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7 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
You cannot be serious with this take.
Marrone's choice of OC would have sunk that marriage. A rookie OC to pair with a rookie QB would have seriously hampered Allen's development and probably destroyed his career.
I don’t buy much into the development myth. Who gets the credit for Allen in that narrative? Daboll? Because Daboll’s qb development success stories seem pretty much limited to Allen. having said that, Nate Hacket seems awful
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50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
If I imagine Josh (as he is now, so not factoring in a development arc as if he was a rookie in 02) as the Quarterback of each of the teams going back to the start of my fandom in 2002 then I think they break to drought in 2003 with Williams as Head Coach. The D was very good that year. Any sort of offense they are a playoff team. Likewise they'd have made it in 04 (should have anyway) and would have been a potential Superbowl contender. The 05 and 06 teams were not as strong. They lost Pat Williams and London Fletcher and Spikes had the injuries and barely played over those two seasons. I think they'd have been playoff competitive but would have been touch and go to get in. The 2007 team was terrible. How they won 7 games has long since been a mystery to me. I think that was the 3rd worst team of my fandom after 2010 and 2018. I know you look at it and go "they went 7-9, Josh would have got 2 more wins" but that roster sucked I think if they played that schedule 10 times they don't get to 7 wins more than once. 2008 and 09 they probably make it. 2010, no. 2011, possibly. 2012 yes. 2013, no. 2014, yes. 2015 I think they'd have been a Superbowl contender with Josh and any drought coach EXCEPT Rex. 2016 playoffs.
My breakdown of the 15 years of the drought that I watched would be:
2 genuine Superbowl contending years (04, 15)
6 likely playoff years (03, 08, 09, 12, 14, 16)
3 playoff contention 50/50 in/out years (05, 06, 11)
4 playoff misses (02, 07, 10, 13)
This was a lot of work and a nice write up. But would “roster sucks” have been able to be corrected with the bigger checkbook?
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In my opinion, there are two primary factors separating the drought era Bills teams from the Allen era Bills teams. The first and foremost is having Josh Allen as QB. The second factor which may be equally as important is having the financial resources to compete in free agency.
Among the drought era coaches I think I liked Chan Gaily the best. I credit him with being the inventor of the Fitzmagic.
It would have been interesting if he and Allen had aligned in time. I am not sure if any of the other drought era coaches would have been anymore interesting than the Allen era coaching staffs have been.
How would others like to rewrite history?
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I would like to see us a TJ Watt level pass rusher, a Patrick Surtain level CB, and an expericened all-pro WR. As well as a linebacker that holds Kelce to zero yards.
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As far as the regular season is concerned, all the games are more or less equally important. Due to how bad the AFC east is outside of the Bills, the Bills are a near lock to make the playoffs. It would be nice if the Bills go assemble at least a two game winning streak in the playoffs.
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1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said:
Raiders would make sense from a need perspective, but they only have about 18m and 25m cap the next 2 years. 2026 they have a ton so maybe a backloaded contract with a huge guarantee could be possible?
My previous question was poorly word. I intended to ask where does Tua's contract average annual value end up, if the Dolphins tell him to test the market.
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Where do people think Tua ends up if the Dolphins tell him "Test the Market"
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1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said:
but for the team it’s either pay him, or find a new qb when your team is built to win now.
Dolphins have not achieved meaningful success in the McDaniel - Tua era. In this case, its not clear they are "built to win now". Unless that means "Built to be a slightly above .500 club."
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2 hours ago, stuvian said:
Unless they have someone else in mind, the Dolphins need to pay him market value
The Dolphins are faced with the decision on whether or not they can build a team better without Tua or with Tua. In the playoffs two years ago, the Dolphins nearly went the distance with the Bills with Skylar Thompson at QB. Tua is criticized at times as a "system QB". Since they did not draft a QB this year, I would assume they intend to stay with Tua, but I am not sure its a lock.
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1 minute ago, Blackbeard said:
No.
itll just be used to bolster the annoying “chiefs winning despite such adversity” bs.
Do you think if the Bills first round draft pick had already had an injury, would we be seeing excuses for why the Bills can't win it all in 2024?
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24 minutes ago, Simon said:
I think he's wondering if not "slowing down" makes you a bad person. Or just someone who broke a law.
Cuz the two are not really interchangeable, imo.
Most philosophical and ethical systems have a different opinion. Typically unless the law itself is immoral, it is immoral to not follow the law.
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The Chiefs seem to be facing a lot of offseason issues. Does anyone think this impacts their chances to win in 2024?
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Its almost like no one is old enough to remember when you only got to see the three games shown in your local market plus MNF. Oh, and there was a decent chance the home team game might be blacked out and not even one of the three games.
People comment on these TV deals, as if there was a time when every NFL game was available to watch for free on TV.-
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1 hour ago, Peace Frog said:
Fortunately, we have one of those two.
This is correct.
The following is questiontable:
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I think the title of this thread should be updated to :
Is it time to worry about Marquez Valdes-Scantling ?-
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16 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:
He had an epic fail with Dorsey. Some one had to go, and rightly so.
He also promoted him wrongly , in hindsight . Josh wanted him lol
But I cant see Henry being a fall guy if the WRs struggle just because WRs struggle. Unless he just never connects with them.
Lets keep tabs on this 😉
This idea that Allen picked Dorsey is insane. If the GM and Coach can't figure out who the OC should be, they should be out on the street tomorrow. As far as I can tell from McDermott and his apologists, every success of the Bills flows from his great talent, and all of the problems are someone elses fault.
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The Bills are focused past 2024. They are not going to add anyone additional to the roster that has a cap hit that extends past the this upcoming season.
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14 minutes ago, Augie said:
But that doesn’t point the finger quite as clearly at McD, and some people want that made very clear.
Bills blew another fourth quarter lead. Look up how many times the Chiefs have blown fourth quarter leads under Mahomes.
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3 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:
Do I think he will pass for 4,500+? I'd put that at low odds. Does he match or exceed LYs production? IMO, im very condifent.
Allen threw for 4,306 yards in 2023. You are confident he will exceed last years total, but put 4500 yards at low odds. Your predicition is pretty precise, somewhere between 4307 and 4499 yards.
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1 minute ago, 2003Contenders said:
Ironic that we have a GM named B. Beane, because it looks like our GM, Brandon, appears to be taking a page out of the GM of the Oakland A's Billy "Moneyball" Beane from years past. Given the cap constraints that we find ourselves in this year, that makes sense.
Rather than looking at a conventional WR1, WR2, etc., Beane is looking at the totality of the receiving corps which coupled with an elite QB, he believes can maintain the overall production from the team last year that did ostensibly have a "WR1" in Diggs.
It is true that we are losing our top 2 receivers from last season in Diggs and Davis who accounted for 152 catches, 1929 yards and 15 TDs. But if we take a step back and look at the final 7 games of the season, when Brady was calling the offense (and the team went 6-1 with just the one heartbreaking loss to Philly), Diggs/Davis combined for just 46 catches, 571 yards and 3 TDs. Worse, Diggs was disparagingly unproductive with the receptions he did have, averaging less than 10 yards per catch, 315 yards on 34 receptions and just 1 TD. Shakir was more productive than either of them over that span, accounting for 363 yards (Davis had 256).
Meanwhile, after our top 3 in Diggs/Davis/Shakir, there was very little production from any other WR. Sherfield and Harty COMBINED for 26 receptions, 236 yards and 2 TDs. Getting more production from our new WR4 and WR5 could help to cushion the blow of losing Diggs and Davis. So would hopefully seeing an uptick in Shakir's production.
I am not suggesting that Shakir is capable of fully replacing Diggs just because he was more productive later in the season (and especially in the playoffs) than Diggs. But assuming Shakir is a more primary target in the 2024 offense, it stands to reason that he can increase his total 2024 output of 39 receptions for 611 yards and 2 TDs substantially. He wasn't far behind Davis last year in terms of catches (45-to-39) and yards (746-to-611), so I do not think it is unreasonable to project, say, 52 receptions for 800 yards for Shakir. Replacing Davis's TD output may not be as easy -- but I think 4-5 TDs for Shakir is a reasonable, conservative expectation. I can also see similar numbers for Samuels (he had 62 receptions and 4 TDs last season with garbage at QB) and the rookie Coleman, who I can see being a TD-machine in this offense and matching (or even exceeding) Davis' TD output.
Getting back to the Bills' dismal WR4 and WR5 production in 2023, coming off an admittedly underwhelming season, MVS still out-produced Sherfield/Harty COMBINED with 315 yards. He's just a year removed from posting 687 yards and posted 690 back in 2020. That's to say that he alone could make up for some of the lost WR production -- and help to provide some added insurance in the event that Coleman has a rookie learning curve to overcome. Whomever from Hollins/Cephus/Claypool/Hamler/Shorter makes the team should also pick up some of that production as well.
Of course, none of this even accounts for the expected involvement (and improvement) from the TEs and RBs in the passing game.
Long story short, if we replace from 2023:
Diggs 107 rec 1183 yards 8 TD
Davis 45 rec 746 yards 7 TD
Shakir 39 rec 611 yards 2 TD
Harty 15 rec 150 yards 1 TD
Sherfield 11 rec 86 yards 1 TD
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Total 217 rec 2776 yards 19 TDWith something like for 2024:
Shakir 52 rec 800 yards 5 TD
Samuel 65 rec 770 yards 4 TD
Coleman 51 rec 750 yards 8 TD
MVS 31 rec 480 yards 2 TD
Hollins* 16 rec 200 yards 1 TD
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Total 215 rec 3000 yards 20 TD
In this scenario (which I don't think is unreasonable), we still get better production from the top 5 WRs even if we don't have a single WR with 100+ receptions and 1000+ yards.
Its plausible for Kincaid to have 100 catches and 1000 yards.
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6 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:
I wonder if Josh Allen will ever once in his career before he retires have two quality starting receivers who can each attack all three levels of the defense.
If that ever happens the Bills might just win the Superbowl.
maybe. But offense is not the reason we lose playoff games
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We will never know if he is doing a good job or not. We will have zero insight into how many times McDermott ignores the advice.
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On 5/10/2024 at 12:50 AM, Dan Darragh said:
It used to be that comedy, in order to induce a laugh, had to be thoughtful and clever. Seinfeld was the last of this type. Nowadays you just need to mention "Giselle" and the F word. It got very old very fast. Our culture has deteriorated.
Something can be funny without being witty. In the three hour roast,
there was maybe 20 to 30 minutes or witty humor. Most of the rest was some version of shock humor. Which became repetitive. it’s not possible to call the fourth reference to Aaron Hernandez witty. But it is still possible to laugh. Many 6 years old laugh at the word “poop” every time they hear it. Much of the roasts humor was on that level.
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The correct answer is, drum roll please, :
Terrell Bernard-
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Historical Fiction: How would drought coaches have fared with Josh Allen?
in The Stadium Wall
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Dropping Allen into the drought. So Brady is a thing. But it is equally interesting to discuss giving each drought coaches six full seasons with Josh in the post Brady ere.