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  1. 4 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

     

     

    I believe you guys aren't familiar with the rule.

     

    The call according to Referee John Hussey was "illegal touching" (of a forward pass).

     

    Article 8. Illegal Touching Of A Forward Pass:

    It is a foul for illegal touching if a forward pass (legal or illegal) thrown from behind the line of scrimmage:is first touched intentionally or is caught by an originally ineligible offensive player. If such a pass is caught, it is a live ball; (Penalty: Loss of five yards at the previous spot).

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    It is a foul for illegal touching if a forward pass (legal or illegal) first touches or is caught by an eligible offensive receiver who has gone out of bounds, either of his own volition or by being legally forced out of bounds and has reestablished himself inbounds. If such a pass is caught, it is a live ball.

    (Penalty: Loss of down at the previous spot).

     

    To me this invalidates 2 points that are the basis for arguing that it was an error in officiating:

    • That he was forced out of bounds by the defender... it doesn't matter.
    • That he re-established himself inbounds. Again it doesn't matter... according to the letter of the law, he cannot be the first person to touch the ball when he gets back inbounds.

     

     

     

    Obvious newbie.  Trying to include facts in an internet dicussions instead of just emotions and opinions.  You'll never win an argument that way!

     

     

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  2. 51 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

    I only went back to 2018, but the Jests tradition of picking busts goes back decades. 

    Yeah, the Christian Hackenberg pick in 2016 was WTF from the moment it was made.  You are doing pretty badly when you have two second round picks within 4 years play zero snaps for your team.

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  3. 7 minutes ago, gomper said:

    I'm as left of center as the come. Bernie and AOC don't go far enough, and even I think this is ridiculous. No wonder why we keep losing elections focusing on the wrong thing. Not to be too political, but here's a thought for the morons who run the DNC, economic populism. Focus on something people actually care about. 

     

    They don't have any example of people being offended.   It a case of people being offended by people being offended.

  4. 2 hours ago, djp14150 said:

    Those usually are early pre-season right before or right after game 1 of pre sesson

     

    Right.  Some people thought Jalen Virgil was a courtesy cut.

     

    Forget about it -- he was actually released with an injury designation.

     

  5. 7 hours ago, djp14150 said:

     

    where Chicago want to build this new stadium appears to be out by O hare airport.

     

    It has nothing to do with what Chicago wants and as usual it's about what makes the most money for the Bears.

     

    The Bears wanted a lot of money from the state and city to build downtown and were rejected.  The Bears own 350 acres in Arlington Heights so they think they can make more money building the stadium there and developing the surrounding area.  Arlington Heights might also be willing to give them tax incentives.

     

  6. 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    Andy Isabella, Cole Beasley, Chris Hogan, and the million threads from the past saying “Bills should sign so & so” because they’re a semi-productive white WR. Honestly, it annoyed me especially last offseason with the constant Ladd McConkey pandering, but I wish we would’ve listened to those people as he is hands down the best receiver of his class so far. 

     

    Don't forget preseason Hall of Famer Brandon Reilly.

     

     

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  7. 9 hours ago, NickelCity said:

     

    I am watching it, I enjoyed it, and I wish we weren't doing it. It seems like it's all risk. Sure the fans (like me) like it but I'm not sure it helps the team....

     

     

    Most likely this was mentioned before but the Bills didn't have a choice.  Previous to this season any team that had made the playoffs the previous two seasons were allowed to decline.  This was why the most recent seasons were mostly the leagues sad sacks and why episode one has so much less drama.

  8. 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

    I agree, Allen’s picks never bothered much at all. I know many disagree, but those same risks also produce incredible feats. Allen can recover from a pick. Scoring drives aren’t at a premium with Allen. You have a chance to score every time he has the ball. The average QB has a limited number of those opportunities, and picks are devastating. 

     

    I agree that picks in training camp doesn't matter.  I strongly disagree that turnovers don't matter during the season.  Minimizing turnovers was what made the Bills offense so remarkably efficient last season and why Allen was the MVP.  If the Bills had the same number of turnovers last season as 2023 they would probably have finished 10 and 7 again or worse considering the state of the defense.

     

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  9. 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    Its also a team sport, a QB can only control so much.  But the reality is, QB's get the most credit and the most blame - and the only games people weigh the most are the Championship games.  

     

    Montana's path to the Super Bowl was a lot tougher than the paths Brady and the Pats repeatedly faced too.  And once he got there he didn't lose.  Not saying its bad Brady lost, but its just how things are weighed.  Lebron gets it held against him too how many times he got the finals and lost when compared in GOAT conversations too.  Winning in the finals elevates ones status exponentially, and losing in the finals/championship doesn't really - and when compared to other greats who didn't lose, it comes up and factors in some what, fair or not.  Look at Burrow, no one talks about how he made one SB - one which he lost with the ball in his hands - and now they just talk about can he even make the playoffs this year after missing the last 2 despite having one of the best set of weapons in the league. 

     

     

    You are arguing context but there was no context in the original statement - simply that four Super Bowl wins and zero losses is better than four Super Bowls wins and 2 losses.  I agree winning in the finals does raise ones status exponentially however in this case the two have the same number of Super Bowls wins at the age you are comparing.  I don't think losing in a couple of Super Bowls subtracts from the wins but rather adds (a little bit) to it.  

     

     

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  10. 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    1. Retirement age - Who is the GOAT if Brady had retired the same age as Joe?  I would say Joe is probably the more popular pick as he had just as many SB rings and was undefeated in the SB with Brady having 2 losses.  And at that time, Joe was still the more widely considered GOAT.  Brady pulled away with all the incredible success he continued to have past that age and into his 40's.  

     

    I  have never understood this line of reasoning.  Why is it better to lose in an earlier round versus getting to the Super Bowl and then losing?  To me, everything else being equal, going 4 and 2 in the Super Bowl is obviously better than going 4 and 0.

     

     

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  11. 6 hours ago, Sojourner said:


    Not sure. But they make something like $20k a week when on the PS… can’t be that much different. 

     

    7 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

    Assuming he’s a victim of the final cutdown and is not re-signed to the practice squad, how much money will he make from this assignment?

     

    The players make significantly less during preseason compared to practice squad.  It is between 2k and 3.5k per week depending on experience plus room and board.

     

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  12. Beane has been pretty defensive lately.  First blowing up a standard question about his handling of the wr situation and now claiming that he was right and his boss was wrong.   Textbook example of what you should not be doing.

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  13. 22 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

     

    I'd also be interested to know why the helmet unveiling sponsorship was relegated to Dude Wipes. Most NFL teams have 8-10 corporate sponsors. None of them were willing to sponsor the event?

     

     

     

    I assume that Dude Wipes offered the most money.  I am sure that Dude Wipes felt that a team call the Browns would be a natural fit as a marketing partner.

     

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  14. 2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

     

    Thanks for the link but unfortunately it leaves a lot of my questions, unanswered.

     

    For instance, what degree if any were the Browns complicit in this stunt?... because why would they agree to do something that makes them look so stupid?

     

    And if the Browns didn't know he was gonna pull this stunt, how is it that "well-known social media influencers" insinuated themselves to being on the barge in those key positions at a major team event?

     

    Was it that the Browns know that he and his Grandma were influencers and were hoping for good publicity?

     

    Subsequently did the dude and his Grandma double cross the Browns and betray the trust placed in them by the team in order to increase their followers?

     

    What an ever-stranger world we're living in.

     

     

    The Browns helmet unveiling was sponsored by Dude Wipes who also sponsors the influencer so it is likely he got in thru that connection.

     

    One would think the Browns didn't know about his plan but who knows?  Maybe someone in the Browns org felt all publicity is good publicity.

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  15. 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

    I think he's found some good players. He's had some whiffs too. 

     

    I believe a lot of it falls on his drafting style. Seems he would rather find a few of what he calls "Steady Eddie's" each draft and play it safe over taking a big chance on elite talent with some character/injury flags. And drafting as late as we traditionally have under him, that's the type of player with elite potential he's going to see in the late 20s. 

     

    He's more of a higher floor/lower ceiling type drafter. And that was the way to be the first few years while building culture and turning the team from drought era to perennial playoff team. 

     

    I think he needs to take a few more risks. 

     

    Maybe the last couple of years but before that Rousseau was regarded as a high ceiling, low floor guy and so were Knox and Elam.

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  16. 12 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

     

     

    Have to say looking at his list, you can say the Bills had many down years and yes only had 5 good coaches, but look at the names on this list for other teams?  Mike Smith for Atlanta, Kevin Stepanski, Wayne Fontes, Bill O'Brien and Demarco Ryan for Houston, and how can we leave out our own Doug Marrone and Doug Peterson.  Kind of fitting the Jets have 3 coaches listed with an all time record with the team of under .500.  See Knox made the list with 3 teams .  Surprised George Allen didn't mad ethe list with the Rams too.

     

    All four of the Jets coaches listed, Ewbanks, Michaels, Walton,and Ryan were sub 500.  How is that possible?

     

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  17. 11 hours ago, Avisan said:

    To those wondering where else you should spend the money instead:  Trenches.  Beef the trenches.  Invest in the trenches until you find a QB.  The cost of two high-end skill position players is enough to put together an entire top-tier O-line.  When you do finally land a QB, you put them into a position with good protection and a strong run game to lean on while they get their feet wet in the NFL.

     

    The Jets have invested a lot in their offensive line.  They just haven't gotten very good return on investment though the line was pretty decent during the back end of the last season.

  18. 9 hours ago, hmsmystic said:

    I don't understand posts like this.   I have no objection to players being fairly compensated, but I am a fan on THE TEAM.  The salary cap is real.  Overpaying and guaranteed contracts are generally onerous on the cap, and hurts the chances of signing additional players.  Yes, it's a bit unfair for some of these payers but it protects THE TEAM.  That's good right?  The league needs protection from nutcases like Jimmy Haslem, ruining his franchise for years with the Deshean Watson contract, which is what a large, guaranteed contract could do to a team.

     

    The NFLPA is supposed to get the best deal that they can get for the players.  It is not the purpose of the NFLPA to protect the owners from themselves. 

     

    NFL players get 48% of football related income.  NBA players get 51% and NHL players get 50%.  The average NBA salary is about $12M, the average NHL salary is $3.5M and the average NFL salary is $3.2M.  NBA and NHL contracts are mostly guaranteed while most NFL contracts are not even though NFL players have shorter careers and are more likely to have serious injuries.

     

    Increasing the fraction to the players to 50% will drive zero teams out of business nor will it affect ticket prices, how many streaming platforms games appear on nor how many international games there are.

     

    No matter how you look at it, the NFL players have the worse CBA is any major sport.

     

     

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