FireChans
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Just now, Scraps said:
What did you add troll?
This is sad now dude. If you want to rejoin the debate:
Start here and we can talk in about 8 years.
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Alright, I think that’s it. Hope it was at least educational for the rest of y’all.
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1 minute ago, Scraps said:
Seriously? You dodged my first question. Name the first million of the 9 million treatments for Lupus; I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Your answers havn.t been remotely close to anything any MD has said. I doubt you are an MD at all.
Lol, there’s the white flag. Everybody wants to play doctor but not everyone wants to read no heavy ass books.
Listen pal, there’s a lot more to practicing medicine than googling side effects and going, “it’s not safe!!!!!!!!!!!” Every medication has a risk of side effects, including the antibiotics you take for a sinus infection. Everyday in this country, septic patients with chronic kidney disease are started on vancomycin, even though vancomycin has a significant risk of nephrotoxicity. But that risk is assumed, because you may die without that antibiotic. Everyday, cancer patients take novel immuno- and chemo-therapy drugs without proof of efficacy because they have very little hope of survival otherwise.
HCQ as an example, has very low risks associated with it relatively speaking, especially in a short course. One of the most notable side effects, which is related to the eyes, takes MONTHS of therapy to occur. It’s a medication that has been around since the 50s and one that we know very well. When using it in a COVID patient, you would have a discussion about the risks and possible benefits, including the fact that it hasn’t been well studied. But like above, regardless of the lack of clinical trial data, most patient’s on death’s door would take the chance on a mostly benign drug. And ultimately, it’s shared decision making between both the patient and their physician. No one is forcing COVID patients to take HCQ.
You don’t know what you’re talking about, which is okay. The easy solution is to shut the ***** up and stop trying to play doctor, because you suck at it.
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2 minutes ago, Scraps said:
Well, people with lupus have been prescribed this drug for a long time under a doctors supervision.
I see you have avoided all my questions
My problem is that HCQ has not been proven in clinical trials. Do you disagree? My problem is that people seem to be throwing caution to the wind. Do you disagree? I don't remember the drug names but I've heard of a couple of drugs that compete with HCQ that have shown some promise against Covid-19. Trump even mentioned one of them by Pfizer in his Friday news conference. Isn't it possible that if HCQ is effective against Covid-19, competitive medicines might be effective as well?ll my questions
I'll keep asking these Dr FireChans. This shouldn't be difficult for a real MD, though I doubt at real MD would claim that there are 9 million treatments for lupus.
You can’t accuse me of dodging questions while you yourself are actively dodging my questions.
Ideally, we would have the luxury of waiting for clinical trials to investigate efficacy, sure. Did you know that every year, thousands of Americans with treatment resistant cancer take trial medications that haven’t undergone significant study in attempt to save their lives because they don’t have 10 years to wait around?
Yes, other medications may be effective. Not sure any of them have as much support as HCQ does at this time.
8 minutes ago, FireChans said:How many people in the US have died from COVID-19 in the last month? How many have died from the side effects of HCQ?
Do you really want to put lupus patients on a drug that “could lead to heart failure?”
Answer these now please.
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Just now, Scraps said:
I'm doubting your claims of being an MD. Should they be put on a drug that could lead to heart failure?
How many people in the US have died from COVID-19 in the last month? How many have died from the side effects of HCQ?
Do you really want to put lupus patients on a drug that “could lead to heart failure?”
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13 minutes ago, Scraps said:
Okay. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are a MD, even though the 9 million treatment for lupus sound like BS.
My problem is that HCQ has not been proven in clinical trials. Do you disagree? My problem is that people seem to be throwing caution to the wind. Do you disagree? I don't remember the drug names but I've heard of a couple of drugs that compete with HCQ that have shown some promise against Covid-19. Trump even mentioned one of them by Pfizer in his Friday news conference. Isn't it possible that if HCQ is effective against Covid-19, competitive medicines might be effective as well?
What is your problem with asking for clinical trials to prove the efficacy of any potential treatment?
Doc
When someone is in full on respiratory failure, on a ventilator, do you think they want to wait for a clinical trial?
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2 minutes ago, Scraps said:
Well you said there were 9 million treatments for Lupus. I asked you to list the first million. You gave me 2.
Regardless, many here have said the Hydroxychloroquine is the only treatment for Covid-19. Is that true?
There is no FDA approved treatment for COVID-19. HCQ is currently under investigation due to some small evidence suggesting it may be helpful. Outside of HCQ, there is nothing else besides symptomatic and supportive care.
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3 minutes ago, GG said:
These threads would be much shorter if he just admitted "Trump said it"
Right now he is googling methotrexate so he can list out all of the potential side effects and then say Trump is killing lupus patients.
11 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
Well thanks for playing but you lose. He’s an ENGINEER!!If I need to kill someone in a bridge collapse, now I know who to call.
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Just now, GG said:
Are you saying that HCQ isn't primarily a malaria drug? As for lupus and arthritis, is it the mainstay medication for those maladies? Are there alternative treatments?
You know, unlike Albuterol.
Plaquenil is first line for Lupus, but it is not the only medication used to treat lupus.
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1 minute ago, Scraps said:
Really? Can you list the first million?
Dude, you didn't even know what HCQ was used for in this country.
Methotrexate for starters. Costs about 15 bucks for a months worth or so without insurance.
What was your complaint, again?
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Just now, GG said:
Not according to Scraps apparently.
Oh, and HCQ is used as a controller medication. Lupus flares of the life threatening variety don’t wait 2-4 weeks to respond to that medication. That’s why God invented prednisone.
2 minutes ago, Scraps said:Really? What are your credentials?
MD big boy.
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Just now, GG said:
So let's hold off on giving medicine to critically ill patients until the politicians and media tell us it is safe.
BTW, what exactly did Trump say to trigger you?
There are 9 million other ways to treat lupus regardless.
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Hi, sort of an expert here. I know several instances personally where HCQ was used with good effect on COVID patients. What is your complaint?
1 minute ago, Scraps said:I'm sorry that your intellect is to limited to understand supply and demand.
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1 hour ago, eball said:
Defeatist supposed Bills fans are always priceless. Keep chastising the team’s fans for enjoying the turn of events, that’s always a good look.A turn of events? We haven’t even played the season yet. Imagine how silly you’ll look if the Texans win 11 games again next year and the Bills only win 9 or 10.
I guess knowing the phrase “counting your chickens” makes you a defeatist lol.
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9 minutes ago, first_and_ten said:
Newsflash .....Brees is one of the greatest ever
So is Montana.
The game done changed
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20 hours ago, eball said:
Who's feeling sorry for them? We're laughing at them.
5/6 winning seasons. 4 playoff appearances. Two playoff wins. Back to back double digit win seasons.
Bills fans laughing at this this guy after losing to his team in the playoffs is priceless.
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3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:
Minus those stats, he’s failed to get his team to the playoffs for 4 years in a row. Might now be a fair comparison but to me he’s Fitzpatrick with a stronger arm. He can easily be a career back up but I don’t see it for him as a starter.
but that’s just my opinion
Tyrod is starting this season presumably, I’d much rather go into a game with Famous than that bum under center.
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28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I'd have Hyde and Edmunds 4th and 5th. I just don't know who plays left tackle if Dawkins goes down and if you are bad there it wrecks games. I know some folks like Nsekhe. I have never particularly been one dating back to his Redskins days.
Oh I get you now. I was thinking more in terms of our best players at their positions, not “if they get hurt, who hurts us the most.”
I agree in that instance i suppose.
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Just now, GunnerBill said:
To me he is 3rd behind only Tre and Josh Allen in guys we can't afford to lose.
Not Hyde?!!
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@GunnerBill I agree with the 49ers going WR early. They remind me of a West Coast Bills, talented young team, a defense that has “arrived” and is better QB play away from winning a SuperBowl. Securing a true #1 makes a lot of sense.
Don’t agree with the Jordan Love Saints pick though. Not because I don’t think it doesn’t make sense. I just don’t see the Saints spending a first for life without Brees in Brees’ last season. Yeah yeah, they paid Teddy, and that worked out for them pretty well, but a first round pick sitting on the bench when there are day one contributors out there? The Saints are my guaranteed to reach to fill a hole team.
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24 minutes ago, Doc said:
It's cute you think I follow you. I was just asking about the Pegula Propaganda comment.
And yes they initially liked him...until they didn't. Happens all the time everywhere. That it's some revelation to you impresses me most.
I mean, it’s common courtesy to follow a conversation before you jump in. Especially if you’re going to go to all that trouble to make incorrect assumptions and look foolish.
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6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I can answer this without looking it up but I am probably not a good test because I can probably name 80% of the starters for most of the teams in the league. Byron Jones and the guy @thebandit27 likes - african surname begins with A - started at corner for the Cowboys in 2019. Awuize? Spelling is my issue not recognition.
I feel like Landon Collins had more name value in New York even on a bad team than Micah Hyde had here. That is where my comparison comes from.
Jones just got a ton of money in FA. I think he’s overrated but I wonder how much playing in Dallas had to do with what he ended up getting, more to Jalen’s point.
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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:
He is a straight-up jackass. I will root for him to fail.
Would he be? Like, say, Eli Apple? The Giants are bad, and one CB wouldn't have made them good. Quick: name the last few cornerbacks who started for the Cowboys without looking it up.
Byron Jones. Who just got the most GTD money by a DB ever. This game is easy lol
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40 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Or QB
Or TE
Or RB
I mean, even LB and DB. McKelvin was the last CB for sure. Aaron Williams as an S. Lots of rough names in those lists.
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The Big Gamble: Hydroxychloroquine
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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It should be added that we are in an unprecedented time. It may come out in a year than HCQ is worthless in COVID. It may come out it has done more harm than good. Some physicians may be more hesistant to use it due to the lack of evidence than others.
It’s a situation in which we do not have all of the answers in a field where we can barely expect to have some of the answers. That’s why discussion of its use should be held with your physician keeping in mind your own personal circumstance.