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DCofNC

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  1. I’m not worried about either.  Wilson is playing for the Jets, therefore, unlikely to succeed at a high level.  Jones may be fine, but there’s nothing about him that strikes fear into anyone.  Wilson has pretty elite arm, but hasn’t faced real competition and is going to, let’s say it again, the Jets. 

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  2. 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:

    The Packers should have jumped on it. Then trade the pick to a QB needy team. They drafted Jordan Love last year so obviously they’ve already started the post Rodgers plan. 

    Nah, the NFC is ripe fir the taking, good shot at a SB appearance this year with Rodgers, pretty unlikely with Love or Jimmy G.  Also, if they thought love was ready to take them to the promised land, I’m sure it would have been an option, but you are asking them to give up one of the top 3 QBs in the game right now for one of the top 3 QBs (no clue which ones) in this draft,  would you? Not this guy.

  3. 2 minutes ago, jletha said:

    https://www.theringer.com/2021/4/28/22406266/quarterback-development-nfl-draft-josh-allen-buffalo-bills

     

    Lots of GMs and coaches have the "I can develop him" ego and it only takes one to convince themself about a certain player to draft them. We will likely see a few swings and misses while teams search for "their Josh Allen" until its figured out how rare Josh exactly is.

     

    Also secretly articles like this make me nervous that somehow last season was all a dream.

    There is a very real concern that last year was a bit of a mirage, if you don’t want to believe the risk, take a look at #2 on our QB depth chart.  That said, I believe JA showed last season that he can absolutely do everything you want him to do and he has elite capability.  The difference between him and Mitch, Goff etc is the elite traits, both physically and what APPEARS to be mentally. 
     

    As far as “developing” a QB at the NFL level, I think it all goes back to the first paragraph here.  You have to start with somebody who has all the tools, and that includes the mental capacity to learn and apply the lessons.  Those guys are rare, a guy who has that, plus all the physical gifts of Allen, damn near unheard of.   There are lots of examples out there with one or the other or not quite enough of one to make it big.   I think from a fan perspective, a lot of people get hyped about the athletic ability of QB prospects, while very important, it’s not the defining part that makes or breaks a QB.  In fact, most of the greats, are limited athletes.  The hard part is, how can one figure out the mental aptitude of the prospect?  There is no real way.  It’s great to know everything, but if you go Nathan Peterman on the first blitz, doesn’t matter.   There are so really smart, really tough and exceptional “under pressure” guys who are the kings of the field.   If you find a guy who just hasn’t been taught the nuances of the position, but possesses all the rest, you can develop that.  That “it” factor is impossible to judge IMO and that’s what’s going to determine if you are Blake Bortles or Josh Allen. 

  4. Let’s be honest, you don’t wait to take a QB, you think you see a guy who can be a franchise guy and nobody cares where you picked him if he hits.

     

    Case and point, who remembers what the Bills had to do to get up to take Allen?  It was a small fortune to do it, but does anybody care?  Nope. 
     

    Maholmes wasn’t a lock for the first round according to many, going into the draft, fell to a team desperate for a QB who promptly traded back in one of the worst moves ever.  
     

    The draft is a crapshoot in all honesty.

  5. 19 hours ago, Limeaid said:

     

    It is not required due to resistance of union.  They also resist OTAs, penalties for players deliberatrly injuring other players and safety equipment.

    Do not think teams should pay for players who do not at least make effort.

    Well it could also be argued that players are constantly fined and suspended for non approved drugs in their system, so asking them to take an experimental vax is a real issue.

  6. 13 hours ago, jethro_tull said:

    this reminds me of an incident that happened to the bear's lance briggs several years ago.  he crashed his lamborghini into an expressway light pole late sat night and left it there, never reporting the accident.  

    he was charged with leaving the scene of an accident, much better than the alternative !  

    Yep, I have seen that scenario play out many times.  Better to take that ticket than the UI charge.

  7. 2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

    There is only one scoreboard that counts! It's called winning football games. 

    10-6, 13-3...

    We'll see how 2021 goes, shall we?

     

    I've been with this team and the NFL for 40+ years now. I get to be a homer if I want but in this case the burden of proof falls on the guy calling the front office inept while they put together a winner on the field. 

    You are choosing to ignore the actual argument here.  They hit on the QB and as has been said, he is carrying the underwhelming D that has had multiple top picks spent on it, with zero impact players.  If you can’t see it, there’s no point in debating anything here anyway.

  8. 24 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

    "Lucky as hell" with Allen? LOL. They scouted the hell out of that pick and nailed it. 

    At the end of the day, you sound like a loser who bet against the franchise and is making excuses. All I have to say is "scoreboard". Look at the W's and L's. These guys are nailing it. 

    They hit on one pick, the scoreboard says otherwise.  But you go on being a homer. 3 drafts, one impact player from all of them. One.  

    2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    That is the list we should really be looking at if we are talking where does Edmunds fit in this market. got rid of the 3-4 edge rushers. 

    Well done, this was my thinking too.  These guys are paid to rush the passer.  He belongs in the MLB pay scale conversation.  To me he’s not as valuable as Milano, so the discussion starts there. 

    The next question is, with the contract that’s coming for JA, is there room for $20+ M a year in LBs who aren’t real difference makers?  To this point, Edmunds is slightly above replacement level player and we are acting like he deserves to be paid top 5 at his position.  Absolutely, unequivocally, he is not worth that.  He is rivaling Clowney for most over rated player by fans and announcers alike because of his draft analysis.  They were calling him the next LT,  the only reason to bring him and Taylor up in the same conversation is to ask if LT is filing a defamation suit against ESPN for mentioning him in comparison to this guy.  He’s a hell of an athlete, but he’s not a great football player.  He has next to nothing in terms of instincts or feel for the game.  Good qbs manipulate him so easily in coverage it’s a joke, he can’t shed blockers coming north/south and he can’t stay with TEs in coverage, so what exactly is it that he does to justify his hype?  Paul Posluzney all over again.  Go let somebody else pay you, we can do as well or better for far less.

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