Billy Claude
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I assume this leak must have come from the someone in the Patriots organization. I never remember anything like this when Bellichek was in charge.
Definitely a sign of a poorly run organization if these types of leaks continue (see Whaley, Doug).
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4 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
They likely gave Allen a list of WRs they had high grades on and told him to watch their games and pick one he'd like to work with. Obviously we did not have Worthy graded that high.
I agree that they probably prepared some stuff for Allen to look at but I would hope that they asked him to pick 6 or 7 that he would like to work with and not one.
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9 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I guess this depends on the definition of low-floor. There's plenty of WRs that come out every year that have nothing to fall back on if they struggle to get open in the NFL and end up washing out of the league very quickly. In the very least, Coleman's run blocking and red zone ability should keep him on NFL rosters for a long time. The key with Coleman IMO is that he's a raw prospect but because of the run blocking and contested catch ability, he should be able to make an impact right away while he hopefully learns the finer points of the game and continues to ascend.
I am sure you are right that he can contribute in that manner. What you described seems to be a low floor to me for a draft pick at the top of the second round.
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After watching that video, the answer to the OP's question appears to be "Fact: Keon Coleman is not a separator". He is covered pretty tightly on almost every pass. Some of it might be due to poor QB play but definitely not all it.
The more important question is can he become a separator with better coaching. I assume moving from school to school and changing coachng staffs didn't help but sometimes Beane is unduly confident in what the coaching staff can do.
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8 hours ago, Bruffalo said:
You don’t want your all star QB to give feedback on what receivers he thinks would make him the most successful? You think it’s so bad, in fact, that the GM should be fired for listening to his most valuable asset?
Sorry, I just don’t see the logic.
The scouts spent hours and hours evaluating each player, watching tape, interviewing the player, talking to their coaches, looking at combine data, discussing the player with each other, comparing the player to other players etc.
How much time did you think Allen spent on this? They probably gave him 10 minute highlight video and a one page summary of seven or eight guys and asked him for his impressions. Maybe a three hours altogether tops. He was probably okay with most of them since it is hard for me to believe that Bills scouts wouldn't be able to rule out guys that definitely won't be a fit with their QB.
Do you get feedback from your franchise QB? Sure, but I definitely hope that they didn't decide on passing over Worthy and Legette because Allen was banging the table for Coleman. That is not Allen's job. My guess is that he would have also been perfectly okay with Worthy and Legette and the "Allen wanted Coleman" business is just a bit of stupid but relatively harmless PR.
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2 hours ago, Bruffalo said:
This is where I'm at with the pick. It seems like Allen had a lot of influence on who he thought would fit best into this new Brady offense, so I'm going to defer to him and trust that they've made a good decision.
Time will tell but I can't pretend to know better than Josh freakin' Allen about WRs.
I certainly hope that Allen was not involved in this pick. That is not his job. If the Bills picked Coleman because Allen wanted him then Beane definitely needs to be fired. My guess is that the involvement by Allen was prefunctory, sort of like King Charles officially has to approve all legislation before it becomes law.
Coleman fits the high ceiling low floor profile of most early round Beane picks. Except for the 40 time, he is a freakish athlete whose college stats are not super impressive. Examples include Allen, Edmunds, Brown, Knox, Elam, and Rousseau. They are betting on that can teach him to separate in the pros. Hopefully they are right.
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No to more Jets oline rejects. Every one the Bills havehad has been beyond terrible.
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29 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
You have a QB that's a Maserati. He's built for bombs away. But instead of building your offense for that, you build it for plodding, 10 yards at a time max, 10 minute drive offense. So I ask, what is the point?
What's the point of having a guy who's designed by nature to bomb the football deep and whose weakness is dink and dunk stuck in an offensive scheme that is built to do just that?
Why not offload him for someone who's better suited for that kind of thing if you refuse to play to his strengths? That's what I can't wrap my head around. It makes no sense.
I do worry that the front office is not paying to Allen's strengths. Allen does not like the short game. He loses patience with it too easily. It also requires a lot of pre-snap reads and ball placement which not his forte. Allen displayed more patience at the end of last season, maybe he will keep it up.
However, Allen is also not great at the long bombs. Yes, you can find instance of crucial drops but it is not all the receivers fault. He just doesn't put enough air under the ball. In any case long bombs is not a strategy any team can rely on consistently.
What Allen is great at is the intermediate 10 to 25 yard pass. Until recently Diggs had been pivotal in that role. Hopefully they have a replacement. It is certainly not clear that is the case.
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2 hours ago, Sweats said:
Yes sir.
They are trying to own the middle of the field......create mismatch nightmares and rely on YAC......more like death by a thousand cuts.
Aren't these the things that Josh Allen is not very good at? Are they trying to fit a square peg into a round hole? This is what is puzzling to me. It was like when Dennison came in and decided to run the WCO with Tyrod Taylor.
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2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I would say this aged pretty well and I was pretty spot on. And here is Beane basically echoing the same things tonight after round 1 where he said he never even tried to trade up and no one called him either to try and initiate us to trade up. He even directly references wanting to get a 3rd back as I mentioned above and how now we have pick 95 and the pick we gave up for Rasul was like pick 91, so we essentially got that pick back.
Like I keep saying, all you have to do is listen to Beane and pay attention, he is about as straight forward as they come. Or don't and rely on bogus twitter nonsense designed to create buzz and clicks...but I think you will find Beanes own words to be more accurate than anything on social media.
Agree. Beane usually gives you a good idea of the broad strokes of his thinking and very rarely tells an outright lie. Definitely much less likely to tell a bald face lie than other GMs. The only exception I can think of is the Kair Elam year when he claimed the Bills were not lasered focused on a CB when they clearly were.
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53 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
They were better in 2022 than in 2021, actually. The only difference in outcome is that they won an extremely close game vs KC in the AFCCG in January 2022 and lost an extremely close game in the AFCCG in January 2023 (on a personal foul call, of all things).
The Bengals were incredibly lucky in 2021. Every Bengal playoff game was incredibly close. In the wild-card game, the Raiders had three shots at tying (or winning) the game from the Bengals 9-yard line with 30 seconds left. In the divisional game against the Titans, Tannehill threw two 4th quarter interceptions including one with 40 seconds left at mid field that set up the Bengals game winning field goal and in the conference championship, one could argue the Chiefs were emotionally spent from the 13 second game.
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13 hours ago, Gregg said:
Looks very similar to what they wore in their early history. The Giants uniforms from 1924 to 1933.
Perhaps a little context.
First, it is not official, it is just a rumor.
Second, the Giants are celebrating their 100th year next year and as pointed out by Gregg, these are their uniforms from 1933, so this is likely a one time thing as a part of the 100th year celebration.
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Bad idea. When is the last time a nostaglia hire has worked? Lou Saban?
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42 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:
Did this idiotic trade create cap relief for the Jets?
The Broncos are picking up half of Zach's salary of 5.5M.
This was the surprising thing to me. I would have have thought any trade would have resulted in Jets eating at least 4M of the 5.5M.
https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-broncos-split-zach-wilsons-193402288.html
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3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
day 3 of the NFL draft includes rounds 4,5,6,7.....
But yes, if your are, at best, potential 7th round talent--might as well take a few thousand bucks a year in college, because you're never getting to the NFL.
Well, not to nitpick, but you were the one referring to how much money Mr. Irrelevant in your original argument.
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13 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Larry Fitzgerald
after that it kind of depends upon how you define "diva"
How is Larry Fitzgerald a diva? I don't remember him as having that reputation at all, if anything his reputation was the opposite. Also, the original poster was questioning whether there were any diva WRs who won a Super Bowl. Fitzgerald never won a Super Bowl.
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1 hour ago, tonawandarock said:
can someone name the last diva WR to win a SB? im serious...
Tyreek Hill.
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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:
how much real NIL money are Day 3 type draftees bringing in right now??
5 star recruits (top 32 of them) mirror the top 32 draftees typically. The NIL dropoff to 4 star players is huge. Day 3 would include few, if any of 4 or 5 star players.
So how would NIL affect this at all for day 3? According a group that monitors this stuff (SANIL), the a QB in top 25 PFF grade gets about $350K a year. a top 25 TE will get 100K.
once you get to the Day 3 guys (PFF >150), the amounts go to $50k for QB, all the way down to $10K for TE. Compare this to Mr. Irrelevant, who gets $1,000,000 a year for 4 years.
Therefore any draftable player should forego NIL and enter the draft for a lot more money.
I feel a that this is not the relevant cost benefit analysis. Since only about 30 to 40 percent of 7th round picks actually make a roster, the majority are getting practice squad money, not a million a year although this is still more than most NIL money. More importantly, most NFL careers end not because of age but because the NFL decides you are not good enough. For the majority of 7th round draft choices delaying your entry in the NFL will not affect your lifetime NFL earnings at all, simply push it back a year.
So if you are enjoying life in college I can understand why you would stay one more year. Staying comes with risks such as a bad year or injuries making one less attractive for the NFL, however, declaring for the draft if you expect to be a 7th rounder also comes with the risk that you will not be drafted and there is a chance to improve your draft stock also.
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9 minutes ago, Chaos said:
If he is considered a first round NFL draft pick Steve Young is the correct answer to the question. If he not considered a first round draft pick he is not part of the discussion.
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I don't see how the best example is not Steve Young.
He wasn't part of the regular NFL draft because he signed a 10 year contract with the USFL but he was the first pick in the special USFL/CFL supplemental draft by Tampa Bay. Three of the first four players picked in that draft are in the Hall of Fame, including Reggie White. Young started for two years in Tampa Bay and was absolutely regarded as a bust and then traded for a late second and fourth to the 49ers, which is about what Arizona got for Josh Rosen.
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2 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
These two points are so wrong for so many reasons.
1) The idea that Diggs was the only guy on the team that wanted to win is ridiculous on its face. Sure, Diggs worked hard to project the image of the only one who cared but IMO he was posturing most of that time. I think back to his standing there in Arrowhead Stadium watching the Chiefs celebrate their conference championship win. Talk about a posed Kodak picture moment.
And the idea that Allen doesn't care about winning is based on what exactly? Your perception that in the first couple of months after the season ends the guy actually lives his life? I don't know where this came from but its a meritless smear IMO.
2) And to say that the reason Allen hasn't won a Super Bowl yet is because he doesn't "put the mental work in" is flat out crazy talk. So you think if Allen had spent the off season studying how not to let your Special Teams and Defense blow a 3 point lead with only 13 seconds left would have helped? Because I'm wondering what more then leading the Bills on TWO late 4th quarter TD drives could a more mentally prepared Allen have done in that game.
That's crediting Diggs with supervillian level scheming. I highly doubted he was thinking "hey, we just lost the game in a heart-breaking manner, if I stay on the field and watch the Chiefs celebrate, I'll look good and my teammates will look bad".
Just because, he was a pain in the ass at the end doesn't mean one needs to discredit everything about the guy his contributions to the Bills.
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3 hours ago, Mat68 said:
Diggs believes he made Allen who he is now. Now Diggs best years were with Allen but he wont admit that. Same with Beasley. Different dynamic. Whether it be one of the top 3 wrs or mid rounder they all will see Allen as the guy. Diggs and Beasley seem/seemed almost jealous of his found notoriety and fame.
The Beasley comment was because people were fans were saying that the Bills were all Allen and there he had no talent around him. It was reasonable that he would be somewhat offended by that. I didn't follow the Diggs response but other posters have pointed out some of it was because Bills fans were saying absolutely abhorrent things about him after he expressed condolences following Vontae Davis's death.
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3 million is not much considering how much he was paid and that it will be difficult for him to ever get another NFL job.
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Would Jared Goff count?
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Chuck Dickerson dead at 86
in The Stadium Wall
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Rob Johnson was sacked 7 times in 35 pass attempts when he was in Jacksonville while protected by the HOF LT. That is 1 sack every 6 dropbacks which was a little worse than in Buffalo where he was sacked once every 7 drop backs. That is not a sustainable way to win games or stay off the IR. His so called "outstanding" numbers in Jacksonville occurred in a sample size of one game where he threw for 294 yards out of his 368 total yards with the Jaguars. In a sign of things to come, Johnson had to miss most of the third quarter of that game due to injury though he came back and played all of the 4th quarter (nobody said Johnson was not tough).
Flutie was sacked about once every 23 dropbacks when Flutie and Johnson were on the Bills together, so at approximately 30% the rate Johnson was sacked. The Bills offensive line wasn't great during that time but it wasn't as bad as it looked when Johnson was QB.
There should have been all kinds of red flags when the Bills traded for Johnson but it was before any form of analytics. As Flutie supposedly said when he left "I may not be a great quarterback but you can't tell me that I'm not better than that guy."