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  1. I don't think the comparison in the original article is very useful.  First, 2002 was before the passing game explosion so receiving numbers back then would be lower.  Secondly, why compare someone's rookie season to career averages?  Third medians are more useful than averages since averages will be more affected by complete busts and injuries.

     

    There were 16 WR drafted from #28  to #38 since 2014.  6 of the picks were last year.  Coleman was 11th out of 16 in receptions and 7th out of 11th in 16 in yards.  That pretty much put him as an average late first/early second rookie WR.  The issue is that the Bills could have picked two of the players who did much better statistically than him including McConkey who had the best rookie WR season in a long time. Here are the rankings:

     

    By receptions

     

    1. Ladd McConkey 2024  82

    2. Kelvin Benjamin 2014 73

    3. Tee Higgins 2020 67

    4. Xavier Worthy 2024 59

    5. Deebo Samuel 2019 57

    6. Xavier Legette 2024 49

    7.  Elijah Moore 2021 43

    8. Christian Watson 2022 41

    9. Michael Pittman 2020 13

    10. Rickey Pearsall 2024 31

    11. Keon Coleman 2024 29

    12. Zay Jones 2017 27

    13. Phillip Dorsett 2015 18

    14. N'Keal Harry 2018 12

    15. Ja'Lynn Polk 2024 12

    16. Devin Smith 2015 9

     

    By yards

     

    1. Ladd McConkey 2024  1149

    2. Kelvin Benjamin 2014 1008

    3. Tee Higgins 2020 908

    4. Deebo Samuel 2019 802

    5. Xavier Worthy 2024 638

    6. Christian Watson 2022 611

    7. Keon Coleman 2024 556

    8.  Elijah Moore 2021 538

    9. Michael Pittman 2020 503

    10. Xavier Legette 2024 497

    11. Rickey Pearsall 2024 400

    12. Zay Jones 2017 316

    13. Phillip Dorsett 2015 225

    14. Devin Smith 2015 115

    15. N'Keal Harry 2018 105

    16. Ja'Lynn Polk 2024 87

     

    The good thing is that the pre 2024 receivers had an average of 6 more receivers and 75 more yards in their second seasons.

  2. 10 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ex-nfl-star-antonio-brown-sought-on-attempted-murder-charge/ar-AA1GC4W3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=cc8c14b2e535439e9c260f80cf7be019&ei=6

    Authorities in Miami-Dade County are seeking to arrest former NFL wide receiver Antonio Brown on a charge of attempted murder stemming from a shooting at a celebrity boxing event in May, according to a warrant reviewed by The Washington Post.

    The warrant, which was signed by a judge Wednesday, lists a charge of attempted murder with a firearm and calls for Brown to post a $10,000 bond and remain under house arrest pending trial. Efforts to reach Brown, 36, were unsuccessful Thursday evening; it was unclear whether he was represented by an attorney. A spokesman for the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office declined to comment.

     

     

     

    How is the bond for attempted murder charges only $10,000?  That seems crazy low.

     

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  3. 15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

    I think that facility is a training area at mahomes's mansion ..  and it's certainly not better than whatever the bills have at their adpro sports training complex where players can live in the off-season basically

     

    Josh Allen is known around the NFL has having a supreme world class work ethic.. and I'm pretty sure he has a training area at his Mansion too and a film room so he can watch whenever

     

    You Don't go from unranked zero Star high School recruit to a kid who is supposed to be potentially be the number one pick 

     

     

     

    Is this true?  Not whether Allen does or does not have supreme world ethic but whether that Allen is known around the NFL as an incredibly hard worker.   Outside of the lock-down year when he was 24/7 with Palmer, I don't remember a large number of stories from the national media about how hard he works.  I do remember stories about how competitive he is but that is not necessarily the same as working hard at it. 

     

    The only stories that I recall (post-lockdown) are the ones where he said he doesn't watch too much film and some talking head comments that he relies too much on his talent and not enough in preparation. Again, I am not questioning whether he works and prepares hard but whether that is his image around the NFL.

     

  4. On 5/29/2025 at 8:39 PM, Beck Water said:

     

    I agree, Pitts. cut him loose quickly.  It was a rather strange decision for a team that has been patient.

     

    Anyway, it's my impression that it may not have been "on" Pickett  that a normally patient organization cut him loose.  

     

    I could be wrong.  But the same NFL teams that give chance after chance to veteran has-beens, will surely look hard at Pickett if he's cut and signed to a PS

     

     

    FWIW, there were a lot of whispers (though denied by Pickett) that he did not behave professionally when he was benched by the Steelers:

     

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/steelers/2024/01/02/steelers-kenny-pickett-blasts-rumors-he-refused-to-dress-as-backup/72085492007/

     

  5. 11 minutes ago, H2o said:

     

    These are the same Browns that traded for Deshaun Watson and gave him $230M gtd, after the sexual predator allegations came to light. And honestly, does anyone outside of Cleveland truly believe that Dillon Gabriel was even a 3rd Round talent? 

     

    The Browns clearly thought Gabriel was going to go early in the 4th round, otherwise they wouldn't have picked him at the end of the third.  I doubt they would be willing to risk losing their investment so quickly unless he looks absolutely awful in training camp.

     

     

  6. 2 hours ago, H2o said:

    Someone would poach Pickett to be their backup. He may not be that good really, but the backup talent level is thin across the board. 

     

    I think this will be the order:

     

    QB1 - Flacco

    QB2 - Sanders

    QB3 - Pickett (inactive on gamedays)

     

    PS - Gabriel

     

     

    I don't think that they will risk trying to sneak a third round draft choice through waivers.  Unless they have a fortuitous IR situation I think they will trade one of the QBs before cutdown for whatever they can get, most likely Pickett.

     

    If they lose Gabriel to a waiver claim the Amari Cooper for Dillon Gabriel would be the most lose/lose trade since Sammy Watkins for Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel.

     

  7. 5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

    My prediction: Sanders the starter, Flacco the backup, Pickett to the PS.

     

    What about Dillon Gabriel?   The Browns used the 3rd round pick they got from the Bills for him.  My guess is that they will try to trade Pickett for whatever they could get for him and go with Flacco, Gabriel, and Sanders. They won't risk putting Gabriel and Sanders through waivers where chances are pretty good someone will pick them up.

     

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  8. 24 minutes ago, Pete said:

    For all of the talk about how great Daltons hands are, I cannot recall any difficult Dalton catches.  Could someone please post some stellar Kincaid catches? 

    I can recall many key drops, but I cannot recall any difficult catches.

     

    There seems to be a disconnect between great hands in college and the NFL.  Josh Reed and Zay Jones were also suppose to have great hands coming out of the college but neither displayed that in the pros.  I don't remember any great catches by Kincaid either.

     

  9. 10 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:

    Fast forward 12 years and we find Jeff selling algae for a company named MyLand.

    "Elevating the game on and off the field: Tuel to boost adoption of live, native microalgae in agriculture."

     

    Imagine if Josh needed some soil improvement for his pistachio farm and ended up bulk buying algae from Tuel. They could share stories about frustrating losses against the Chiefs at least.

     

     

     

     

    Certainly a possibility, the first testimonial on the MyLand website is from a pistachio farmer.

     

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    Also I found it interesting that Tuel was working with the cannibis industry before joining MyLand:

     

    "A graduate of Washington State University, Tuel holds a degree in Communication and a minor in Business Development and is a former player for the NFL’s Buffalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars. Tuel made his mark on both the cannabis and autonomy-based fertilizer industries before joining MyLand.."

     

     

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  10. 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

    The Colts game just before the Taron pick six game. Bills up by three and we get the ball back with 6 mins left in the game and the offense can't do much. The Colts get the ball back with 2:30 left and the defense strangled them slow, the drive ending at the Bills 47 as time ran out.

     

    In 2021 both units just dominated the Pats, but that certainly included the defense holding the Pats to three points till very late in the 3rd quarter.

     

    The 2022 Fins game where we won by three with the D stopping them on the last two drives. Our offense was great the first 33 minutes, but after that it was mostly up to the defense, and they came through.

     

    In the 2023 game against the Steelers, both sides of the ball looked terrific, defense just as much as the offense.

     

    In the Broncos game last year the D was every bit as good as the offense. 

     

    The Baltimore game last year also. The pick and the three fumbles, two of them lost to the Bills, were huge in winning that game. The offense was also good, but not beyond the D.

     

    Outside of the Chiefs games, the D has mostly been a very good playoffs group.

     

    The Bengals game the whole team was running on emotional vapors. That certainly included the D, but it's not like the offense was good.

     

     

     

     

    People see the 34-31 score in the 2022 Bills-Dolphins playoff game and think the offense was great and the defense was awful but it was actually the other way around.

     

    After the first quarter and a half the offense and special teams did their best to give the game away (two ints, a fumble returned for a TD, and a 50 yard punt return). The Miami scoring drives in that game were 38 yds (FG), 18 yds (FG), 8 yds (FG), 18 yds (TD),  fumble return (TD), and 75 yds (TD).   The defense also set up two of the Bills' TDs via interceptions (23 yds and 33 yds TD drives).

     

     

     

     

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  11. 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Yea but they only got 84. That would have won 1 of the last 12 titles before this one. 

     

    But that was mainly because Liverpool didn't try the last four games after clinching.

     

  12. 8 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

    Good post. More importantly, we now have ~24 years of evidence, and being on Hard Knocks appears to correlate with a 99 percent plus rate of stasis/mediocrity/decline. The Bills agreeing to this is flabbergasting to me.

     

    Almost all teams that are on Hard Knocks was forced to do so. The only clear exception was 2020 when the Rams and Chargers were trying increase their profile due to the move to LA. They were the only teams since 2011 that were on Hard Knocks that were not on the list of teams that could be forced to do so.

     

    In previous years, the Bills were not on Hard Knocks because either (1) nobody cared about the Bills (pre-2018) or (2) the Bills could not be forced since they had been in the playoffs either of the previous two seasons.

     

    This season the NFL lifted the restriction regarding playoff teams so that 20 teams could be forced to be on the training camp Hard Knocks. This was partly because the expansion of the playoffs meant only three teams in 2024 (Bears, Broncos, Saints) and four in 2023 (Jets, Bears, Saints, Commanders) could be forced.

     

    https://www.si.com/nfl/nfl-teams-eligible-for-2025-hard-knocks-new-criteria

     

    It looks like the teams were able to convince Goodell to eliminate the off-season Hard Knocks after the embarassment to the Giants'.

     

     

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  13. 21 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

    https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/josh-palmer/  88.6% True catch rate ie receptions vs catchable passes but if go by target than it falls to 60% but to me that says more about how poor Hebert was at throwing to him since such a large gap. 

     

    It can also be because he wasn't where the QB thought he should be.   Bills fans have said the same thing about Gabe Davis and Jet fans (and presumably Brown fans) have said the same thing about Elijah Moore to explain the higher percentage of uncatchable passes to those receivers.

     

  14. 14 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

    It’s NOT Cleveland 6 - Bills 3, I can tell you that.

     

    but I enjoyed the blowout over the Fish in the last game of the season, where the Fish needed it for the playoffs.

     

    That one was still better than Bills 5 Bengals 0 in 1978.   Attendance was listed as 45,000 but seem more like 25,000.

  15. 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

    The best college players tend to be captains of their teams. The best college players also tend to be drafted into the NFL.  

     

     

    This. 

     

    What the Bills do is probably not out of line with the rest of the NFL.   This is an old article from 2015 and talks about the top 350 players that CBSSports rated as draftable rather than those actually drafted but they found that 149 out of 327 draft prospects were team captains with the remaining 23 from teams that only had game captains.

     

    So basically about 4 out of every 9 drafted player is a team captain.  So having 3 team captains in a draft is pretty much par for the course.

     

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  16. 14 minutes ago, White Linen said:

     

    How would low catch percentage tell you he wasn't going deep, because of the yards and ypc?  I'm sure there's advanced stata but I don't think that's the indicator.

     

    Without looking anything up, couldn't low catch rate and low YPC, also be aligned with bad QB play?

     

    Maybe, but Moore was 4th in yards per catch among Brown receivers with at least 20 receptions last season (Jeudy 13.7, Tillman 11.7, and Cooper (CLE only) 10.4).  He was even behind one of their tight ends, Jordan Atkins at 9.4.  If Moore was going deep he wasn't catching very many of them.

     

    Plus there's still the issue that he's an entitled primadonna like Diggs without the production to justify it.

     

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  17. 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


    Except Moore just had 61 receptions last year on a horrific offense. 

    Claypool was brought in here and hadn't produced in a few seasons. 

     

     

    61 receptions on 102 targets (59.8% reception rate) and you can't argue the low catch percentage was because he was going deep since he only got 538 yards for 8.8 ypc. 

     

     

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    Moore's been a headcase at both New York, Cleveland, and even Ole Miss.  It is basically a Chase Claypoole roll of the dice except that Claypoole at least had one productive season in the pros.

     

    https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/new-details-emerge-elijah-moore-profane-outburst-jets-trade-request-mike-lafleur

     

    https://sports.yahoo.com/elijah-moore-sidelined-vs-bengals-135039804.html

     

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28189413/ole-miss-wr-elijah-moore-apologize-urinating-dog-celebration

     

     

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  19. 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

    So which would be better:

     

    A) Current format with one team in each conference getting a bye and seven teams making the playoffs

     

    B) A post season play in round where seeds 7-10 play each other for the last two playoff spots. 10 teams in each conference make it beyond the regular season and 8 make the official playoffs. 6 teams effectively get a bye. 

     

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think I like option B better and by a fair bit. But with one important caveat - elimination of divisions. Every team plays every other team in the conference plus 2 (or 3) opposing conference teams on a rotating basis. Seeding is by record. I guess point differential would be the tie breaker. 

     

    If we’re going to have teams that are .500 (or worse) make the post season, then making those teams win another game to get in to the actual playoffs would be fine with me. I’d rather see that then an 18th regular season game. 

     

     

    I would definitely be in favor if they did this instead of adding an 18th game but definitely not if they do this and add an 18th game.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  20. On 4/17/2025 at 4:02 PM, Doc Brown said:

    Throwing Mike Williams under the bus after the Bills loss is exactly who he is.  Probably the most talented QB I've ever seen but there's a reason he won only one Super Bowl.

     

    For what its worth, several Jets have came out and said that Rodgers was a good influence in the locker room though it is interesting that it has been mainly defensive players saying this.

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