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11 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
A written argument for why we should trade up:
I nominate this as a post of the year finalist. Clever. Succinct. Brilliant.
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Just now, dave mcbride said:
Yes, precisely. It will absolutely even out over time. The other thing to consider is whether the entities paying college players will realize the sort of return they are anticipating. I’m skeptical, and that might ratchet down the NIL payments.
I think the history of college coaching contracts suggests payments won't ratchet down for players.
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3 minutes ago, Augie said:
It’s not that he couldn’t match the success. Because he’s a terrible GM and has no sense of offense, Belichick was a cellar dweller at the end.
BTW - McD went to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB, so he’s not “just Josh.”
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2 hours ago, Gregg said:
Joe Gibbs with Doug Williams as his QB.
Gibbs is arguably the best HC in NFL history. Bill Parcells did pretty well without having the best QB in the league.
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By similar path, do you mean coaching for a couple of years longer than optimal, then finding no further HC interest in the league? Or do you mean winning many super bowls with a top notch QB on your team. At this point one these outcomes seems more likely than the other outcome.
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9 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:
I don't see how the best example is not Steve Young.
He wasn't part of the regular NFL draft because he signed a 10 year contract with the USFL but he was the first pick in the special USFL/CFL supplemental draft by Tampa Bay. Three of the first four players picked in that draft are in the Hall of Fame, including Reggie White. Young started for two years in Tampa Bay and was absolutely regarded as a bust and then traded for a late second and fourth to the 49ers, which is about what Arizona got for Josh Rosen.
If he is considered a first round NFL draft pick Steve Young is the correct answer to the question. If he not considered a first round draft pick he is not part of the discussion.
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10 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Why pose it as a question of such extremes?
I was trying to make it easy. No one has been able to respond so far with listing any example of wizard level players on the roster. I am willing to give Beane a pass. Just object to the frequent uses of phrases like wizard or big ballin Beane. I will move from the extremes and agree he has done a middling job. I hope people understand middle to be in the middle and the exact opposite of extremes.
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If you take an objective view of the current Bills roster, other than Allen, are there any players on the current roster that justify refering to Beane as a wizard. Or is it more accurate to say the current roster, other than Allen, is kind of meh.
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7 hours ago, HappyDays said:
I've been leading the train in advocating for a WR trade in recent years, but this offseason I am focused on the rebuild. No more old vets. Just draft two young WRs with physical traits and start fresh with the second chapter of Allen's career.
I think Chapter 1 ended when the Bills could not figure out how to build a juggernaut with Allen on a rookie contract. Chapter 2 was shorter, but that ended with the crash and burn of Tre White, Von Miller and Stephon Diggs, the three non-Allen cornerstones of chapter 2. We are starting chapter 3, with only Allen as a bonafide star on the roster (Milano is an unknown).
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On 4/11/2024 at 4:37 PM, Fan in San Diego said:
PFF has Josh Ranked #1 for 2023
This may not be as valid as the BBBS scale.
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On 4/3/2024 at 3:22 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:
But many of the moves being made have appeared to be geared to the 2025 off season
Most don't want to believe that.
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Josh Allen on any roster is good enough to win the division against the Jets Dolphins and Patriots.
This is good enough for all but narrow minded people.
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Every player on the roster should be considered available for trade at the right price. I would even trade Josh Allen, as long as the compensation was Patrick Mahomes and a couple of first round draft picks. I don't understand how anyone evaluates the pluses or minus of only one side of the trade. For example, I would certainly trade Milano for the #5 overall draft pick. I would not trade him for the #180 overall pick.
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7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:
Personally I think it would be sad if the Bills didn't acknowledge his death. He was a GREAT Buffalo Bills player. I've met OJ on multiple occasions throughout my life and he's been one of the most approachable, gracious, ex-football players I've met. I wonder if any of the people that calls him a terrible human being ever met or spoken with him? Maybe he had a Jekyll/Hyde personality. I've had the pleasure of speaking to Dr. Jekyll each time
This is common mistake. People confuse charm and charisma with goodness. Many of histories most evil people have been charming and charismatic.
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My favorite sporting event is the first regular season Bill's game, after months of anticipation and while hope springs eternal.
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13 hours ago, RobbRiddick said:
So long as we get to the playoffs we haven't lost anything (other than the money) because Diggs was always crap in the playoffs anyway
It is very exciting that the coaching staff has solidified another scapegoat for their own playoff failures. Brilliant execution on this task.
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4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
I'm not disappointed Beane and McD moved on from Diggs. But I don't see that Brady got the offense 'back on track.' Brady's offense last season neither scored a ton of points nor moved a lot of yards.
After Dorsey was fired we did not lose anymore games by giving teams extra chances to win because we had 12 men on the field. At least that problem was solved by Dorsey's firing.
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Bills have a tendency to pay solid average guys to above average contracts. And then are disappointed when they continue to be average.
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29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Before my time, but that wasn't just a QB losing his elite WR was it? It was a QB moving from a great team to a less great one.
If your saying playing for Bill Walsh rather than Marty Shottenheimer is more important than who the WR's are, I agree.
32 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:Huh? Montana won two SuperBowls without Rice. Seriously, one of the least informed posts of all time.
Dwight Clark was solid in the early Montana years. But the early Montana years has zero to do with the question asked, that I responded. too.
The question i answered was about "after losing an elite WR". So I answered the actual question. Your response indicates you did not understand the question. But thats ok.-
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11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I'm trying to think of a single NFL Quarterback who was great with an elite receiver, lost that receiver and immediately regressed.
I'm struggling.
We heard it with Mahomes - Hill. I remember it with Watson - Hopkins as well and Watson had a career year without him (albeit other factors then did torpedo him). Rodgers regressed his last year in Green Bay without Adams but that was 'cos he'd checked out and wasn't interested in getting on the same page with the talented new guys when he could sulk and throw to a stiff like Alan Lazard instead. Sure - elite receivers can elevate Quarterbacks but they don't make them.
Joe Montana was not Joe Montana without Jerry Rice. However Steve Young became the new Joe Montana with Jerry Rice.
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7 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:
I believe Bass will bounce back this year. I suspect he had some sort of lingering injury that was affecting him.
Was he on the injury report at all last year?
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Beane gets a pass for one reason: Josh Allen. It was a brilliant move. With the Josh Allen move included he is an above average GM. Remove the Josh Allen move, and he is a fairly average GM.
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16 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
There’s really only 1 FA left now that can be considered an impact player. The Bills should sign him post June 1.
They’re going to need impact player(s) in the draft. They have a hard time finding them.
We are only four seasons away from asking "will we miss the departed players?"
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Change any five players other than Allen on the Bills, and replace them with Jags. Bills still win the division in 2024
Change the GM and the Bills still win the division 2024Change the entire coaching staff and the Bills still win the division in 2024.
So we won't miss any of the departed players.
But there is little evidence to expect Beane is going to replace them with players we would miss, if they left, either. Bills feel like they have been spinning their wheels for a while. Top 2 QB. Very weak division. Its a pretty good formula for winning the division. And only narrow-minded people think that is not good enough. Or so I have heard.
Random talking head says something about the Bills
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What makes you think McD is hungry. Each season he seems to run out of gas, and almost surrender in the playoffs. It seems to me he is anxious to start the off-season.