Ethan in Cleveland

There is no doubt Murphy is terrible. I will take youth and upside over him every day. These reps will be important in 2021. Me too. Would be nice to just blow this team out. Score 5 tds on 7 drives

The question should be why Gilliam over Kroft? Gilliam has done nothing all year. Happy Murphy's time in Buffalo is coming to an end

I hope they do. That plays to our strength

I've got an ill feeling about this game. Bills can't stop the run and I'm afraid McD and Frazier won't commit 8 or 9 guys to stop the run. Bills should play their corners on an island and commit in the early down to stopping the run. Edmunds has to have a good game. The middle of their olin is weak. Oliver needs to step up. I worry about the Bills being pushed around. Best chance for a win is an early turnover and get up by a couple of scores. Force Shanahan to throw more than he wants. If Bills man up I agree with others, they can force some turnovers and maybe that elusive defensive score.

Yeah but he makes up for it with good situational analysis and he talks about line play more than most.

Don't care for Al that much anymore so that doesn't bother me. But Tirico is terrible. Unlike many on this board, I like Collinsworth.

Giants have been playing decent football for 7 or 8 games now. Imagine if they had Barkley. Their defense is good. Jones is an almost capable QB that is getting better.

Ugh, Seattle just blew 5 points. The ball wasn't even rolling out of bounds and three guys blew it.

What difference does it make? They are going to fire the entire staff and they have to pay him anyways. If they elevate a coordinator to HC they will have to pay him more for a few games. Tank and save some money.

That makes sense but it only takes one team with cash to overpay. There will still be plenty of teams with cap space. If I'm Milano I take a signing bonus anywhere I can.

Why would Milano do that?

I doubt because he is going to have to do it in 4 games. He will need a multisack game this week or against Denver. Bills will be resting their starters in week 17

Makes you wonder doesn't it? Made same mistake with playing Murphy over Lawson.

Nope. #1 priority is to pay Williams to stay at RT. They have two young RBs on the cheap now. Keep it that way.

I think that is an indictment of Barkley not Wentz He played well without Brown but the numbers are lower without him. My only point is that Wentz's production needs to be taken into context of the players around him That said, truly great QBs like Wilson, Brady, Rodgers elevate the guys around them. I think Allen does to some degree as well and he may even be on the same level as those three now or very soon

Odd, when just John Brown is out and a linemen or two miss a game Allen's produciton drops. Do we blame Daboll or Allen for that? Philly is decimated with injuries and their WR group is bottom 10 in the league. Good TEs but still some injuries there too. Reich gets way to much credit on this board for being a player and has a long way to go to prove he is a successful HC.

Pittsburgh did not look like a 11-0 team. Still they would be favored over Buffalo. It would be so nice to just blitzkreig San Fran and rest the starters in the fourth quarter.

For me it is a division win and a playoff win. Anything less is a Failure major disappointment. Of course a playoff loss to a superior team would be easier to take than another choke job like Houston last year. Anything more is a welcome surprise would not be shocking and again if not a Super Bowl win would depend on how the loss occurred. A shootout loss to KC I coudl live with. A 3 turnover game by Allen or a mind numbing mistake by McD would be hard to stomach.

I appreciate the OP question. I don't think the goal should be a playoff win. As many have said there are only 2-3 true SuperBowl favorites but many other teams in the hunt. I also beleive they should be in a win now mode. Do I think they have a realistic shot at winning SuperBowls? No. But a first round playoff loss would be a great disappointment similar to losing to Cleveland in the first round of the playoffs in 1989 or even to the Bengals the year before as both of those games the Bills were good enough to win.

49ers, Denver, Pats, lose to Pittsburgh and rest week 17 against Miami. Miami has at least two more losses before the would come to Buffalo. That said, one has to wonder if they would be better off needing to win against Miami so they stay hungry Hard to know the impact of playing a meaningless week 17 game before the playoffs the following week. I've always thought the rest was more important than any supposed "let down " from not playing the starters one week. Yup its random. Interceptions are far less random and a better metric to follow.

He also made some very good run blocks the last several weeks. He is the weakest link on the line. I would have no issue with Bates or Boetgetrer getting some snaps. Would be nice to get up several scores and start rotating some other guys up front.

Agreed. If you could choose, would much rather have wins over Pittsburgh and of course Miami. But beating a wounded 49ers should be easier than beating either Pittsburgh or Miami. My guess is Miami will lose to Chiefs, Pats, and Raiders down the stretch making the final game of the year meaningless. Bills will be 3rd or 4th division winner winning the AFC east by 2 games and the Bills will rest everyone in week 17. Thanks. Well that saves me a couple grand in tickets and travel costs

Any word on tickets? Will they allow fans?

You are exactly right. when Milano was healthy, Klein rarely saw the field. Now that he has played well and if they are facing a run heavy team, McD and Frazier may play some more base 4-3 defense. Even if they do, I can't imagine it would be more than 5-8 more plays a game in a 4-3. What we might see is Klein out there against more two TE sets, run down and distance situations, and Milano in on 3rd and long and four and five wide sets. Will be interesting to see. Then again if Milano really tore his pectoral muscle he won't be 100% until after the season.

It was a win with some good and some bad. It was a win against a flawed west coast team playing on the east coast. Bills D appeared to play better but Herbert also was off target early and often. Other than one 30 yard run, they seemed to defend the run well. D had some nice stops after the turnovers. People seem to think Edmunds played better. I didn't see it though. Very few impact plays. Missed knocking the ball down on the TD pass. I didn't see him make any big mistakes in the run game. The long run given up was Klein's hole and terrible run support by White. Bills rushed the passer reasonably well. They did not pass block well at all. It was hard to tell on TV but I suspect they were defending the deep ball and doubling Diggs. Allen and Daboll adjusted reasonably well. Sitting Murphy was a fine decision as Epenesa played ok and should benefit from the increased snaps. Sitting Kroft for Gilliam still made no sense. Not sure why Josh Norman didn't get more snaps. I like Levi but I would have guessed they would have rotated Norman in there for a few drives. Also unsure why he was not on the filed for the hail mary. Tauron Johnson looks like the smallest DB on the team and Norman is the tallest I think. They had both Klein and Edmuinds on th efield for the 4th and forever. Makes no sense.