daz28

It seems from what you're saying the infection rate is likely ridiculously high, is that correct? How would you compare it to most flu's from the data you've seen? 6 times? People tend to focus on mortality rate, but a high infection rate makes that number far worse than it really is. That's the thing I think most people don't understand. say you're playing cards, and if you get the Jack of hearts you die. No big deal, except no one told you had to draw 5 cards.

Just curious which other nations you thought might have had WMD at the time? Even so, Syria was using chemical, but Obama would have been screwed if he did or didn't go in. He chose not to have another Iraq, and Republicans pounded him for it. FWIW I applaud Trump for not being a war monger

When asked how we could be sure it wouldn't be a clown show, he said, and I quote, "I'll oversee it".

Anyways, on to the next example of why you, quote, " NEVER EVER EVER GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS": (b) A Fourth Amendment "seizure" occurs when a vehicle is stopped at a checkpoint. See Martinez-Fuerte, supra, at 556. Thus, the question here is whether such seizures are "reasonable." P. 450. (c) There is no dispute about the magnitude of, and the States' interest in eradicating, the drunken driving problem. The courts below accurately gauged the "objective" intrusion, measured by the seizure's duration and the investigation's intensity, as minimal. However, they [496 U.S. 444, 445] misread this Court's cases concerning the degree of "subjective intrusion" and the potential for generating fear and surprise. The "fear and surprise" to be considered are not the natural fear of one who has been drinking over the prospect of being stopped at a checkpoint but, rather, the fear and surprise engendered in law-abiding motorists by the nature of the particular stop, such as one made by a roving patrol operating on a seldom-traveled road. Here, checkpoints are selected pursuant to guidelines, and uniformed officers stop every vehicle. The resulting intrusion is constitutionally indistinguishable from the stops upheld in Martinez-Fuerte. Pp. 451-453. Now from your fearful perspective of losing a right, what could be worse than giving up your right to seizure? This was instituted over drunk driving, not a deadly disease that kills 80k in 2 months. You are truly as disingenuous or outright stupid as you can be Shall we move on to the Patriot Act or are we good. I think I covered a bunch of over reaches that far exceed anything that Covid is really doing

The question is what were they driving until 1959, and why did we let them decide that it was a privilege for us to move about. The model T came out in like 1902, so that's a few years, and many states didn't allow the bs until close to then You still haven't told me which right Covid is going to be taking form you ya disingenuous bastard

So driving wasn't a right in South Dakota from 1886-1959 until they decided it was a privilege? BUTTTTT COVIDDDDDD I should have known you clowns wouldn't even hold to your own ideals just to spite. Should have known WHEN DID THAT TRANSITION HAPPEN? DON'T BE A TARD. The whole point is WHEN did they take that right away

That's not the police/government. I can shut a road down by running my flock of sheep across it too The only circle I'm going in is hoping you'll read the facts I'm giving you, and you won't

In 1886, German inventor Karl Benz patented what is generally regarded as the first modern car In 1959, South Dakota became the final state to institute a driver’s exam requirement. I'm sorry show me where I'm not being truthful

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/496/444.html Police v. Sitz Except I'm laying facts while assclowns lol

The Supreme Courts rationale for roadblocks is that the threat to society from DWI is too great to sustain their right to have a reason to be stopped. Ya'll might want to look it up

Read the Supreme Court case rationale then tell me I'm stupid

Was I born with a license plate? DR feels threatened

https://traffic.findlaw.com/traffic-stops/can-the-police-set-up-roadblocks-for-any-reason-.html

Anyone who stops at a road check is being stopped for no reason

Duhhr hurr cuz moving from place to place wasn't an inalienable right. It was BORN to require a license, insurance, inspection, and 10k other things

People fear of DWI is why the police can set up roadblocks anywhere anytime

Because forever and ever they couldn't stop you without a reason ...and the examples I gave are rights you gave up

No coercion there.

That's the 7th time you twisted that. I said, and I repeat, I said we should be smart enough to know when to give them up, and strong enough to not let them take advantage in extreme circumstances Say I got 10 DWI's isn't the roadblock the same rights you are arguing about right now?? Why should you lose your rights cuz I'm a drunk?

Same thing. Also, the draws may be used as compliance for a crime. They might drug test you for years, while all other Americans don't get tested. Even though everyone else is doing the exact same thing, I guess cuz I got caught I lost my rights?

I have probable cause to believe you have Covid, so gimme a sample Really, so the driver's license wasn't written into the Constitution so it's not a right? How about we use that newfound privilege to stop deadbeat dads

Where's my right to walk and chew gum enumerated? Are you saying I have no right to travel? Are you saying that they had drivers licenses for the first cars?

To test for drugs/alcohol?? They also can take your hair. They can take your urine. All of these belong to my persons and should be secure. What will they take and use these things for next? Your turn

I don't blame him for Covid, but nice deflect. well it was weak actually, but can you tell me anything about that $6 trillion went or are you just assuming it's in good hands?

It was a right before it was a privilege. I'm sure you're aware of that. you're working against yourself here. When did boating need a license? How much did they charge the apostles to cast their nets?