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Just now, Warcodered said:
I've looked at the Broncos schedule they've got the Chargers twice and the Lions.
Oh, I seriously doubt it happens, especially after they lost to the Texans today.
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6 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Imagine if green bay wins tonight and the bills win next week, kc would be ONE game ahead of the bills 😬
If that happens you almost have to hope Denver somehow wins the division so we have a head to head tiebreaker.
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2 hours ago, Chaos said:
Another theory is that the is more on Beane than McDermott.
For example Torrence has 5 penalties this season. Spencer Brown has 18 penalties. Same coach, different players. Maybe this is something to consider when building the roster. Maybe the penalty prone can't have it coached out of you.
However 12 men on the field causing a defeat on the last play of the game is 100% a head coaching failure.
Tackles usually get penalized more often than interior players. They’re more visible and DEs are generally the most physically gifted D linemen.
Agree with the 12 men statement, and that likely came into play when McD decided to ice the kicker in Philly.
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4 hours ago, DC Grid said:
Important to remember that back in 2008 offensive averages weren’t nearly the same as they are today….largely due to the way the NFL has shaped the game through how they call things. In 2008, 4,000 passing yards made you a top 5 QB yardage wise. In 2022 you had to have 4,500 plus. In 2008, 10 QBs finished with a rating above 90, vs 18 last year. So if you’re doing the same as a guy 15 years ago, you’re actually doing a decent bit worse.
True, but it doesn’t account for the Packers also fleecing the Jets for an aging QB that would ultimately get injured. 😆
Seriously though. It’s impressive how that team has managed to reload and rebuild their rosters around the timelines of young QBs three times in a row. When Favre came in they got him a starting center, then drafted Robert Brooks and Chmura among others. Rodgers got Jordy Nelson, Finley, and Sitton.
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2 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:
I hear you. But that’s just in possible, right?!
There’s a web connecting McD, Beane & Pegulas. Pegula has a longer leash on those two because McBeane drafted Allen. But this thing has unfortunately played out. I’m sure Pegula won’t base his decision solely on McDermott’s press conference, but even after a 24 hour cooling done period, his line of thinking in that game is the reason he should complete the firing.
Pegula’s next decision is whether or not to keep Beane. I hope Beane, who’s drafted for McDermott’s defense, shows enough to Pegula that he can now draft offense, for a new offensive coach. I’d give Beane more time to evolve here. But McDermott has to go. He’s lucky he’s still employed. But like Napoleon Bonaparte said, Luck is genius. McDermott has scapegoated so many coaches, players and situations, he’s difficult to fire mid season.
This ^^^. Only way I see McD fired is if Allen and/ a groups of players approaches him and says he’s lost the faith of the team.
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6 hours ago, theRalph said:
Bills hire Bill Belichick as next head coach. Joe Brady remains OC. Beane picks the talent. This will draw ridicule.
But it's obvious Belichick needs a championship QB to win and Josh Allen needs a championship coach to win. Both are lost without the other.
Irony is so underrated.
It’s slutty and dirty feeling, but honestly…. This current offense stems from the patriots offense. It could actually work with the condition that Beane retains GM roll, and Brady maintains offensive autonomy, and takes over after Belichick beats Shula’s win total.
It’d feel weird AF to if they won a Super Bowl with that setup too…. Like giving in to the dark side or trading everything at the crossroads. 😂
6 hours ago, theRalph said:Bills hire Bill Belichick as next head coach. Joe Brady remains OC. Beane picks the talent. This will draw ridicule.
But it's obvious Belichick needs a championship QB to win and Josh Allen needs a championship coach to win. Both are lost without the other.
Irony is so underrated.
It’s slutty and dirty feeling, but honestly…. This current offense stems from the patriots offense. It could actually work with the condition that Beane retains GM roll, and Brady maintains offensive autonomy, and takes over after Belichick beats Shula’s win total.
It’d feel weird AF to if they won a Super Bowl with that setup too…. Like giving in to the dark side or trading everything at the crossroads. 😂
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20 minutes ago, zow2 said:
That “refuse to lose” mentality that some teams have….well it ain’t with the Buffalo Bills i can tell you that. It’s a darn shame.
The problem is we only have one of those guys with the physical/technical talent active on defense right now (Douglass), and McD’s end of game schemes take him out of the play. No pre ACL all-pro Tre making a timely 4th quarter pick, no Milano to force a turnover or make a TFL, no DQ to collapse a double team for interior pressure, and Poyer, Hyde, and Von ain’t what they used to be physically. This team really doesn’t have enough defensive closers to ice a 2 minute drive, especially when McD wants to go prevent or cover 0.
….. then there’s the unreliable special teams with inconsistent coverage and missed kicks….. part of that likely stems from the injuries and guys getting called up into duty, but that’s no excuse for Bass, Martin, etc. Things like the 12 men issues are a coaching problem, and it’s on McD to fix that. IMO his focus on the duel HC/DC roll has significantly influence the precision and execution of both the offense and particularly special teams.
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3 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:
IMO McDermott is more like Marvin Lewis and Marty Schottenheimer. Good coaches that can only take their teams so far. He’s done a great job turning the franchise around but does anyone have any confidence in him to make the right decisions in a close game against a quality opponent?
His list of ways to give away games compared to quality wins isn’t even close. The Baltimore playoff game is probably his best big game win and that was with a hurt Lamar during half the game.
Does anyone see this team going 5-0 or 4-1 the rest of the season? They haven’t won more than two games in a row all season. They are just as likely to finish 8-9 as they are 10-7.
Nice guy but his time has run its course.
If they miss the playoffs I’d rather them get a better draft pick and make a HC change. This team needs a playmaker and an injection of optimism. I’d imagine all the top coaching prospects would love to luck into a job with Allen at QB.
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1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said:
Dirty pieces of ***** just like their fans.
That’s why it should be legal to nudge Philly fans into traffic. 😜
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19 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Did he also recover a fumble have some pass break ups or have as many tackles?
4 tackles, 3 PD, 2 INTs, 1 FR.
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7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
As was stated above by some...nicknames have to happen organically. Dalton Kincaid has earned his nickname.
Congratulations Dalton "Doot" Kincaid.
Dalton Doot has a ring to it.
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2 hours ago, Mango said:
For whatever reason people have started to use WR3 as the starter in the slot and the backup outside interchangeably.
But like I said above, if believe that if we use our slot guys (Kincaid, Shakir, Cook) effectively Gabe Davis is an OK guy on the outside to stretch the field and run a lot of deep routes. I think there is talent in the group. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t try to upgrade him. I would. I’d most definitely take somebody high in the draft.
It’ll be an interesting wrinkle moving forward if Brady sticks Shakir in the slot and Kincaid outside in 12 personnel once Knox is back. Certainly some cool possibilities with matchups and motion with that type of setup.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
Easy. Make Kingcaid the first read on every pass play. Followed by Diggs, Cook then Shakir. We’d win the Super Bowl as long as 17 stays healthy.
IDK if Kincaid as first read is best, but I’d lobby for scheming Diggs some 1v1’s and motion while giving Kincaid the Beasley option routes. Then when giving Diggs the option routes sending Kincaid down the seam to stress safeties and LBers.
Anything has to be better than running two separate concepts on each side of the field that rely on Allen and 1-2 pass catchers to read the defense at the same time. I’ll give Dorsey credit for the fact that when it’s clicking it’s unstoppable…. But that “when it’s clicking” aspect is like Sex Panther; 60% of the time, it works every time. The hot read being an option route on the backside isn’t always reliable with a rookie. DK is coming into form, but he’s not at an elite level of processing quite yet.
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3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I think his seat is hot in GB.
It really isn’t. The whole receiving corps and the TEs are all first and second year players, Love is in his first year starting, and the Oline has dealt with injuries. He’s proven that with a top QB he can win 13 games a year. LaFleur is safe for another year. Joe Barry though is probably toast. That defense has massively underperformed for the talent level. Only way LaFleur gets the axe is if he won’t get rid of Barry. They’ll likely make some changes to assistant coaches, but not to HC unless there’s a huge division in the locker room.
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2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
I don’t have the stats but this is something that’s always bothered me under Dorsey and Daboll….
Do we ever hand it off to a running back on 3rd and say 5-7 yards?
Completely anecdotal I don’t have evidence but I’m betting I can count on one hand how many times we’ve done that under Dorsey.
Feels like we run it plenty on 2nd and 5-7 yards.
You want to keep that deep cover 2 honest be able to run it on 3rd and medium - especially around their 45 yard line - where we should be going for it on 4th down routinely the rest of the way.
I think it’s also got to be philosophical. How much pass pro we work on v the run game.
How else do we explain Zach Moss??Good point. I’d also say this is where 12 personnel and tempo can be beneficial, particularly with Kincaid’s ability to flex out wide. That 3rd down run could be under center with both TEs inline, and then no huddle a shotgun spread formation after the play without a substitution. The reverse would hold as well.
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2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:
Officially our #2 target or should continue to be. Dude is elite and a matchup nightmare
Maybe the Knox injury was a blessing in disguise and when he's back we're more explosive in 2 TE
I’d like to see Dorsey incorporate those spread formations and RPOs with 12 personnel once Knox gets back. The threat of a TE and Diggs stacked for a screen or 2 TEs on one side blocking downfield for a swing pass to a RB could be a nice wrinkle that causes some hesitation and leads to a big gain.
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11 minutes ago, Since1981 said:
It's why I would love a Reich/Fitz former QB. They had to make up for their lack of physical with mental. So much more proven than Dorksey ever has been (fired from Panthers)
Dorsey made it for 6-7 years as a player as well…. Reich is a proven coach, but Fitz definitely hasn’t shown any interest there.
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Probably pork belly burnt ends
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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Douglas definitely was awful with Philly........but then he did suddenly improve.........when he went to GB.
Like De'Vondre Campbell did too. Both were utter trash until they went to GB and then they got very good overnight. If the Bills had gotten Campbell too it would have gotten the same kind of initial responses but he has been like an 80 PFF grade LB overall since he joined GB.
McBeane need to be able to find these kind of guys who just needed a change of scenery and some seasoning. Poyer was the last one of those they found and that was technically one of Whaley's(along with Lorax, Tyrod, Zach Brown etc.. that was sorta' Doug's thing).
Maybe Elam is that guy for them and just needs some time and guidance like Rasul did. And maybe that's part of the reason they wanted a guy like Rasul Douglas.........to put a guy on the team that has been thru what Elam is going thru now and got to the other side and became a very good.
Another aspect is that RD played under Holcomb in Carolina, so he likely knows that scheme and terminology already since the DC job went from McD to Eric Washington to Holcomb. The guy is familiar with everything and should get up to speed quickly having previous experience with this defense.
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12 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:
The psychology of NFL owners/GMs is so strange. The Titans were planning a firesale, but then they got a good game from a rookie QB and now they are all-in on competing this year. The Falcons are adding players to a team with no QB. It's pressure from fans to compete every year. NFL fans won't except rebuilding like other sports fans. Maybe it's better that way.
I don’t think they’re all in on winning. They’re more likely thinking it’s a good idea to keep weapons around Levis to get an honest assessment of his play instead of ruining his confidence after a fire sale.
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I just hope it’s a draining, physical game that goes into overtime. If I had my druthers they’d both beat each other up and wind up with a tie.
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12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I know this thread is dedicated to the MVP race, but the reality of the situation is Josh Allen isn't really in it right now. Technically he is, but not really. With embarrassing losses to both Zack Wilson and Mac Jones, and a near loss where we only scored 14 points against a 1 win Giants team starting a QB who hasn't played meaningful football in years is going to leave a long bad taste in the mouths of the voters. Add in now the narrative even after this win is that we only won because Godwin didn't see the hail mary (and there is some truth to that) and you have got a team that is 2-2 in the last 4 during the easiest part of its schedule, and both wins a case can be made more that the other team lost it more than we won it and we got lucky. Whether or not that is true or fair doesn't matter, that is the narrative.
So right now, Allen and the Bills are probably going to have to win out or lose no more than 1 more game and definitely at least win the division for Allen to have any real consideration. He will have to do a lot more than Mahomes to overcome him, who is the definitive leader for MVP right now.
And that is the issue with Allen...while everyone always is willing to acknowledge him as a major MVP candidate, he also is someone the media and everyone seem to hold to a higher standard of near perfection or they tear him down. He is grossly outplaying Burrow right now and yet Burrow doesn't get nearly the same criticism to the level Allen does for example.
It will be tough for Allen to win an MVP unless he really definitively beats everyone else out because he is not going to get the votes in a close race. And the thing working in Josh's favor to help him do that is also working against him and this team...and that is the toughness of our remaining schedule which is rough and the defensive injuries. Given the difficulty of the remaining games and the added difficulty with our defensive injuries, if Allen and Bills run the table or lose maybe just 1 close game and still win the division, then that could help propel Josh back into legit consideration. But that won't be easy as we have seen against lesser competition already.
He’s probably going to have to win a Super Bowl before he wins an MVP…. Pre-draft narrative, Buffalo narrative, inconsistency narrative, etc. It’s a fair amount to overcome. They’ve painted him down, and unfortunately for his MVP chances a bunch of those “journalists” clinging on to those aforementioned narratives have votes.
SNF Chiefs at Packers Game Thread
in The Stadium Wall
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It’s a prime time game in GB. Chiefs ain’t gonna get the benefit of the doubt considering the Packers have a massive fan base. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the calls shift in the second half though.
Gary is a wrecking ball. When he’s on he frees up the rest of the front seven.