[Ravens and Lamar do not reach contract agreement]

On 11/30/2022 at 1:12 PM, Gugny said:

 

 ... said the person who chose to click on a thread title which clearly is not Bills-related, then chose to comment on a thread that is clearly not Bills-related, only to ask, "who cares?" because .... wait for it .... it's not Bills-related.

 

I f*cking love this place.

I've just been annoyed that there hasn't been any new Edmund's bashing threads disguised as other threads like old times I was hoping this was one of those and was caught off guard and was upset so I lashed out 🤷‍♂️ 

[Ravens and Lamar do not reach contract agreement]

Wow, who cares this has nothing to do with Bills Football.....carry on folks nothing to see here...

[What Happened After Halftime of the Packers Game?]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Opened the season crushing the defending Super Bowl champs on the road despite four turnovers.  Crushed last year's AFC #! seed at home.  Lost a freakish heartbreaker at Miami despite a rash of injuries and hellish and unfair conditions on the field.  Came back with a gutsy comeback win on the road at Baltimore.  Destroyed Pittsburgh at home.  Great game on the road for a well-deserved win against arch nemesis KC.  5-1 going into the bye.  

 

I hadn't felt as confident of a win going into a game as I did Green Bay.  Rested, getting some players back going against team at the bottom of the league stopping the run.  Good game to get our run game healthy. Up 24 - 7 at the half.  Offense looked fine.  Defense looked soft against the run, which was a surprise given how sturdy we had been against the run the first six games.  At that point, Josh Allen had 19 TD passes against 4 interceptions and was favorite to win MVP.  He took a couple of big hits early in the second half and hasn't looked the same since.  Since halftime of the Packer game Allen has 4 TD passes against 7 interceptions (including 3 red zone INT's) and a fumble on a QB sneak that cost the Viking game.  He looked bad against the Jets well before the elbow injury.  I'm convinced Allen suffered some sort of injury early in the second half of the Packer game.  It just seems statistically impossible to play 6 1/2 games so well and the next 4 1/2 either mediocre or flat out bad.  Granted, the lousy offensive line play hasn't helped.  Brown has been a big disappointment.  

 

Our defense after getting gouged by Green Bay and the Jets on the ground has rebounded nicely in stopping the run (other than the 80 yard Cook run).  Pass defense has been bad but hopefully that will be cured by getting some of our guys back. 

 

The one thing this team needs is one big game from Allen showing that he is back.  That, and staying relatively healthy and we will be fine.

talked to death here....I agree he was concussed

 

 

[JA: Yips, new OC, or poor OL?]

12 minutes ago, Professor Worthington said:

Good answer.  I just can’t wrap my head around the elbow being the thing.  How do you throw a 70 yd pass at end of Jets game and the pass to Diggs today and say “it’s the elbow.”  Any orthopedic surgeons or sports medicine specialists, please weigh in!

Because he's still physically able to make those things happen but st the cost of major pain in the moment and the risk of ruining his throwing arm, as terrible as it is to say out loud, Josh shouldn't be playing he should have sat for 2 weeks to rest his arm,  but doing that kills our season.....if we hadn't had so many injuries maybe we could have afforded him to sit a couple games but not with the shell of a team we have out there rn

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

On 11/13/2022 at 6:48 PM, FireChans said:

Dorsey has been absolutely HORRIBLE in the redzone.  19th in the NFL

I agree the play calls and designs are crap

On 11/14/2022 at 8:25 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

It's a combination of both. Also Josh is definitely pressing. The whole world has already anointed the Bills SB winners. Now with injuries and mistakes we're coming back to earth.

Injuries have played a huge role especially not having tre,po and Hyde in the backfield that's 3 all pros, teams would be screwed if they were all playing....maybe Josh is cracking under the pressure of being called the nfls best qb etc 

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

Its so crazy. We can move at will and then there's nothing we can do inside the 10.

I think it's play calling, whenever we hit the red zone dorsey just has Allen start throwing it to the ez over and over 

[If the Bills lose to the Browns ?]

3 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

+1 for me as well.  I'm not blowing another afternoon (this Sunday at least) on watching this bumbling team in action.  I have to fix my dryer.  I'll listen to the game on Sirius though.

Best comment in 2022 imo no sar/ I needed a good belly laugh before work and this did the trick 😄 I do t want to watch the next game either smh

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

8 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

Championship winning QBs usually have to be game managers much more than great play creators.  With Allen, he is our biggest great play creator.  Even today, on 3rd & 11 he runs. & drags 3 defenders for the first down. He evaded a least 2 probable sacks (for most QBs) & turned them into 20+ yard runs. He evaded the rush & completed 2 big passes on 3rd & 15 in the 4th quarter.
 

But, on that last drive I thought he was trying too hard to carry the team across the finish line by himself.  He ran the ball halfway down the field and took good hits on both carries.  He actually did hit Knox in the hands with a pass to the end zone.  However, his poor game management decision led to the game ending int.   
 

I hope coaches focus Josh on game management this week. The (mostly self-imposed) pressure to be the game winning play creator is adversely affecting his performance, in my opinion. 
 

 

^^^^^^^this at the very least

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

your hypothesis?  This has been discussed a few times

I'm a busy dad of 4 boys I get little time to read the boards and post etc I hadn't realized there was another post similar to this from last week....

2 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

At the beginning of the season, the passing game went low to high and had a bunch of success.  When they went deep, it was set up by the previous play calls.

 

During the Pittsburgh and KC game, Allen had success forcing the ball deep, but it planted the seeds of some bad habits.  

 

Against the Packers, Jets, and Vikings, there was a shift where Allen's locking onto the deeper throws, abandoning the shorter ones.

 

This is easily fixable with film study and game planning.  Just revisit what worked the first few games.  It's mind boggling that the coaching staff hasn't addressed this by now. 

 

But it's also mind boggling how a defense that plays nickle the entire game can't figure out how to double-team a receiver.

Good take 👏 

[I'm done.]

YOU'RE A LIAR!!!

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

2 minutes ago, FieldGeneral said:

Josh doesn't look to his sides unless he's scrambling that direction and has to unload it. In each loss, we had 4-5 easy yards that he's refused to use. Do not understand why he's so in love with making a throw that doesn't need to be made. 

On the interceptions no one's even close to open typically, not even close, his Interceptions in the last 2 seasons were typically receivers fault ie bounced off the receivers hands and were tip drill ints, not these ones they're legit passes to the wrong team this isn't ja17 this is mark Sanchez decision making  that's why I think somethings wrong with his noodle

[I'm done.]

1 hour ago, letsgoteam said:

Make fun of me, say I'm a liar, say whatever you want.

I'm done.

 

I'm 34 years old, married with a 1 month old. I live out of state. 

I have been a Bills fan all of my life, I'm not going to stop being a fan, I can't. I've been cursed. For many years, I dreamed when I finally had a kid that as they grew up, I would have someone who would love the Bills as much as I do, something we could share. My wife doesn't care about sports (it sucks). That dream is over, I'm not cursing my daughter to a lifetime of misery. 

 

Of course, I will keep up with the Bills, but I've got to change the way they have an impact in my life. Beyond my family and job, the Bills have come next. Watching every game, having whatever app needed to watch them out of state, clothing, $, etc. 

 

I'm done. I cant keep doing this. The way I feel after a loss has to stop (especially the epic meltdown losses we are all to familiar with); I'm miserable, I'm mad, I'm angry, it consumes me. I'm to emotionally invested. Beyond my job and family, the Bills have been everything and anyone who knows me knows its my identity. 

 

Something has to give. 

 

So, I thought about it after the KC game last season. Now after this, its time. I'm no longer watching the Bills live. 4 hours every "Sunday" for 17 weeks and whatever playoffs and preseason stuff. That's over 70+ hours each season. That's roughly 3 days of my life each year devoted to the Bills.

 

What has it given back to me, how am I a better person for doing this. What good, what accomplishments, what have I earned from this. 

NOTHING

All I do is become a emotional wreck and a miserable, grumpy jerk when they lose. (I can remember crying as a little kid, like 6/7 years old). The crying as a little kid, now is mostly just meant with anger. Any of my friends and family know. To the point of, my best friends wife, texted my wife and wanted to see how angry I was after the KC loss. It's embarrassing. I have become a side show spectacle, to point where people are curious how "epic" my meltdown was. (I would like to say, I actually took it like a champ, and kept it all in eternally and showed nothing emotionally). No anger, just disappointment in myself and the Bills. 

 

From here on, perhaps I go back to it at some point. I dont know. I'm just done. I am disappointed in myself more for caring so much for 30 years. 

 

From this point on, I'm not watching another Bills game live. I need to do better in my life, maybe this is a small step in the right direction. I know I will watch replays if they win (just like I might watch Netflix or Disney +), but I'm gaining my life back. I'm done.

 

 

This made me pretty uncomfortable 😕 😐 

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

It is weird. Singletary wasn't able to get anything going in the 2nd half so I guess we just abandoned the run altogether. But then why are Cook and Hines on the team? Every time Cook has touched the ball the past two weeks good things have happened and we just refuse to stick with him. Hines was used exclusively as a decoy today, we didn't design any real plays to take advantage of his speed. Singletary is a decent enough RB but he is NOT a playmaker. This offense needs more playmakers. Cook and Hines give us some juice and I think they both give us excellent potential in the red zone.

It's like they start out great running the ball and then get stuffed 1 or 2 times (even when we have a lead mind you a healthy one even) and just throw the ball every down non stop smh I think the play calling is maybe idiotic and thats a big part of the problem if not Josh has gotten concussion and isn't all there 

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

16 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Because we can't score TDs from inside the 20. We get all the way down there making it look easy, and then get stymied where it counts. When Knox dropped that pass I got the feeling that this game was either going to end in a tie or a loss. I had no hope for us scheming up a TD. I'm guessing Allen felt like had to win it all right there. It was not a good decision but I get where his head was at.

Play calling has been odd, we abandon the run when it was great early in the game and produced 2 tds and could've used it in the second half too and in ot

3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Mental pressure. Did you even read the post I was quoting before giving it a negative reaction ?

I did but I disagree Josh was playing like the best qb in the league till the second half gb game imo 🤷 

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

18 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Another of you nonsensical, thoughtless,  useless,  ridiculous posts.  Keep ‘em coming

Jeez man, you getting treated ok at home?? Getting enough to eat?? Sleeping on the couch or something bud?? I'm worried about you because that's just a grouchy way to behave being that we've never even met....I'm sorry I hit a nerve partner

7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Definitely not a good thing when you’re quarterback is bad under pressure. I mean this is the worst trait any athlete in any sport can have. 

He was always historically great against the blitz the last couple years 

22 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Talked about last week. This thread may interest you:

 

 

Thanks for the heads up great read and I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who noticed it makes me feel normal lol, hopefully he's going to be OK and gets back to being  his ja17 self

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

Just now, Livinginthepast said:

I literally thought the exact same thing and so have others on here. Josh hasnt seemed right since that GB 2nd half. Not a full concussion but a mild one is what I suspected. His decision making since as been hit and miss. But If this is true, the coaches have to simplify things for him. Why hasnt this happened? Today instead of throwing the ball for the OT INT he should have had 2 options if the play wasnt there 1. throw it away or 2. run it only if the play is there. What is scary is maybe he isnt judging when the play isnt there properly!

Exactly it's like his thought process is flawed now when he really really understood situational football and winning football before the second half of the gb game, that big helmet to helmet hit he welcomed and then the one in nj is where I saw a marked difference in his thought process/ability to read defenses....orrrrrrr dorseys play calling has been predictable and terrible....or both 

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

My wife is 100% sure it has something to do with his girlfriend.     She did some investigating and told me Britt hasnt posted anything on instagram since the Halloween party, despite being in her words "very active on social media."

 

Maybe its just a coincidence but Josh hasnt played well since that bye week party.    Otherwise I have no clue why he suddenly looks like a different player. 

This is an interesting take, he does seem distracted maybe I guess, woman can do crazy things to a man's mind lol

[Mahomes went through a slump last year too]

Just now, Einstein said:

Before becoming Mahomes again and leading his team to the AFC Championship game.

 

Mahomes had a 5 game stretch in the middle of the season where these were his performances:

0 TD, 1 INT, 1 Fumble
0 TD, 1 INT, 1 Fumble
1 TD, 1 INT
1 TD, 0 INT
0 TD, 1 INT, 1 Fumble

 

The point? Even the great ones can slump. Play poorly. Lose their mojo. Forget how to read the field.

 

I am far more concerned about the coaching, as some of these coaching mistakes have been happening since day 1 of McDermott’s tenure.

 

But Josh will get better. He will overcome. He will become great again. Mahomes slumped and he came back. So will Allen.

 

Go Bills.

I hope it's that simple I really do

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

32 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Concussion leaves you cloudy and indecisive, slow to react.... at a position that makes more on the fly decisions than any other position/sport.

 

Hes actually too good for these picks, or a mental lapse on a snap in his own EZ. 

 

All the symptoms are there. Embarassing as a fan base to hear how quick ppl are turning on a dude thats given us everything. Putting his brain on the line for us with a concussion he has to keep hush about, and ppl are saying "season is over" blah blah blah. 

 

Dont care if i get 100 downvotes. Be better. TWO GAMES ITS BEEN. TWO. Relax, everything will be fine. We found a nice rhythm till the 4th. Well take what we can from it, grow, and move on. Shame on some of you

It's what I see as well bro somethings grossly wrong hopefully he heals up and gets back on track

1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Lol people grasping at straws

Your mom's grasping at straws

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

The last pick his forced something that wasn't there trying to make a big play. It was 2nd down, just get 6-7 yards. Why try and throw it 25 yards into the end zone? Take what the defense gives you 

My feelings exactly, it's like his train of thought isn't right the last 2 games, he's not stupid somethings not adding up, maybe the play calls are trash ??

30 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

it's exactly how he played his first two years in the league. 

True but not the last 2

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

33 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What are you talking about? This is how Josh has always played. The difference is that in the past his "should be" INTs turn into Jaw dropping TDs. He's been a gun slinger his whole life and he's going through a stint where it isn't working our for him and you're asking him to be Chad Pennington.

The reason that he's throwing more INTs because we're throwing the entire outcome of the game on his shoulders every single week. You can't do that. Our defense makes a stop on 4th and 18 and that pick doesn't exist and we're talking about how JA is the best player in the NFL again.

I don't want Chad noodle armed Pennington for Christ's sake lol 😆  just taling the easy stuff when it benefits the team getting a win and keeping possession of the ball late in the game etc. You know situational football per se

43 minutes ago, Mango said:

I think he’s played dominant and we’ve been dominant, so he just grips too tight to “be dominant”. Then when that doesn’t go well, he presses harder to get that game, drive, play, etc. back. We’re just in a vicious circle we have to get out of.

 

Glad this is happening now rather than December or January. 

He kind of has been up and down a little bit for stretches here and there he just seems to be in an uglier rut than we've seen since year 2 imo and yeah hopefully they can get him back to basics and get him to play winning  ball rather than look at me ball

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

I’ve drank a bottle of whiskey and im upset 😭 

Eat some food and drink some water bro and take a deep breath...Josh will figure it out somethings just not right 

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

Just now, Brandon said:

There's nothing wrong with him except that he's pressing because the team expects him to be the answer to everything on offense.  He's putting too much pressure on himself and forcing throws.

I dunno he just seems like a different player the last couple games, it's just been dramatic

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

I hadn’t gotten the all 22 this year until this week. The Bills were rolling and I just wanted to enjoy the season. But I re-upped this week. 
 

Saying we’re missing Beasley operates under the assumption that nobody is running crossers, slants, or anything quick/shallow. And that’s just not the case. There are guys he’s around and open and he isn’t even looking. Or he looks and throws over their head to the tough throw behind him for 20 rather pick up 6 and play the sticks. 

Maybe 13 seconds put too much of a chip on his shoulder and made him greedy??

[My hypothesis for 17's Int woes]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

To compare josh to Trent is ******* ludicrous 

 

and I’ve been drinking to cope so ima sorry If i tagged somebody wrong

 

go bills

Take a sip for me but really what I'm comparing is the level of immediate regression