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And the last time the non Mason led steelers played the browns the browns lost to duck hodges 🤣 Cleveland could easily lose this game

I would argue that josh allen alone deserves this specific award but mvp has now become synonymous with 'stat sheet stuffing' allen just straight up carried this team week in and week out with no running game or defense for at least half the season making nearly impossible plays look routine. Josh won't win it...but it honestly says more about the award in general than it says about him

The belichick/cam newton press conferences were both a thing of a beauty. Cant help but think Brian Griese and the gang shared belichicks off the record comments about Josh allen not being mvp quality on the air and he was just so confused when they asked him about it lol

Lol its possible someone hums Mr Blue Sky to themselves when they run the simulations 🤣 other than that no

Good points...we can't pay all these guys though so someone has to make some tough decisions soon lol luckily as fans all we have to do is criticize them 😁

Agreed...no one has been more valuable to their team than josh allen has been full stop. If its the 'who has the best stats on paper' award which is what it seems to have turned into it should absolutely be mahomes or rodgers. Can you even imagine what our offense would be like with Travis Kelce to throw to

Kind of reminds me of a Josh Allen-like project on the defensive side of the ball. Absolute athletic freak thats young and raw and you want to see him improve every year. Obviously its trending in the opposite direction than josh has and I think if we had to make the decision right now youre right. Im sure they will line him up at olb or try him in a different role next season before moving on

Hes another one of those high ceiling guys that im sure we want to give as much time to develop as possible. Its pretty funny listening to commentators who clearly don't watch bills games talk about how good he has been lol

I think at face value were probably the second best team in the nfl right now but our super bowl odds take a hit since we have to go through KC with how strong the afc is this year its hard to think of a team that can string 2-3 wins together to make it to the super bowl even including the chiefs but I guess someone has to do it lol why not us

Yup by comparing them with the skill level of their opponents...not sure if fivethirtyeight expands on that basic idea...they might factor in margin of victory and that kind of stuff. You see elo used in the matchmaking for competitive video games a lot so you get similarly skilled teams playing eachother An 'average' team is rated around 1500 in fivethirtyeights nfl ratings...were just under the saints and not far behind the chiefs making us 3rd overall

Its a mathematical model that's used to give players/teams ratings in various games. A win over a good team will give you more elo points than a win over a bad team...that sort of thing. They rate qbs as well using elo and josh just overtook the mighty Patrick mahomes for the number 1 spot tonight

Horrendous playcall/execution by the raiders on that play. That offense does look much more effective with fitzpatrick I can't believe Tua is seeing any playing time at all..he just holds the ball too long

Dolphins are probably the 7 seed still if they lose...they move up to the 5 if they beat us most likely Idk about you guys but I do not want to slip to 3 and see Baltimore in round 1...id much rather get them after the titans beat them up a bit

Allen's now number 1 in fivethirtyeight's ELO metric...shouldnt be far behind in the mvp race

Browns lost to the jets...can't assume pit will lose no matter who they start

I cant see them not trying for the 2 seed

2 seed would be nice...I think Baltimore is gonna leapfrog indy for the 6 seed and I would much rather play the Colts

Sucks its one specific fluke...it would be nice if losses to the Falcons and saints did the trick but they'd have us in conference record. Chargers seem like the type of team that could upset somebody down the stretch

Yea any hope for the 1 seed depends on the chiefs losing today for sure...they aren't losing to the Falcons and chargers but if were in week 17 and need the chargers to upset the chiefs you never know

How would #2 not be viable after this week? Lol were a game behind the steelers with the tiebreaker if they win and they've got a couple tough games coming up. Heck the one seed could be mathematically in play in week 17 although it would take a big upset with the chiefs losing to the chargers

Yea could be...I dont feel that way mostly because josh was basically thrown to the wolves his rookie year lol and now we have to keep hearing how terrible he was with no mention he was throwing to Kelvin Benjamin and zay Jones with a pretty shaky oline 🤣 they got him the tools to be successful eventually but that first season we did josh zero favors

Very uphill battle for both teams...hard to see the ravens not winning 10 games at the very least with the schedule they have left and more than likely 11. Colts browns and ravens have pretty easy schedules left

I wonder how much credit daboll really deserves for Josh's development...seems like Josh is putting in a lot of work on his own to shore up his mechanics. What he's been able to do is pretty rare and I feel like daboll is gonna have these unrealistic expectations following him wherever he goes now

I never realized how hard acting was until I saw athletes trying to do it haha

If were comparing their play recently and not just comparing resumes the chiefs offense has looked pretty out of sorts lately. Obviously mahomes has a more impressive resume that doesn't even seem relevant to bring up not sure what teddy was doin lol at least hes better than Rodney Harrison but that isn't saying much