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33 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:
Trey Adams is my “I can’t believe he didn’t get drafted and I’ll be pissed if/when he gets cut. This front office doesn’t know what they’re doing” guy this offseason. It was David Sills last year. Beane wouldn’t know talent if it slapped him right in the dick....
I must have missed David Sills appearance in the Pro Bowl. Just kiddin'. All I know about Adams was that he was a very highly regarded player and was then hit with injuries. When he is right, he can be a really talented player. Apparently, nobody wanted to risk a draft pick when the o-tackle draft was pretty deep. I'm anxious to see him in some live action. He could turn out to be a great value.
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I can't say that I'm sorry to see it go. It was a poorly conceived idea to address the horrendous missed call in the Saints/Rams playoff game. They could have fixed the problem by firing the two officials who were in position to get the call right and didn't. You only need to hang a couple on Main Street to inspire the rest to do great things in the future.
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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
This is why I'm glad I don't have daughters.
I've got a daughter and she would know if a round was chambered. In fact, I'm afraid that she would have shot old Earl in his low hanging fruit...if you get my drift.
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7 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:
I agree, there's no way they can reduce it more than 10%. The union would immediately get involved. The owners are just going to have to "wear it" for one year.
It will all depend on the language in the collective bargaining agreement, which I have not taken the time to read. I seriously doubt that the players and their individual contracts are totally insulated from a drop in revenue by the league. The cap is based on a percentage of the total league revenue. Not all owners have the financial ability to "wear" it for a year. I also doubt that owners would ever agree to a labor contract in which they assume all of the risk associated with changes in revenue. The players negotiated for a labor contract which would give them a percentage of the total revenue and probably never considered a scenario like this. If they had settled for a flat total dollar amount for the cap as proposed by the owners, they would be in a stronger position. Players and the league will sort it out because they will have no choice. What we as fans should be concerned about are the inevitable increase in ticket prices, parking, beer, etc..
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6 hours ago, clearwater cadet said:
Marcel
That might be true, if he had a team to actually show up for.....just sayin
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16 hours ago, gjv001 said:
As ESPN kept reminding us during each Bills draft selection, Josh Allen was the third most pressured QB last season. That being said, I would think we still have something to plug on the Oline.
They should have also reminded everyone that Allen held the ball for an incredibly long time because no receiver could get open.
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12 hours ago, djp14150 said:
He wouldnt retire..it’s an NFL injury thus OSHA rules come to bear under workman’s compensation laws which is incorporated in the agreement.
that's why injured players getting released come with injury settlements.
i agree players who have clear documented injuries that are considered career ending such as his could be moved from the team to an NFLPA list which doesn’t count against the team. But in order to do this a team must have had insurance on the player.
Actually, OSHA has very little to do with this. Workers are covered by state worker's compensation laws. In his case he was clearly injured at work and would be entitled to receive a payment under the applicable provisions of the law. In this situation, the collective bargaining agreement provides financial protection which far exceeds the relatively meager compensation given to workers covered by those state laws. If the NFL management bargaining committee was semi- competent, they will have an offset provision whereby any workers compensation payment received by the player would be subtracted from any payments made by the team/league to the player. In addition to all of this, many players carry personal insurance to pay them in the event that they suffer career ending injuries and some players negotiate the payment of these premiums into their contracts so that they are paid by the team. You are exactly correct about the injury settlements. They are covered by the collective bargaining agreement. The bottom line here is that there are multiple avenues for players to follow to protect their financial future. Alex Smith is a smart guy and I bet he has his bases covered. The cap hit is the team's problem.
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I believe that McD has a really good handle on who he wants to keep before the preseason even happens. He has seen the best and the worst of most of the players and extensive video on the rookies. When I think about the positions that are really up for grabs, we're talking mainly about depth or rotational players. For the people who really do their research before they sign or draft a player, they probably have a fairly high confidence level about each players assessment. The teams that do a pathetic job of player evaluation will be the ones that do all the whining if the preseason is cut short.
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11 hours ago, SoTier said:
Name a QB in the last twenty years who has been a mediocre starter for three seasons and then morphed into a franchise QB. There isn't anybody.
A team doesn't pay $18-20 million a year for a QB who's merely competent. Moreover, if a team has built a good team, they aren't going to waste it by hoping that some QB "falls to them". They go out and try to secure one. As the Eagles did when they traded up to get Wentz. As the Vikings did when they signed Kirk Cousins. As the Chiefs did when they traded up to get Mahomes even though they had a good QB worth $18-20 million already on the roster.
If that's entirely true, what's the story of Warren Moon and Kurt Warner. They were less than mediocre, didn't get drafted, had to play in the CFL and the arena league respectively. The facts are that they did develop and became franchise QB's. Those are just two obvious guys that came to mind. I'm not sure what is significant about the last twenty years but here are a couple examples.
As far as merely competent QB's go, the 49er's just paid big bucks for Jimmy G. and I consider him to be barely competent. Tannehill and Bridgewater also fall into that description IMHO.
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2 hours ago, Doc said:
I think teams have finally realized that if you haven't justified your 1st round status by the end of year 3, it's not likely going to happen. And if you do somehow manage to put it all together in year 4, they can always franchise you.
Sometimes it's just bad coaching, bad scheme fit, or just a bad team. There are some that don't fit the generalization. I think about Jerry Hughes as an example.
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2 hours ago, SoTier said:
Actually, I think it says a lot more about changes taking place in the NFL than specifically those four teams since there were numerous other teams that also didn't extend their 2017 first rounders. Teams want to see their first rounders get up to speed quickly even if they're supposed to be "projects". If they can't produce as well as their teams think they should in their first three seasons, they aren't getting a big fifth year pay day.
I think the Bears not extending Trubisky not only underscores how skeptical the team is of his ability to be a good NFL QB but is likely based on the recent past experience: young QBs who haven't shown themselves to be top QBs after three years of starting aren't likely to have an epiphany and become good/great QBs in their fourth or fifth years. It just doesn't happen. I can't think of a single mediocre three year starter who suddenly "saw the light" and became a top QB in his fourth or fifth season as a starter. In recent years, teams that extended fifth year options to mediocre first round QB wasted both time and money: Jax with Bortles (2014), TB with Winston (2015), and Tennessee with Mariota (2015).
A decade ago it was common for teams to not only pick up fifth year options on first round QBs but also to extend them even if their performance wasn't all that good. Both Mark Sanchez and Ryan Tannehill benefited from that policy. I'm sure there were others. That's now morphed into only the outstanding young QBs getting paid big bucks early (Goff, Wentz, likely Mahomes and Watson soon) and the lesser one getting kicked to the curb. Teams have also become quicker to cut their losses with first round QBs who are easily identifiable busts and move on. Paxton Lynch and Josh Rosen are the quintessential examples of this.
I think this trend narrows the window Josh Allen has to become a top NFL QB. Lots of Allen fans were willing to give Allen the full five years, but I don't think he gets that unless he absolutely improves this year so that he's among the top dozen or so QBs in the NFL.. Beane has taken away all of Allen's excuses by providing him with a good WR corps, decent protection, and now a pair of young RBs. Beane also drafted a potential replacement/bridge QB if Allen doesn't progress well enough and leaves after 2021.
I agree with most of what you are saying. But the facts remain that all four of the teams identified in the original post have struggled to win consistently and have had more than their share of problems with high round draft picks. Those two problems are directly related.
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This says a lot about the struggles of the four teams associated with these four players. They've all had issues with high draft choices in recent years and as we all know, that will set back a franchise for a couple of seasons.
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1 hour ago, Warcodered said:
Wonder if Dak will hold out.
Jerry may not care anymore or at least that is the bargaining position that he is establishing. At a minimum, he is protecting the team in the event of a holdout. I would sure like to hear the conversations that Dak will certainly be having with his agent. The stakes just got raised and it is fun to watch.
1 hour ago, Warcodered said:So Dalton is out of the next apparent nightmare in NE contest who's the next candidate?
What are the Dolphins going to do with Rosen?
He's in the running to be the new beer vendor is section 104. Steven Ross just traded the old beer vendor to the Texans for a 2021 7th round draft pick.
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Another poor draft selection by the fins....there's been too much of missing on high picks for their team to be consistently competitive. Doesn't break my heart...lol.
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Billy Shaw......what he did to linebackers was almost cruel.
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3 hours ago, TroutDog said:
Good indication that the season will not move forward normally.
I’m suspect something like this wasn’t addressed in the new CBA but it’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out.
This is being done for the optics of it. This won't effect enough people for enough money to make much of a ripple on their balance sheet but it is good PR. When many people in your customer base are hurting, you don't want the fat cats in your company earning big bucks and not being effected also. Several large companies in the US have made similar moves. Nobody should be surprised by this and it probably has little connection to the real decisions to be made regarding the season.
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Does anyone seriously believe that there will be any meaningful discipline handed out? I don't. Once the draft was here and gone with no disciplinary action taken, the probability in my mind dropped significantly.
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3 hours ago, FireChans said:
Lol, this cap problem is a product of them winning a Super Bowl. And it’s not a real problem.
It is partially the product of overpaying guys that were on a SB winning team. Does anyone really believe that Alshon Jeffrey is worth a cap hit of $18M under any circumstance? The structure of the agreements for the players that will likely be released leaves a significant amount of dead money. Contracts structured like this doesn't point to a great deal of competence on the part of the GM. It isn't a problem at the moment but will be as they start releasing guys next year and can't sign enough good free agents to fill the holes.
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30 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
My Lord look at those dead cap numbers of the high priced guys if cut- the top 8 guys are more than 70 percent of the cap and they can not cut them to get major savings. Wow that is terrible cap management.
Exactly correct! This is why I gag when all the media types gush every time old Howie's name surfaces. He is not one of the top GM's in the league and this cap problem is just more evidence of that. Like every other GM, he has hit on some moves but when you look at the whole picture, he's nothing special. He got them to a SB win and should receive credit for that.
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I don't believe he is done but the career clock in GB has been started to run down. In some quarters, it is believed that he is a hard guy to get along with. If that is true, maybe the front office has decided that enough is enough. His contract makes a trade virtually impossible; so he is not going anywhere. Their plan appears to move the focus of the offense away from Rodgers. IMHO the unfettered, throw the ball all over the field days in GB are probably gone. I also think that the GB front office wasted a bunch of good years for both Rodgers and Favre by not putting great talent around them. For many years they refused to improve their roster with free agents. In spite of this, they had some great seasons but they missed out on quite a few others. Rodgers isn't done yet but it is not likely that we will get to see the "old" Rodgers that we enjoyed watching in the past.
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39 minutes ago, H2o said:
Definitely Belichick's ego. For God's sake he let the dog draft for him. The guy truly feels he can win with anyone.
The dog did okay for his first draft. He may have a future in a front office somewhere in the league.
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1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:
guess he's pretty bitter they didn't hand him over money not warranted by his production..
I agree with you. Shame on the Chargers for offering to pay him $10M a year. If he's mad at anyone, it should be his agent. He didn't dissuade him from refusing a good offer and losing more money through a hold out. Then subsequently he signed for $8M with Denver. Looks like a brilliant bargaining strategy to me.....lol. I don't disagree with players negotiating to maximize their earnings but I can't feel sorry for a guy that drives the car off a cliff when he had a decent option.
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4 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:
So who gets the credit/blame?Good question. Whaley was a dead man walking after the end of the season. The scouting/personnel department did provide all of the input but McD was the main decision maker based on the information that was made available to him. If you remember, the scouting/personnel department was basically cleaned out after the draft. To answer your question, the scouting/personnel department was blamed for the bad moves and most of them lost their jobs. McD was bullet proof being the new guy that just walked into the mess that was the Bills. A friend of mine works in the NFL and knew a lot about what was going on at that time. He also thought it was unusual to hire the head coach before getting a new GM. I guess some of this disorganization falls clearly on ownership. It's good that the Bills are past all of this and seem to be functioning very well.
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57 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said:
Peterman and Jones were Whaley picks. But so were Dawkins and Milano. He was let go right after the draft
Whaley wasn't even in charge of picking up the donuts for the draft war room. To give him any credit or blame for anything that happened in that draft is insanely wrong and misplaced.
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Brady and the Bucs get 5 Primetime games
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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You're exactly correct. Viewership and advertising dollars drive most of these decisions. If they turn out be be a bad team with loop-sided games, they'll be flexed off the national game slots.