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Sure that’s the bottom line, and that’s why he's playing. Like I said in the original post his ability to complete short passes is critical to our offense. I just hope our expectation on how a QB should play has not fallen so low that we call Holcomb’s play excellent. It was good enough to win against the Jets, and Dolphins, but it must get a lot better to really consider this team a playoff contender. Either that or the defense needs to play like last year, and I don’t see that happening at this point

Easy with the Tom Brady analogy, Brady may not be known for having a canon but he still throws a great deep ball. Kelly has yet to show us that he has the particular attribute. I'm not trying to rag on Holcomb at all, but if we lose this game he is the goat not the hero is being made out to be. He should be starting because he does give this team a better chance to win then JP would, but we all need to stay level with our expectations of Kelly. He has a couple picks, and some questionable decisions, and has yet to complete a ball downfield. He's made up for that with great short throws that have kept the chains moving. That is certainly more production then JP would be getting, but not more so then your average NFL QB.

I factored that in my logic, and again I think Kelly has brought things to the table that JP couldn't bring. He has been a positive factor in both wins, but he is not the reason for them both, and is not a good enough player to overcome the rest of the team playing poorly.

Only the return of Ben Coats could make this scenario worse then it already is. Bye week, home game, off a loss, national TV, and the return of Teddy. That pretty much combines all the situations the Bills have struggled in the past few years against the team they have struggled the most with.

Despite the fact that Kelly is not fully assimilated with the offense I think it's safe to say what kind of QB we have after 2 weeks. What he brings to this offense is the ability to make third down more manageable by converting short passes. That ability means a lot to an offense that wants to control the clock. JP wasn't putting our offense in these types of situations, so yes Kelly has had a big impact on both wins. But at the same time don't discredit how important turnovers and the ground game have been the last two weeks. Kelly is not a game changing QB, but with good play elsewhere he is a QB that we can win with. He seems like a player that would rather check down then take any chance downfield. Perhaps somebody at the games could comment on this, but he doesn't appear to have the arm strength to go downfield. Unfortunately I also have noticed some things in his play that might not have killed us the last two games, but could haunt us down the road. Much like the last QB he doesn’t seem to have much pocket presence and doesn’t protect the football that well. He also has made some panicked decisions that led to INT’s, or potential fumbles on backward passes. The positive is he gets rid of the ball quick, so even though he will make some poor pressure induced decisions he usually has checked down before it reaches that point. We can win with Kelly, and at this point we give ourselves a better chance then if JP was in the game. But Kelly is not a world beater, and for us to keep winning the other phases of our team must play well. This isn't as simple as saying Holcomb is 2-0 and JP is 1-3, Holcomb has gotten plenty of help, and when you figure in the Texans game all three of our victories have been games in which we won the turnover battle, and ran the ball 25+ times.

I think those observations are spot on. Holcomb at times looks like he's a decent QB, but he is not close to being a game changing player. I also thought JP might be able to win the last two given the ground game, and turnovers. But you can't completely discredit what Holcomb brings to this offense, and that’s the ability to create third and short, and pick up yardage threw the air via his west coast style passes. Terrance IMO is the games best return man, and that includes Daunte Hall. He's just unreal to watch and reminds me a little of Barry Sanders with the way he runs. He doesn't possess Barry's agility, no player ever has, but he runs with the same shiftiness in his shoulders that Barry used to.

I'm not guaranteeing a loss in New England, but let’s face the facts about that match up. The Patriots coming off a loss, at home, with two weeks to prepare, on Sunday night football. Talk about combining every factor that's bit us in the ass the last few years. The Bills fan in me could never bet against Buffalo, but the handicapper in me is drooling over what will probably be the Patriots favored by less then a touchdown. All this makes the Raiders game that much more important. A loss to them and the Patriots game is a must win for our playoff chances. Otherwise you go into the bye 3-5, with plenty of difficult games left. I would feel much better about our chances if the real must win game against the Patriots is in Buffalo, and if we can beat Oakland that really increases the chances of that happening.

Just like last year it seems many people believe AFC record is relevant in breaking a division tie. Under the old playoff format it followed division record, but after realignment common opponent moved ahead of conference record. The fact is when you look at our common opponent record with New England things don't look so good. The Bills are 0-3 against teams New England played or will play, and the Patriots are 2-3 against teams the Bills played or will play. You also need to take in consideration that those records are against our weakest portion of the schedule and New England’s most difficult. Not tying to piss on the first place talk, but in order to win this division we will either need to beat New England twice, have a better division record, or better record overall. Our undefeated conference record is great for a Wild Card, but just not as important to our division chances.

Rian Lindell is having a Pro Bowl year, it would rock if he keeps up with the consistency.

I only ask because we play them next week and he currently has no points on my fantasy team. That would improve our chances big time next week in Oakland.

They have played a very difficult schedule, by far the worst in the NFL. A couple of the wins they had were against some good teams on the road. I would say they look like a wild card team right now, certainly not a Super Bowl team.

I probably over estimated how much people want Drew back, but I still can't understand how people feel Drew has gone threw a metamorphous. I expected him to play really well in Dallas, he is a a very good QB for the players they have. Some people believe you can just plug and play a successful QB, or that a bad QB on one team will be a bad QB on every team. Maybe a few players fit that mold, but certainly not Drew, and certainly not the majority of the QB's. We never surrounded Drew with players that catered to his play, and while I fault TD for this I also factor in just how much Drew does need. Bottom line, he would be struggling big time right now if he was still in Buffalo. Perhaps even worse then he has in past years. The line has had a host of injuries, and has not been pass blocking very well, and TE's have been non existent.

Although that’s not the case within the division, it goes to common opponents after division record. Right now the Bills are 0-3 against teams New England has played or will play, with the exception of our divison oponents, and New England is 2-2 against teams we have played or will play. The AFC record is big for the wild card, and the must win the division mentality is getting a little overplayed here. The wild card spots aren't close to being locked by anybody right now, and with our AFC record we could certainly be in running if we improve.

For those getting a hard on for Bledsoe’s great start don't you remember a similar start for the Bills? Get over it people, he's not here anymore, and even if he was he wouldn't be putting up numbers anywhere close to what he is now. It's not like we didn't know he had a cannon or a pretty deep ball, when given time he has always been a solid player. When he's got a pocket he is a good qb, even his horrible tenure as Bills qb showed that. The problem is he is one of the leagues worst QB's when under pressure, not exactly a perfect fit for the Bills. We need a QB that gets it out quick, is accurate on short throws, and limits mistakes under duress. Drew has none of those qualities, Holcomb has them all, and JP has the potential to have them all. Drew could throw for 40 TD's this year and it still won't make the decision to release him a poor move. He just doesn't fit the personnel, and scheme of our offense. Pressure him and he will fold, it will happen in Dallas just as it happened in Buffalo. Just like New England fans told us, Drew will wow you only to break your heart time and time again. I wish him the best in Dallas, but he is just not a good fit for this team, and it's absurd that so many people are pining for him again after what we witnessed the last few years. BEAT THE JETS!!!!!!!!!

Update on the situation Apparently the mayor and police did recognize that this situation would escalate into violence. They warned the Nazi protestors that they could not protect them (only 20 people) and that if they went threw with the march they would be at serious risk. They decided to leave town, but that didn’t stop the people protesting the Nazi's from rioting themselves. The 600 or so people protesting the Nazi march had some time to kill so they decided they didn't like the police (quote from a witness) and rioted anyway. It was a pretty crazy scene from the footage captured. The protestors started throwing rocks and bricks at the cops and cop cars, and lighting cars and buildings on fire. I agree that this is exactly what the Nazi's wanted; to bad it had to come to this.

So I'm sitting at home watching the USC/ND game and the news flashes across my TV. A Nazi rally was to take place in North Toledo this Saturday, for those that don't know North Toledo is a primarily black area. Sure they have the right to rally, this is America and despite how ignorant your opinion is you’re allowed to scream it from a megaphone. My problem is this rally has been planed for weeks, and the location has been known. A three year old could tell this was going to be a very ugly situation, and it has developed into just that. At what point should you take preemptive action when violence appears to be inevitable? I'm sure some of you will say never, and I can't disagree with that stance. The ability to express different opinions is what makes this country great. But at the same token this rally was meant to insight people, and the violence and burning buildings were not exactly an unforeseeable event. Regardless of how you feel about the rights of these Nazis those peaces of sh-- got what was coming.

I think it comes down to one thing, and that is we must split with the Patriots. A sweep of Miami and New York won't be easy, it's possible because neither team is excellent, but we haven't exactly exhibited that quality either. If we improve steadily threw out the season I think we can sweep the Jets and Dolphins, but what about the pesky Patriots? Even missing both coordinators, and having a host of injuries this is still a very good team. As it stands we would lose both, and even with a ton of improvement against the Jets and Oakland I give us little chance to win Sunday night in Foxboro (what evidence do we have that any Bills team the last 5 years could win this game?). That said we get New England in Buffalo, in the winter. Not like the Patriots don't know how to play in a cold climate, but that kind of weather can really be a wild card. Besides the weather if the Bills are still in it by the second New England game that means we have improved dramatically. If we can beat the Patriots in one of the two, and go 5-1 in the division we have a decent chance at the playoffs. In the meantime we need to hope New England struggles against our common opponents, because in the event of a division tie, and record tie, within the division it comes down to common opponents, not AFC record. Right now Buffalo is 0-2 against teams New England has played, or will play, and New England is 2-2 against teams Buffalo has played, or will play. That excludes division teams, as the Division tiebreaker is before the common opponent tiebreaker.

It did have the motion of a hyperextension, but I just thought it stretched a little past that. I would say the best case scenario is 5 weeks.

He's playing REALLY well though this season, and after watching a few Steelers games is a huge part of that team. People used to say Brady was overrated, and it was the system, But he just kept winning and Big Ben is doing the same thing. As for Maddox he didn't even come in when Ben got hurt, Batch did. So who knows what the deal is With Maddox right now.

Last minute of the Chargers game a helmet goes right on his knee. Looks like he tore a ligament for sure, that could really hurt the Steelers chances.

-Brian Finneran has got to have the best hands on the NFL. He's a very underrated player, reminds me a lot of Ed McCafrey -Drew Bledsoe is a great QB when he has time, but one of the worst when he doesn't. For those wishing he was still here consider the pressure being put on our QB's the last 6 weeks. -The win felt nice, and Holcomb played well, but despite his horrible play to much blame has been placed on JP. If you give this team the support of 18 penalties and 5 turnovers in New Orleans/San Antonio they probably win that game. Point is it's a team game and neither Holcomb or JP are good enough to win by themselves -The NFC South might force the NFL to change its playoff format. I know they probably won't change it, but the winner of this division won't be .500. It will be a disgrace for anyone of those teams to make the playoffs. They should have a rule that you need to be at least .500 to get in, and if not an additional Wild Card should be awarded. -Unless a college QB comes polished and "NFL ready" no team should take a QB in the first round. By polished I'm talking about only five or six guys deserving of that status in the last 5 years. Bring in a veteran and draft a QB in round 3 or later. Let him ride the pine, and develop in a pressure free environment.

This was a turning point kick for my confidence in Lindell. Even after the hot start he still wasn't kicking anything past 45, and none of the kicks were late pressure kicks. Then he missed last week and I really felt it killed any confidence the lackluster offense had. But his 47 yarder today accomplished two things, for one it was a distance he has struggled at, and two we had a ton riding on the kick. Big props to Lindell today

3 points is a general rule of thumb but not always the case. For a really strong home team, or public team, you might see that figure raise a little, visa versa with a weak team. You also need to remember that the books job is not to accurately predict the outcome of the game; it's to predict what the public feels the outcome of the game will be. Public perception for both the Jets and Bills went up this weekend.

My guess would be Bills -3.5 After the TB win the Jets have about as much creditability as the Dolphins in the Publics mind. Factor in Holcomb getting the Win and it should boost the line up a point or so from the Dolphins game.

The Jets defense is still good, and you know Martin will see about 30 touches. I can't see Vinny doing much but the Jets are capable of beating us based on the first two things I mentioned. It's certainly a winnable game, and is a must win if we want to make anything of our season.