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28 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprise to see either happen, although I feel like CMC would be significantly less likely. We can actually fairly easily fit him in here cap wise this season, but he is a one year rental, they are not going to pay him next year as Free Agent no matter how good he plays. This is a passing offense, 0% chance they invest in a RB contract wise. With that being known, I can't see Beane giving up a valuable draft asset we will need (and they keep succeeding with) to keep young talent coming into this roster with all the player contracts we have given out to keep or add important players.
Plus Devin has shown to be very good for us when given rush attempts, we just haven't rushed the ball. Not saying he is on CMC level, but its not like we have a problem rushing the ball, its that we just don't do it very often. But the reason I said I still won't be surprised if we traded for CMC (even though I think its very unlikely) is because I do feel like Beane is all in on a Super Bowl this year...so he may say F it and just pull the trigger if he felt that got us over the top.
So...coming back to all this, I think the most plausible scenario is OBJ obviously, but even that is not a certainty.
Actually he is not expensive this year, and we can easily fit him in. That being said, I think there almost no chance we trade for him for reasons I already posted. But just saying the cost part of it isn't really relevant because we can fit him in and this is the last year of his deal.
This is not the last year of his deal, he’s signed through 2026, it’s probably not even the last year he will see on this deal, it would be 18M in dead cap to cut/trade him next season too.
There’s no way the Bills would take on his deal, I’m not sure anybody would honestly.
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I want to see Hill get his @$$ dropped a number of times, guy needs to be shut up.
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4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
Mahomes had a PLAYOFF team backing him up FFS.
He had a #1 and # 2 WR
The Bills had who?
Zay Jones and McKitrich
Bob Foster and Ray Ray
Reading must be hard.
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1 hour ago, jkeerie said:
Okay...they looked as good as Blackshear did in preseason. Or is that argument only valid with Blackshear. Both CBs drafted in this draft are starting. It is not a thin position. We've got better CB depth than any team in the league. Cook did not sit behind, I think you're talking about White. They split carries. Both backs were used by Georgia, rather effectively, I might add. The speed of the game in the Pros is faster. RBs need to learn quite a lot when they make the jump. He's had a handful of carries thus far...and you want to judge his career on that?
I see your Homerism will not be reasoned with, good day, Go Bills!-
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2 hours ago, AuntieEm said:
Well if a player is really one the team does not want to lose they can offer to pay him a bonus to not sign with another team.
The minimum pay for being on the active roster is HUGE in comparison to practice squad, most players will take it.
33 minutes ago, BananaB said:One less RB they can shove into the rotation. Last year a two man rotation didn’t work so they cut it down to me one and had success. This year they come out with a three man rotation and it looks to be our weakness again.
Gotta love it. McClappy makes me want to McSlappy him for personnel choices at times. RB is one he sure hasn’t gotten right yet.
2 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:How much time does Cook need to learn?
Buffalo tends to draft for traits. You highlighted everything he struggles with and literally said nothing positive about him.
- Fast - 4.42 speed, but also it seems like its a fairly sudden speed out of his blocks.
- Patience - doesn't just blaze right into his blocks
- Solid hands - mismatch against LBs
- Cuts - Has the ability to make cuts with speed to gain additional yards
None of which matters when you can’t get on the field because you can’t block and the fact he doesn’t offer anything from a running perspective means they basically drafted a slot WR who lines up funny.
Hope I’m wrong, but based on the current track record of RBs in the McBeane era, I’m betting I’m not.
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5 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:
damn. I would have to rewrite my last post. 😞
my point standssome stats are useless
How many games was Tua benched?
How many games was Josh benched?
please
Lol, if the Bills had Fitz, Josh wouldn’t have started, so that comparison is also useless. JA had no business playing his rookie year and it was obvious. What we got to see is what would have happened if Maholmes played his rookie year AND you took away the whole team in front of him 😂
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52 minutes ago, jkeerie said:
And one pass for 7 yards in the second game of the season.
As to the rest of your post...Moss and Cook are good backs. Cook just needs more time to learn. Blackshear looked great in preseason but that was against backups, so you can really gauge. He may well end up being a good back.
CB and LB in the second? We drafted two of each and those 4 players are looking very good right now, so your argument is lost on me.
I trust Beane and McD more than the average fan. Teller was a mistake that they readily admit. I think they do know how to draft, though as evidenced by the end result.
How would you classify the LBs “looking good” based on the fact they haven’t been on the field outside of garbage time?
CB is easily the thinnest position on the roster, you can’t see how we could use another top talent there?
How much time does Cook need to learn? He couldn’t start at Georgia, sitting behind a back that’s barely hanging on to a roster spot in the NFL. Yeah, he’s got a couple of nice traits, but he’s never done anything with them. He’s a pass catching back, that offers zero versatility, no blocking and is useless between the tackles, sounds like a hell of a 2nd round pick. I know you think you got Dalvin Cook, but you got Cooper Manning and don’t recognize it yet.
30 minutes ago, Draconator said:McCaffrey to Buffalo. I just know it.
That would be epic, 99.9% not happening, but damn.
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1 minute ago, Chuck Schick said:
Is this for real? Ugly?
At this point, there’s not even a borderline starter on the roster outside of Motor. Have to do something.
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7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
In other news the Bills third string running back (Cook) had 53 yds on 11 Carry’s against a regular season NFL defense with Case Keenum under center
Apparently you missed the part where TN pulled most of their key guys too. That became the 4th preseason game. He also looked terrible between the tackles yet again.
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On 9/20/2022 at 8:45 AM, Royale with Cheese said:
I liked Rosseau rushing from the inside.
If we on 3rd and 6 or more have a package like:
Miller - Oliver - Rosseau - AJ.....that is a strong pass rushing package.
He had a lot of success in College from the inside and got a sack from there this week, I would be surprised if they don’t try it more. I believe you probably have to throw Boogie or Lawson beside him to be a heavy edge, to avoid an easy gain on the ground as he flies upfield, but maybe not. In a NASCAR package, him, Phillips, Boogie and Von would be interesting. Oliver would be fine in place of Phillips, but I think Phillips is actually better as a rusher.
6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:So Kyle Trimble has a summary/prediction up including a couple players injured during the game.
https://bangedupbills.com/2022/09/21/buffalo-bills-vs-tennessee-titans-week-2-injury-recap/
Ed Oliver - ankle (predicts his return due to type of injury/timeline)
Gabe Davis - ankle (predicts his return due to type of injury/timeline)
Tim Settle - calf (says he's possible, but not certain due to type of injury/timeline)
Mitch Morse - elbow (since he returned to the game, predicts he's likely to play)
Dane Jackson - neck (likely to miss 1 or more games, needs to "get right")
Micah Hyde - neck (predicts he is likely to play)
Matt Milano - stinger (predicts he is likely to play)
Jordan Phillips - hamstring (predicts he is likely out, due to Bills historical management of hammys)
Two other additions:
Dawson Knox - foot (had it taped and returned to the game, likely to play)
Reggie Gilliam - L elbow/forearm (seen wearing a brace in the 2nd half)
Seems reasonable, Hyde and Jackson will be the biggest impact, would be nice to have them both back IF they are healthy. Hyde is special, I’d really like to see him back at minimum.
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I like the kid, would have liked to see him actually unseat Moss, but the reality is, he would be on the roster we’re it not for Cook being a 2nd round pick. It’s clear to see who performed better, but the Cook miss-draft cost Blackshear his spot.
It would be cool if there was ever a decision made based on performance, not draft/salary implications. Beane has done a hell of a job building a really good roster. That is first and foremost, but McBean have made some real bad calls.
Teller got the boot bc of Ford being a 2nd round pick, turned into an All-pro, the Bills favored draft status and veteran incompetence over talent. Now you see the same thing coming back again, Howard going off for 2 TDs after a week in the Texans system, meanwhile, Sweeney is inactive. I am happy Morris made the roster, but Sweeney? Really? Now look at Cook and Moss taking up not one but TWO game day spots because the FO can’t identify a decent RB in the draft to save their lives. 2 third round picks, and a second round pick spent over 4 years to have ONE, slightly better than replacement level RB on the roster.. I guess when you can’t sign a marginal $3M pass catching back, you should just draft a lesser one in the second round. Makes sense. They could have spent that second round pick this year on an impactful position like CB or LB, but here we are with a RB that can’t get on the field, when there are guys on the street that would be an upgrade to RB 2.
I love where the team is, but the wasted early round picks bother me. There have been many opportunities to make this team better than they are and Beane simply outsmarted himself. He seems to fall in love with a player/idea of a role, for some reason and can’t move off that. It’s probably his only glaring flaw, thank God he was locked in on getting JA, I guess we will never know if it was really the case that he wanted JA or one of the others and had to settle, but he moved up to get that QB and absolutely killed it. Having JA will hide a lot of flaws, hopefully we will find a real RB eventually. It’s going to be ugly once Motor leaves, he’s not great, but the drop off means we are going to have to do something.
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Quick, cut Moss and elevate him!
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20 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said:
They keep lining up in a shotgun formation on short yardage for some reason. Just line up in an I formation with Gilliam and Singletary and either give it to Devin or have Josh sneak. They're just overthinking it.
100%, get out of shot gun.
19 minutes ago, MJS said:I think we have finesse guys on the oline. They struggle when we need to just line up and push the opposing line.
That's why the Bills try to resort to trick plays and misdirection to pick those up. They don't have confidence in the ability to just muscle out the 1 yard.
At this point I'd rather see 3rd and 4 than 3rd and 1.
In fairness, they have been up against 2 of the very best in the game at DT the first 2 weeks, so maybe they don’t have confidence they can win THAT battle. Probably a good call, I don’t think out OL could move either of those guys one on one. Maybe it’s more to do with understanding the match up and looking for ways to keep Josh from getting killed early in the year.
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1 hour ago, Rc2catch said:
I know one player that does not want to see 57 this week.. Epenesa almost broke Tua in half last year.
He might be the hardest hitter on the defense, he really brings it when he has the opportunity.
he probably won’t see him until the second half when the Bills are up 28 and the starters are resting, but he’ll see him. -
Depends if they can keep feeding him or teams turn to just trying to shut him down.. I’d guess there will be a few teams who will try to make somebody else beat them the way the Chefs did. If that happens, his numbers will dwindle. A lot of teams won’t be able to do it and that quick flip outside they used last game should be there, so I’m going to say
111 catches
1327 yards
12 TDs
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As long as Allen is here and healthy, they will have a shot to compete. Look at all the great QBs, Brady, Manning, Breese, Rodgers, Maholmes.. you have one, you have a shot.
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10 hours ago, starrymessenger said:
Von Miller is to this D what Allen is to the O. They raise everybody’s game. Few players can do that. Bills have two.
Honestly, I think it’s 3, Diggs has had such an impact on the WRs it’s nuts.
11 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:Not my view. On O its much more Alan than Diggs who elevates the competitiveness and expectations of those around him (including Digg’s). I see Von Miller as having that sort of influence on the D., inspiring his teammates, bringing the young ones along, instilling confidence etc…The fact that neither Diggs or Miller are home grown may be something that they have in common but that is to me irrelevant to the analysis.
Diggs is a top shelf # 1 and in the discussion of the best right now. But I’ve got to say that for all the deserved kudos he got the laser and the long ball yesterday were the real story on those TDs. Many good WRs could have made those catches. Fewer QBs can make either of those throws.
I see where you are coming from and I do agree Allen elevates the entire O. I still recall the massive jump from the WRs we saw once Diggs entered the room.
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13 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
Oh yea everything else was a train wreck for them…but that defense presented some challenges last night. Their front 7 was dominant early on which is the kind of game we usually lose since it makes us completely one dimensional.
Yeah, their Front 7 is definitely a good one. If they can get their O going, they will not be fun to deal with later in the year. I found the strategy of the Bills very interesting last night, completely selling out to stop the run in the first series, and then backing right off from there on out. I wonder if it wasn’t a “don’t let Henry get going and we will deal w Tannehill from there” type of mind game. I was pleasantly surprised to see the Bills limit them from there. They really managed to keep Henry from being a factor even in the Base D without some of the better players on the field. That was impressive, if they can control the run like that all year, the cover 2 with good pressure up front will make things tough for teams all year.
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7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
Crowder looked good week 1. McKenzie had some huge games in the slot last season. I think we are writing off the titans as all around horrible because we absolutely obliterated them but that front 7 is nasty and they have some of the best safeties in the league.
I agree we have some inside WRs, but aside from Diggs and Davis, there’s nobody that’s more than replacement level outside and that’s making the assumption that Davis is more than he has produced thus far in his career. The Titans are a solid team, I think they are kinda like catching KC early in the year last season. They are obviously not where they want to be yet.
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So happy to hear he’s not seriously injured. Prayers for a speedy recovery and return.
Selfishly, I hope he gets back on the field quickly. He has been playing very well, it’s a loss to the team to not have him. It’s an opening for other guys to take his role, which would doubly suck for him, so I hope he is able to jump back in quickly.
I would imagine, as soon as there is no swelling/inflammation to the spinal cord, which maybe there isn’t any for all we know, he would be released to play as pain allows. No doubt he’s going to be sore for a while and the position requires you to be able to cleanly snap your head around, so at a minimum I would expect him to miss this week. I certainly would not be shocked to see him out for a while though. Big thing is, he’s generally ok, that was scary looking.
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17 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
Agree with this. Cook's explosion and elusiveness seems to be lacking. Perhaps it's just not there? Shakir should be fine, as you said, he's a rookie, 1st game. We have a great WR room and coach.
I'm not as down on Kumerow being the next guy up, but as you stated, what if an injury lingers or another WR gets hurt. We are not deep there.
We also lost the coin toss, again. Just pick tails all year or something.
Overall, great game. Even better when you think of who we were missing: 2 pro-bowl level players (White/Oliver); our top backup CB (Jackson), #2 WR (Davis), and likely #2 DT or main part of the rotation (Settle). Just unreal. Everyone on the D was on fire against the run. Liked seeing Benford early in the game shed a blocker and bring down Henry. Seemed to set the tone.
Nailed it.
Adding on, this ONE WR injury points out what a lot of us have been saying, the illusion of WR depth all off season was/is a joke, there is none. It’s Diggs and a bunch of nobodies. Kumero exceeded my expectations, good game.
I stand by my original statement of Cook being a wasted 2nd round pick, he may be fine, but it was a bad pick for value, need and just the flat out obvious, the scouts on this team don’t know what a RB looks like.
Really good game overall. Was really happy to see them stop selling out on the run after the first series and magically they were good all night.
3 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:Sure thing, since we ran out of them so fast. Challenges like timeouts, are a tool to use when you need them.
There have been times when we needed them and were out bc of stupid usage. You don’t know when wasting one will cost you a game.
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2 hours ago, sherpa said:
I suspect that might have been a "strategic" challenge.
They were going to take a timeout, and why not challenge instead.
A challenge is way to valuable to waste like that.
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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I don’t follow the Broncos closely but my friend does. He told me Elway has been stripped of all football decisions because of how bad he’s been. He’s just a figure head for the organization and if he wasn’t a legend, would have been fired.
The new GM makes the football decisions. Elway might be a part of it but everything runs through the GM.
I suspect that’s about the same as saying Whaley was the GM, but Buddy Nix was still in the building. Doesn’t really matter, but either way, they are hurting.
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13 minutes ago, Process said:
Untradeable IMO. He offers nothing. There are likely several guys on practice squads they can just sign and get the same production from.
Will need to hope McDermott stops being so stubborn in his ways and starts making him inactive and rolling with Singletary.
But hope you are right.
Moss has no trade value, you are spot on. If cut, he’d be lucky to catch on an active roster at this point.
I have to assume, Gilliam hasn’t shown the ability to be the hammer in practice. Otherwise, he would be getting those carries.
OBJ or Christian McCaffrey
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To the point of the OP, I’m going for OBJ all day, he’s a player at a position of absolutely zero depth. IDGAF what the homers think, beyond the starters, we don’t have a single player on the outside that’s anything more than a replacement level player. Davis has never been more than a mediocre #2, I know there are high hopes/expectations, but he’s never done it. So the reality is it’s Diggs and a bunch of Jags, until Davis proves he’s more than that. Even so, if Diggs goes down, there’s nobody who’s even remotely capable of making up for that. To have the opportunity to put OBJ out there with Diggs and Davis would be awesome, to know if somebody gets hurt, you have a REAL second option is priceless to a team w Championship aspirations.