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Billl

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  1. There’s really no reason to have a strong opinion on Coleman at this point.  He looked like a nice player the first half of the season, then he stunk when he returned from injury.  It’s impossible to say for certain what that means for the rest of his career in terms of overall success.

     

    There are a few things you can glean from his season, though.  He’s clearly capable of making big plays, but unless he figures out how to create separation, he’s not going to be the guy you can count on when you need a play the way you could with Diggs or even Beasley.  When you only get 4 targets a game and still have a catch rate of 50%, you’re much more of a complementary piece than a featured receiver.

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  2. 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

     

    Back injuries vary. A back injury which requires surgery is TOTALLY different than a back injury that doesn't. Many who has experienced a back injury, like myself, don't want to have surgery because in many cases it ends up being a worse outcome. I don't think this is a fair comparison since he said that he had surgery.

    I’ve talked to a back surgeon in a social setting who said that he would never have back surgery.  He said there are just too many ways that it can go horribly wrong for no apparent reason.

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  3. 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I don't think Devonta or Goedert are as good at their jobs as Hurts is at his. They are both good. Hurts is really good. AJB and Saquan are elite.

    Philly has a top 5 WR group.  They’ve got a top 5 OL.  They’ve got a top 5 RB.  Hurts is a top 10, but likely not top 5, QB.

  4. 6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    No. If I had to pick a QB to QB a team for an entire season, Lamar would be my second pick behind Josh Allen. 

    So you’re putting your life’s savings on guys who are a combined 0-5 against Mahomes when the season is on the line?  Josh is 7-6 in elimination games.  Lamar is 3-5.  Mahomes is 17-4, but you’re rolling with Lamar?

     

    Nobody thinks Lamar gives his team a better chance of winning the Super Bowl than Mahomes.

  5. 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I won’t speak for others but you don’t need to think for me. I think Lamar has been the better player over the last couple of years. 

    So if you had to put your life savings on one QB to put together a game winning drive in a critical moment, you’re picking Lamar?

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  6. 4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

     

    I'm really not looking at stats at all. And I am taking the supporting cast into account, that's why I have the most recent Super Bowl champion at #11 on my list. Mahomes just hasn't played at the highest level over the past two seasons. Allen, Jackson, and Burrow all got MVP hype last year. The QB of the 15-1 team got no MVP hype at all. That tells you where the national perception is at right now. Part of it is people recognizing that their defense and special teams was the primary engine to that record. And those parts of the team definitely gave him some leeway that the other top 3 QBs did not have, even accounting for his middling supporting cast.

     

    I hear you on the clutch factor. I just don't think you can weigh it so heavily that you ignore the QB's play for the other 58 minutes of a football game. If you were weighing playoff football heavier then Jackson might be #4 on the list, maybe even out of the top 4 entirely. But I'm just looking at their play on the whole over the entire season.

     

    So Mahomes isn’t as good because he doesn’t pad his stats during garbage time?  He’s won 17 straight one-score games.  When it matters most, he’s the best by a comfortable margin.

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  7. 23 hours ago, Draconator said:

    I have literally nothing to say about this crappy AI picture. There's not enough alcohol in the world for me to drink to come up with something witty to say about this picture. Maybe someone here who snorts pink cocaine can help a brotha out.

     

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    Why is the Browns QB wearing a Chiefs/Mahomes uniform?

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  8. 1 hour ago, RoscoeParrish said:

    It’s not really trying to twist your words. 
     

    Isn’t the point of Cover 2 making those throws low probability? By having an extra deep defender, who maybe makes the offense hold the ball a second or two late on a throw, in time for the pass rush to get home?

     

    Isn’t the best way to strategically beat Cover 2 to be methodical and take open checkdowns aka what the defense gives you?

     

    I feel like you really argued against yourself here, strategically and statistically. Offense was a second a

    late, pass rush got home, incomplete. 

    Morse, the Center, is #60.  This ball was snapped on the right hash of the 26 yard line.  Josh takes a full 5 step drop and then 3 false steps and actually drifts left into the pass rush before being hit as he threw.  That’s Diggs running wide open right in front of Allen.  

     

    We’re to conclude that Josh didn’t have a pocket and Dion Dawkins is 100% at fault for this play resulting in an incompletion.  Who are you going to believe, Einstein or your lying eyes?

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  9. 4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

     

    Alright, yep, he has gone into full trolling mode.

    So your position is that Allen couldn’t have thrown the quick crosser to a wide open Diggs because he needed to throw it deep to Shakir, but he couldn’t throw it deep to Shakir because he didn’t have the protection.  Basically all the team needs to do is get a guy open short and a guy open deep and give Allen 5 seconds to throw, and the play will be successful.  Buffalo should figure out how to do that and then just spam that play over and over.

  10. 45 minutes ago, Einstein said:

     

    There was no sliding in the pocket. You can try to make that argument until the cows come home but it won’t ever be the truth.

     

    Allen could have completely bailed the pocket and ran right, but then he would have had zero chance at hitting Shakir or Diggs. It would have just been a QB run.

     

    But sliding? … no. Any upward movement that wasn’t a complete sprint out of the pocket would have resulted in Jones sacking him. Jones was just waiting for Allen to try that. For goodness sake, that is the entire purpose of a bull-rush. You either disrupt the passer by knocking the linemen into him, or you disengage the lineman (who can’t see behind him) and sack the QB when the QB tries to step up. 

     

    I don’t know why you’re trying to pretend like these are viable options. I never pegged you as a troll before and am hoping you aren’t becoming one, but I have a hard time believing if Mahomes had picked the wide open TD and his LT ruined the play that you would be finding any blame in Mahomes.

     

    That’s ridiculous on its face. Josh knew the protection.  To his right, he had two blockers protecting the LDE.  To his left, he had Dawkins on an island against Chris Jones.  If there’s going to be any pressure, it’s going to be from his left.  Fortunately for him, he’s got 2 blockers against a non-premier pass rusher to his right, so he knows that he can move to his right in the extremely likely event that Dawkins doesn’t completely stone Chris Jones.

     

    It’s not like Dawkins got picked up and thrown into him the way Smoot manhandled Caliendo in the AFFCG.  He got pushed back, but there was plenty of time and room for Josh to use the pocket.  Hell, there was enough time that Diggs had already crossed from one side of the field all the way to the other.  A QB, especially one as mobile as Josh, has to be able to avoid one rusher, particularly when that rusher is engaged with a blocker.  The Defensive Tackles weren’t rushing, and the LDE was absolutely no threat.  There was exactly one spot on the field that would have put Josh in harm’s way, and he nailed his feet to that spot.

     

    In the end, there were 2 open receivers and a large, clean pocket.  The rest was up to Josh.  He didn’t take the quick crosser to Diggs, and he didn’t slide out of Dawkins’s way to give himself a clean look at Shakir.  That wasn’t Dion’s fault or Brady’s fault, or anyone else’s fault.  The play was there to be had, and Josh missed it.

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  11. 15 minutes ago, Simon said:

    If he slides, the window to Shakir slams shut and it's a scramble drill.

    He trusted Dawkins to give him one more step and it just didn't work out.

    Totally disagree.  It was a late opening window, and Josh needed to either hit Diggs flashing wide open across the middle or slide into the pocket to buy another half second for Shakir to break into the opening in the back of the end zone.  When you’ve got a huge pocket and 2 open WRs and don’t get the ball anywhere near either of them, that’s on the QB.

     

    Look again at how much room he has if he slides to his right.  Look at how open Diggs was, and we know that Shakir broke open a split second later.  If a QB needs all that AND for his LT to completely stone a HOF pass rusher, then there’s no chance of success.  It was poor pocket awareness on Allen’s part.  That is a play he simply has to make with the season on the line.

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  12. 9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

     

    Only about 50 times since it has happened form every angle available.
     

     

    Now you're moving the goalposts into an entirely different argument. Another losing one mind you, but the more popular one of "he should have thrown to Diggs".

    Allen 1000% made the right decision to throw to Shakir. He knew Shakir would be open for the TD and he went for it.  He made the right decision and threw the right pass. You never pass up a TD because you don't know what will happen the next play or any play after that. Fumbles, flukes, etc. You take the TD.
     


    No it was 100% on Dion. Allen holds zero blame. 

    Your original suggestion of Allen moving up into the pocket would have led to a guaranteed sack and is something you *never* do against a bull-rush. And shifting the line against a 4 man uniform front with a defender motioning a potential blitz on the opposite makes me question your understanding of the game.

     

    25 minutes ago, Einstein said:


    What in the world!? You wanted Allen to slide protection against a 4 man rush and a uniform defensive front with a blitzer threatening on the opposite side!? And you wanted Allen to step up into the pocket, which would have hastened him being hit by Jones? QB's step up in the pocket to avoid pass rushers coming on the backside. Not pass rushers bull rushing. If Allen steps up, Jones swims inside and blasts Allen into the turf

    There is one person to blame on that play and his name rhymes with Peion Pawkins. Maybe an honorable mention to Shakir route running taking a tad longer than it should have.

    Nobody is saying he should have slid the protection.  They’re saying he should have slid right into the massive pocket.  It was a 2 man rush with a double team on the right edge, two DTs playing contain, and then Dawkins blocking Chris Jones on the left edge.  

     

    All you can ask of any LT matched up against Chris Jones is to lose slowly, and Dawkins did that.  Josh had time and room to slide into the pocket, but he didn’t.  He locked onto Shakir and stood directly in the way of where Jones was pushing Dawkins, ie. the worst possible place to be.  Josh had a clean pocket and two open receivers.  He doesn’t make many bad plays, but he did that time.

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  13. 29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Yep. This is the line of the entire thread. If anyone wants to make the comparison argument on that play the ball WOULD have been gone a second before Dion gets pushed back if that was Brady and Diggs would have the first down, clock still moving. Bills in position to win the game. 

     

    I am not quite as harsh as some on the decision to take a shot there. But if you want to pull the what would Tom Brady have done (hell even what would Mahomes have done) the ball would be with Diggs wide open underneath because the KC defense had backed right off into soft zones and it would have been a first down.

     

    Brady would have slid in the pocket.

     

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