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    Josh Allen has moved up a few (actually a lot) steps in the PFF QB rankings for the start of the year

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    Why throw this jab in there?

     

    "The only concern with Allen’s game now is his ability to protect the football. He had the second most turnover-worthy plays (23), trailing only Carson Wentz during the regular season."

     

    They didn't do something like this for any other QB in the top 10... They can't NOT post something to slander Josh, even when complimenting him.

    Ex NY Giant And Florida St. WR Travis Rudolph Charged With 1st Degree Murder

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    1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

    When I was down south I had quite a few guys work in my organization that had burned out at Alabama. The story was the same every time: they were treated like gold and all else was washed away. While I’m sure that’s intoxicating at the time, it sets these kids up for failure long term. 
     

    My time there was pre-Saban so maybe it changed there. I hope. 

    It's probably more upbringing when they are young, and their influences while maturing... rather than a college paying for education and extending their passion to play football.

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    NY Times cites report saying NFL games with fans caused COVID spikes

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    3 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    Why would you say it is bull - it is perfectly reasonable and sound and fits exactly what should come out of a data driven study like this.

     

    They stated that they could not link the direct cause - they can see when the stadium allowed >5000 fans that the stadium and surrounding neighborhoods saw a spike in cases in 2-3 weeks and this occurred several times in several locations.  All of the underlying other factors in this situations may have been different - weather, holiday, openness/closeness of the region - these were all different variables that impacted the rates, but the general data showed consistent increases in the neighborhoods around the stadium beyond similar neighborhoods outside the area.

     

    The study makes it clear that they are not saying all or even most of the spread occurred at the games themselves - they stated that the gathering of people to attend the game lead to other large gatherings associated with the games that were not present in those same cities (or other NFL cities) when fans could not attend.  You specifically highlighted the part - it is not clear transmission occurred in the stadium, or get togethers like tailgating or traveling to get to the game, or these individuals congregating at home before the game - which includes practices such as dining out more frequently the night before, hitting up bars that might be open, etc.  

     

    What the data showed was when no fans were at the game the numbers around the stadium and in the surrounding areas were consistent, but when >5000 fans were allowed - you saw spikes in the immediate areas that were not seen in the same surrounding reasons.

     

    Second because teams allowed limited family to attend without tickets - those numbers were nearly impossible to determine and therefore the could not be used - whereas regular fans you could follow because they still listed attendance numbers.  They tried to be as consistent as possible, but I am sure if you could provide them with exact numbers of friends and family allowed into games that had no fans they could re-evaluate the data, but since that number was never recorded - the data behind it is useless.

     

    Lastly you complain that they decided not to do a mortality study based upon their findings when in reality that would be nearly impossible because the mortality rises at a much different rate and would vary.  They can look at region’s mortality rate and probably see spikes 6-8 weeks after a game and assume some of the spike was due to the gathering of fans, but as with overall mortality rate - it would be spotty and they didn’t feel it added to the data.

     

    It is no different than any post event model that looks back at these types of things and they were very thoughtful in the approach.  The things you complain about are things they purposely thought about and realized although the data supports this - it is not a direct thing.  They are only suggesting that in numerous instances after games with fans areas saw spikes and the game seems like the driver - whether it was at the game or someplace else they could not tell.

     

    That same caution plays into why in the cases where a spike was not noted and fans gathered - they do not have enough info to say what those sites did right.  Did this stadium maintain better cleaning, we’re the parking lots better patrolled, without knowing the exact reason for the spike you can’t provide an exact reason for no spike when teams did well.

     

    Overall - I do not understand why this study would make people mad or upset or complain at all.  The conclusions are all logical based upon the data and the study assigned no blame to stadiums or said that anything was their fault.  The study broke no new ground as it is quite obvious that large gatherings were the driver of the illness from the beginning.  The only thing this showed is that the NFL games with fans provided an emphasis for more large get togethers than NFL games with no fans.

    The conclusions are not logical and the wide array of variables do not make reliable. 

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    NY Times cites report saying NFL games with fans caused COVID spikes

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    2 minutes ago, nucci said:

    I listen to Drs and Nurses. I have family in the medical field

    I would think a lot of board members do. My wife is in the field.. and most of the doctors and specialists she works with also say things are way too restrictive.

    Just now, appoo said:

    Heres the thing, by Sept everyone in America will have had an opportunity to get the vaccine, and if they haven't we'd know about it.

     

    By that point, if you're not protected, that's on you.

     

    What the Rangers are doing NOW is crazy, but if they waited till Sept? No problems

    can't tell if the last sentence was serious or sarcasm

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    Mock Draft Simulator - channel your inner Brandon Beane and have fun

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    A non Collins trade back...

     

    47.

    Jay Tufele

    DT USC

    61.

    Liam Eichenberg

    OT Notre Dame

    87.

    Quinn Meinerz

    OC Wisconsin-Whitewater

    95.

    Tyler Shelvin

    DT LSU

    118.

    Chuba Hubbard

    RB Oklahoma State

    145.

    Cam Sample

    DT Tulane

    162.

    Kylin Hill

    RB Mississippi State

    170.

    Kendrick Green

    OG Illinois

    175.

    JaCoby Stevens

    S LSU

    197.

    Robert Jones

    OG Middle Tennessee

    214.

    Justin Hilliard

    LB Ohio State

    217.

    Joshua Kaindoh

    EDGE Florida State

    225.

    Tommy Doyle

    OT Miami (OH)

    234.

    Ta'Quon Graham

    DT Texas

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