gravy!

Oh, Gee. Another DT who "Washington was thrilled" about......*shudder* (thinking of Settle, who Washington fans were apparently upset we signed away)

Agree on Settle. Also Poona Ford. I thought Phillips had been playing better, more disciplined football this season and doing well. Not playing lights-out like Ed Oliver, but less stat-chasing and more gap integrity. The reason Phillips wasn't a good run defender during his first stint here was that he was chasing stats and would penetrate and try for a sack at the expense of minding his gap against the run and doing his part to keep the LB's clean. He seemed to have "straightened up" this year (did it some last year - was one memorable game where Edmunds could be seen/heard chewing him out) What do you see that says he is washed?

With all respect, That's Football. To my understanding, by midseason the training room is full of players who may or may not be listed on the injury report (depending upon whether they are able to complete 100% of all aspects of practice), but who have low-level injuries that are being treated and would be improved by a couple weeks of rest. Beane is going to have to IR or cut someone to add a DT to the roster. Just like injured rookies who would probably play through if they'd earned a starting slot get IR'd, a guy who is being treated and is on the lower edge of the depth chart is a candidate. Beane didn't say "shut down for the year", he said "shut down" meaning go on IR. Could be designated to return any time after 4 games.

I sit corrected. Thanks! I was relying on PFR's injury report which collates, and didn't have him. Me bad - I know it isn't always accurate. But he was "FP" before Thursday's game and Beane made it sound (to me) like it was an ongoing thing.

Well, he hasn't been listed on injury report, would be one reason why it's not been considered. There has been talk that he has an ankle injury, but I left Beane's presser with the impression that the ankle may be hampering Elam, but if his level of play were where they want it to be, he and his ankle would be "out there" - but it's not so he isn't. I seem to remember a similar situation with Harrison Phillips, where he wasn't on injury report with his knee, but he wasn't playing effectively either and thus a healthy scratch in some games. Our media were all over "oh, gonna be traded" but he wasn't; he was inactive for 4 games (sandwiched by a game where he played, maybe as a test?), played increasing snaps to close out the season, and then played more than half the snaps in 14 games the following year. (We didn't re-sign him though, obviously) The use of the word "instinctive" in football, and specifically by Beane in this presser, interests me. It's by context, not the way we 'civilians' use the word. To me, and most of the people I know, "instinctive" is something that reflects an inborn or innate behavior in response to certain stimuli. As in this Brittanica definition. According to this definition, instincts are something you either have or you don't; if you don't, you're not going to develop them. Beane described Rasul Douglas as "instinctive". But he also described Douglas, who played 3 years for Philly then a year for Carolina, as having "things not go his way" (or words to that effect) then having the lightbulb go on for him in GB (in his 5th year). So evidently in the context of football, "instinct" is a trait a player can develop over time. Beane seems to use it as being able to 'see and react' without needing to consciously diagnose, and in particular as being able to 'see and react' to play variants that weren't covered by the coaches in game prep meetings - apparently having a deep enough understanding of the offensive play design and the defensive coverage that even if the offensive play is a variation, he can pattern-match and react appropriately to that variation. I would say that by this definition, Poyer and Hyde are 100% "instinctive" players, Benford and Bernard are either 'instinctive" or well on their way, Dorian Williams is "progressing but not there yet", and by inference, Elam is not instinctive - but, unlike what I would mean by instinct (you have 'em, or you don't), instinct is something that players can develop. Or not. But we really don't want to wait 3 years to get some use from a 1st round pick, that may not be a "bust" by my definition, but it's not a successful pick, either.

OK, so someone is trolling for clicks. Everybody stand down.