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    What's wrong with Rodgers?

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    2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

    Except the rams are not a good team anymore and outside of Kupp, there’s no one really worth a damn on that offense. No running game as Akers is rumored to be getting into it with McVay now and you have a trade bust in Allen Robinson. Plus their defense is old and most players are becoming washed up

    Just because a blind man can see it, doesn’t mean the team does.  Carolina was convinced they were a contender after 4 games last year 🤣.  I agree, I think the window has closed on the Rams, they are going to have to blow it up, but I could see McVay going all in for a last shot to win before he “retires”.   Aaron Donald seems like he’s come unhinged too.. I worry that guy is going to try to kill somebody.

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    What's wrong with Rodgers?

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    1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

    Then he should’ve retired. This is the same bull#### that Rothlesberger was pulling for almost 3-4 on Pittsburgh before he finally walked away. If your already thinking about life after football then your’e already retired, the moment you stopped giving a ***** about your team as a whole, your’e already retired. Some guys just don’t know when/how to walk away. One thing I’ll give Kelly is he knew when it was time to walk away. Especially after he admitted after Hull retired he didn’t have much interest playing on Sundays anymore. 

    100% he should have hung it up, but I genuinely think he took the money grab opportunity.  I bet you he will ask for a trade or hold the Packers hostage again this off-season, try to get them to give him a buy out to retire or some BS.  He’s going to get 100M for 2 years of service, he’s smart to take it, but if he can avoid doing it anymore, I bet he will.

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    What's wrong with Rodgers?

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    11 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

    Except nobody in the NFL would be willing to give up what the packers would want back in draft capital & player trade. Plus I doubt anyone would want to deal with his diva attitude and ego

    I think you are dead wrong on that.   I could absolutely see a contender who loses their QB try to swing that, the problem is going to be the contract.   It would probably require the Packers converting all the salary to bonus and paying it out before trading him to make it work for another team.  If Stafford went down, I could see the Rams going for it.  You have to look at the windows of opportunity that some teams have and think it might be worth it.   
     

    Wilson got a great return for Seattle, and Denver ponied up big money to him… regrettably at this point..  teams get desperate.

    What's wrong with Rodgers?

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    He said it himself, he’s old and ***** hurts.  He has absolutely nobody to work with outside of a pair of decent RBs.  The Packers screwed him year after year in terms of bringing in talent, I think he took them to the shed on his last contract and doesn’t give a crap anymore.

    Was it Allen or Daboll?

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    Dabs has NY playing solid ball, with very little talent out there, but he hasn’t turned Danny Dimes into an All-Pro.  I will give credit where credit is due, Daboll is having a much larger impact that I imagined he could in NY, which makes me believe he was in fact a larger part of righting the ship here than he got credit for.  
     

    That said, Allen is Allen, he’s absolutely a Generational talent.  Dabol certainly gave him frame work to make things happen, but Josh has taken it well beyond what anyone could have hoped for.  He’s an absolute monster.

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    Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are worth infinite draft capital.

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    4 hours ago, Rock'em Sock'em said:

     

    Agree.  Pretty much every quarterback does well with Roman as an OC.  None have gotten better without him.

     

    Roman as an OC:

    2011-2012 49ers - Alex Smith - Great team record with Roman as OC, but not the best system for Alex.

    2013-2014 49ers - Kaepernick - Never played better.

    2015-2016 Bills - Taylor - Never played better.

    2017-2018 Ravens - Flacco - Tail end of career.  Winning record both years.  Not a great system for Flacco.

    2019-present Ravens - Jackson - Far exceeding expectations for his draft position.

     

    Jackson and Roman is a partnership that should not be split up.  Jackson is going to be paid big by someone or else he will be tagged.  I love that he is betting on himself.  Great player.

    You took the time to write it out and I think you hit it on the head.  I don’t think it was necessarily a bad fit for Alex Smith, but Kaep’s legs made it more dynamic.   Flacco definitely did not fit the O, no question.  Jackson has absolutely killed it, he’s basically the perfect fit for what Roman wants to do.

    Bills turn weakness into strength - 4th in NFL in YAC through 5 weeks(UPDATE: 7th by PFR stats)

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    This is definitely a product of just taking what’s there. We almost NEVER saw Diggs or any WR for that matter, get a quick screen pass outside.  With soft coverage constantly, flipping it out to him has been like a free 7 yards, might as well take it.   Also, not hating on him, but Beasley was absolutely awful for the YAC yards, Captain catch and dive killed YAC stats.   As defenses adjust to that quick flip more, I suspect you will see the YAC start to fall off a little, but if Cook or CMC start getting the ball on short throws and making something happen, it might come back up.

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    The best and worst contracts for Veteran QBs

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    On 10/11/2022 at 9:59 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    Do you honestly think that every single time you have a 4th quarter comeback, it means your were ineffective in the 1st 3 quarters?  What if you're in a shoot out or your defense isn't playing well.

     

    Here's a single season list of 4th quarter QB's.

     

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_single_season.htm

     

    The Colts went 14-2 that year, 2009 and went to the Super Bowl.  Manning had 7 4th quarter comebacks.  Was he ineffective in the first 3 quarters in those 7 games?

     

    I never said “every single time you have a 4th Q comeback, you were ineffective the first 3Qs”. I said, it makes you wonder why you are behind so often if you are the kind of comebacks.  For Manning, Brady, etc, they played a lot of years and  you expect they would fall behind at times.  I’m more surprised to see Brady having that many because I remember a lot of the glory years where they blew teams out, but we tend to forget the days where they ground a lot of games out, running the ball a lot.  Manning used to to run a very balanced attack as well.  It’s not a big shock they would run early, and make the plays needed to win late.

     

    Carr plays in a different era, if you are coming back in a passing league, either A) your team sucks or B) maybe you do as a QB.  It’s a little of both for Carr.  He’s been pretty clutch, but the Raiders often struggle to get anything going and that’s more why he has the comebacks IMO. 

    The best and worst contracts for Veteran QBs

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    5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    I mean you can't blow out every team.  Here are the Top 5 in 4th Quarter comebacks in NFL history.  It's a good stat to be a top one in.

     

    1. Peyton Manning

    2. Tom Brady

    3. Big Ben

    4. Drew Brees

    5. Matt Ryan

    I hate the comeback stat, why are you down that often?  Was it your team sucks and you are putting them on your back at the end of the game OR were you ineffective all game and this is just correcting for it?   For Carr it’sA bit of a combo.  The others on that too 5 list played for 187 years combined, so it’s kind of expected to have more opportunities.   Who was Brady behind all those years?

    MNF- Raiders @ Chiefs 10-10-22

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    34 minutes ago, Greg S said:

     

    Another thing. These calls on "roughing" the passer (Brady on Sunday) and last night need to stop. The league has to review this in the offseason. I am all for player safety as you don't want to see anyone get hurt. But they are taking it too far now. These "hits" on the QB are just regular tackles. Pretty soon the NFL will be reduced to flag football.

    I guess you are supposed to give them a hug and wait for a whistle at this point.

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    MNF- Raiders @ Chiefs 10-10-22

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    41 minutes ago, Greg S said:

     

    Especially with last night's situation. There was 4 minutes left when the Raiders made it 30-29. Extra point or not the Raiders still have to go out there and play defense with that much time. Kick the extra point to tie it up and go from there. As it turned out the Raiders did get the ball back but instead of going to OT they lost.

    Exactly, they let the whole game ride on one play.  I give them credit for trying to run it, Jacobs had been virtually unstoppable all night, so that made sense, but it should have been an effort to tie the game first and foremost.   
     

    The idiotic agreement by the announcer “the way your defense is playing you want to take the lead here”, really?  The Defense is playing like *****, so you put it all on them if you don’t get the 2pts and they still have to STOP KC from scoring to keep a lead, which BTW they did.   So worst case, you could have gone to OT. 
     

    Also, WTF were those last two play calls about? You needed 1 yard to get a first down, and you heave it downfield both tries?  Get the first with Jacobs, spike it and set up 3-4 plays to get to 15 yards for a FG.  It’s like they let a Middle School QB draw up the plans for a back yard game when his mom was yelling to come in for dinner.

    25 minutes ago, mannc said:

    KC is going to try to put together 16-play drives on us…dinking and dunking, running the ball, and Mahomes scrambling. They don’t throw the ball down the field much anymore. The Raiders actually had success blitzing Mahomes early, but then the Chiefs just wore them out.  
     

     

    It will all come down to the DL getting pressure or letting him pick you apart.  If they play soft like LV did and give him a week to throw, it’s over.

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