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  1. 6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    He’s top 2 imo, but Joe Burrow is the reason the bolded is an exaggeration.  He beat Mahomes in the playoffs and is undefeated vs Josh.  

    Burrow’s just hurt too much.  When he’s 100%, he might be better than Josh, but it doesn’t matter how good he is at 100% when he’s never 100%.  He’s Manning with injury issues, IMO.  There’s a feeling you get when your team plays against certain QBs, and it just feels different watching your team try to defend Josh.  It’s like when I was a kid watching John Elway.  

     

    You know that if the Bengals cut your heart out it’s because Burrow feathered perfectly defended passes into minuscule windows over and over.  You know that if the Ravens do it it’s because Lamar did some brilliant display of athleticism.  With Elway, it was worse because you never knew what it was going to look like.  John was a bridesmaid many, many times before he finally won back to back and then rode off into the sunset, and now he’s on the list of the greatest ever.  Josh will need to do the same if he wants to be put into that category.  Fair or not, Marino is never more than a ‘devil’s advocate’ argument when it comes to the best ever.

  2. 36 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

     

    So that one thing makes Josh the reason as to why we haven't beaten anything but crap teams in the playoffs his fault then?  Well, OK.  I suppose if that's how you view it.  

     

    Which game/play are we talking about by the way?  
     

    I guess we'll have to move on to a QB that never misses a pass and one that runs with a little more pizazz than Allen.  

    I’m not blaming Josh at all.  He played a great game.  I think the Chiefs had a better team around Mahomes than the Bills did around Allen.  Josh has a gear that no other QB other than Mahomes will ever get to, though.  He’s the one guy we play and know that it’s possible to defend him perfectly and still lose.

  3. 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

     

    That's fine, but that's an extremely weak answer to the fact that I posited and does not address it directly.  It also fringes on the play-calling, aka coaching, even if only the offensive side, which some would argue stems from the top-down in terms of what you mentioned.  

     

    And in arguing differently, at some point then it would be quite reasonable to begin asking whether our HC is in control of the entire team, or not, or merely the D and even then not in every key situation.  Just sayin'.  

     

     

    Josh had a guy open short for a possible first down and a guy open deep for a possible TD.  What more could a play caller possibly be asked to do?

  4. 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

    Nah. Burrow always skates and Lamar's in the HOF already. Allen gets judged on a different criteria

    There’s a better chance of Josh making the HOF and Lamar missing it than vice versa. At this point, there’s simply no way to say that Allen isn’t a top 2 QB.  Arguments can be made that in any given year he didn’t produce at a top 2 level, but that’s him against the field.  Burrow may have had a better three years ago, and Hurts may have had a better season two years ago, and Lamar may have had a better season last year, but on the whole Josh is easily better than all of them.  20 years from now, nobody is going to rank Lamar above Josh on the all time list.  I’m a huge Lamar fan, but any list that has Lamar on it is a pretty long list.

  5. 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    Oh my God. Someone doesn't have to *die* for there to be an offense with repercussions, possibly major.

     

    And it's interesting you should mention Henry Ruggs earlier. Is this the same result? Thankfully no. But it's the same action from a comparable 2nd year player and Ruggs is still in recent memory. I could easily see a scenario where Goodell and the League see this and want to make an example of him.

    Jalen Carter crashed a car and left the scene of a fatal car accident.  He got probation and was drafted top 10 a year later.  Rice was incredibly lucky that his stupidity didn’t have a worse ending.  I’m not condoning his actions, nor does it make even the tiniest bit of difference what I think should happen to him.  The reality is that it was a traffic accident that resulted in no major injuries.  He’s got enough money to afford a competent attorney, so the odds of him seeing the inside of a jail cell are virtually nil.

     

    I realize he plays for the team that keeps winning Super Bowls so everyone here wants to pretend that the book will be thrown at him, but that’s little more than fan fiction.  

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  6. 4 minutes ago, buffblue said:

    Why are you so quick to downplay the incident and take the player's side? Would you be saying the same thing if someone was killed, which could have easily happened?

     

    But you're right, nothing of any consequence will ever happen to this guy or other model citizens like Britt Reid or Tyreek Hill. 

    Of course I wouldn’t be saying the same thing if someone was killed.  There’s a pretty big difference between getting into a wreck where everyone walks away versus someone being killed.  It was a stupid situation, and I’m sure he’ll face some sort of consequence, but it’s not like he’s OJ Simpson or Von Miller.

  7. 13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    Every outlet has reported there are injuries. Reported as "minor" by TMZ, but that could mean simply not life threatening. But the point remains, your assertion that everyone walked away without any injuries is factually false.

    You’re right.  TMZ is famous for understating situations rather than sensationalizing them.  Those other cars rolled over and burst into flames, and there are surely injuries that fall just under the threshold of “life threatening”.  Rice is going to serve prison time.  This is basically Henry Ruggs part 2.  🥱

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  8. 2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

    It is a felony hit and run if no bodily harm in Texas. Third degree felony if it caused any injuries. 10k fine and up to 10 years in jail. So yes he will be arrested if he was driving. 

    Not “any” injuries.  It’s $10k and a potential loss of license if the injuries are minor which they were.  Nobody is going to jail over this.  Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but worst case scenario is probably a 4 game suspension.

    1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

    Just because you don't see fire and a car mangled into a ball doesn't mean there wasn't injuries. There reportedly is - thankfully listed as mild. But even "mild injuries" in a 6 car highway car crash involving cars hitting the wall could still be fairly nasty - with the "mild" simply meaning non-life threatening.

    There’s literally video of the occupants of the cars getting out and walking away without so much as a limp.  

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  9. 22 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

    I would guess he's already in custody so they aren't searching for him. 

    Why would anyone be in custody?  It was a traffic accident.  There’s pictures of the drivers walking away on foot.  The cars have damage, but they aren’t mangled or anything.  Sounds like they were being stupid, but nobody’s getting arrested over speeding on the Dallas expressway unless they were driving impaired.

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  10. 27 minutes ago, Logic said:


    What Reddick has over Huff is that he's been good for a longer period of time. Double digit sacks in four straight seasons.

    But Huff had a career year last year and seems to be blossoming into an imposing pass rusher himself.

    As I pointed out in my post, they two players had an identical 22% pass rush win rate last year.

    As I also pointed out in my thread, Huff had just 1 less sack than Reddick, but on 289 less attempts. That's significant.

    So yes, I'm suggesting that what Huff became last year may be roughly equal to what Reddick is now. I admit that Reddick has the proven longevity factor that Huff lacks, and perhaps you're insinuating that Huff's 2023 success was a flash in the pan, not likely to be duplicated.

    Me? I'll take the 25 year old and the 2nd round pick over the 29 year old and the lack of that pick. YMMV.

     

    Huff might be better three years from now and it may put NY in a worse draft and cap position three year from now, but the Jets aren’t trying to win three years from now.  They’re all in right now, and Reddick is a much better player today.  Huff had a career year from a sack standpoint, but Reddick still had more while being a much better overall player.  I’m not a huge believer in “approximate value” metrics, but Reddick was an 8 last year, and Huff was a 2.  The year before, Reddick was a 15, and Huff was a 1.  

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HuffBr00.htm

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/ReddHa00.htm

     

    That said, I don’t really disagree with anything you said up until the ‘Douglas loss, Howie win’ part.  Philly’s been to two Superbowls and won one in the last 6 years. They’re trying to build for the long-term.  The Jets don’t have that luxury.  They’re taking a rifle shot at winning now.  This “trade” furthers both of their interests, IMO.

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  11. 1 hour ago, Logic said:

    As I just saw pointed out on Twitter:

    Yes, the Jets got 29 year old Reddick, but they LOST 25 year old Bryce Huff who is coming off a career year with 10 sacks.

    Reddick and Huff had an identical 22% pass rush win rate last year. Huff had one less sack on 289 (!) less rushes.

    So the Eagles got the younger, arguably equally productive player by signing Huff, then turned around and took advantage of the Jets' sudden need for a pass rusher by trading them the older Reddick and getting a 2nd round pick and $10 million in cap space in return.

    So the Jets added a good player in Reddick, yes, but its arguably a wash with having lost Huff, but they got older and gave up a premium pick to do it.

    Howie Roseman win, Joe Douglas loss.

    You’re really trying to pretend that Bryce Huff is as good as Haasan Reddick?

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  12. 3 hours ago, Yantha said:

    It's a fair point but you can't sign a probowl center.  They all have jobs with other teams at this point.

    Kansas City has an all Pro center playing on the last year of his rookie contract. They’ve also got Trey Smith and Nick Bolton who are up for new contracts after this season as well. I don’t think they can sign all three of them. 
     

    Buffalo has a need at Center and is without a third round pick. Creed and a third round in exchange for Buffalo’s first would be an interesting option, IMO.

  13. 1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:


    Kincaid wasn’t a raw prospect, he was a polished product. While he’s athletic, you couldn’t classify Kincaid as an athletic freak because he never tested during the pre draft process due to his back injury 

    That’s not accurate at all in terms of bing a polished product.  A huge part of his draw was the fact that he was raw since he didn’t start playing football until his senior year of high school.

  14. 3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

    I would disagree with this only because Allen was 21, Edmunds was 20, Rousseau was 20, Oliver 21, Elam 20. When Beane takes athletic profiles in round 1 he does it when they’re extremely young. He has never take a 23 year old raw prospect.

    He traded up to get Kincaid just last year who turned 24 shortly after the start of the season.  He’s about the same age as Gabe Davis.

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  15. 23 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

    If, for example, they love Legette, and they're confident they can get him (and KC won't) by trading back a handful of spots, OK.

    But I wouldn't get cute if they really like a guy and he's available at 28. If they don't really like a guy, sure.

    Given that Kansas City has jumped them the past two years and come away with Trent McDuffie and Rashee Rice, I’m not sure that trading back behind the Chiefs this year is a great strategy.

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  16. 6 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

    Why not?  Their fans are a bunch of obnoxious hicks from the middle of nowhere.  They have had their glory.

     

    Didn't Gordon Gecko say that "Greed is good" in the movie Wall street?  LOL   

     

     

    Why not?  Their fans are a bunch of obnoxious hicks from the middle of nowhere.  They have had their glory.

     

    Didn't Gordon Gecko say that "Greed is good" in the movie Wall street?  LOL   

     

     

    Why not?  Their fans are a bunch of obnoxious hicks from the middle of nowhere.  They have had their glory.

     

    Didn't Gordon Gecko say that "Greed is good" in the movie Wall street?  LOL   

     

     

    Congrats on finally getting Internet access in upstate NY.  You'll get better once you figure it out.

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  17. 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


    I’d say they like him as a “high floor” player. Meaning they believe he could at least start at multiple positions if need be. Ideally he’s the 3rd safety and will see the field during certain situations
     

    Yes, he may end up starting if we don’t add anyone else.  That’s fine. He made some huge plays late in the season

    His value is his versatility.  He's not great at any specific role, but you can use him anywhere.  He can play deep safety, box, and even slot corner without being a liability.  IMO, he's the best overall Safety on the roster.  Still think Beane adds a definitive starter, though.

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