Tsaikotic

well the Bills have McCargo back and only 1 4th round pick so I guess this thread is pointless now..lol

yea the article mentioned he had a bad disc in his back...did anyone on the Bills know this?

dont think it will happen: I have a feeling this was the Bills...I think they might have offered McCargo and a 3rd/4th

hmm..didnt seem to work much did it..lol

ouch!!....just read that on PFT.com....they mentioned how McCargo has to come back and play for a coach that just publicly outted him “It’s like we’ve said from Day One, you’ve got to really want to play,” Bill Kollar told the Buffalo News. “It’s real easy to go and talk about it. But what you have to do is work and get better on the practice field and take it into the game. “He’s got the ability. But deep inside yourself you’ve got to want to end up getting it done. You’ve got to end up doing it on the field.”

I didnt mean keep them because of the big salaries...I am who dosent give a crap about how much players make...I was refering to the fact that the Bills FO must see them as being here for a while, so hence the huge contracts..does this mean they wont dump them tomarrow..nope..but to me it shows it's a spot they must not be to worried about. ok maybe a bad choice of words, but have you seen him play somewhere to say hes not? dont own a xbox 360 sorry...but yes in a way...IMO, teams are more hesitant to sit a 40 million dollar player over a 1 million dollar player, unless that 1 million dollar player plays extremely well, then he becomes a 40 million dollar player.

ok I changed my sig a bit..not because I fallow the crowd, but because after thinking about it I could see the points...this one looks better I think.

I don't agree...we know what the team looks like right now and its not really hard to make guesses at what would make the team better right now...mix that with the fact that last draft we knew what would have been needed and what the Bills actually got and whats left now to get...the only thing that is different is we don't know what the Bills will pick up and lose during FA next offseason...so basically building a rough draft so to say of next years draft really isn't that hard right now. my sig is just that..a rough draft of what I would like to see next april...course it will change quite a few times as we find out how well Fine plays and how well the O-line works out for the remanding games...If Fine proves to be a good recieving TE I possably could take TE off my sig or move it down to the 4th/5th... I agree most those are needed..minus RB, OT and QB... but I think DT should be closer to 1st - 4th round..with McCargo gone and Stroud being older that is. not in any order - DE, C, OLB, DT, OG, SS, TE

and like someone already said..I think the lack of a real pass catching TE has hurt us also...with no respect shown to any of the Bills TE 's, teams can stack the box

I think the blocking can and will be better come mid season when the line finally gets back from that bullsh!t Peters put them thru...do I think we need upgrades?..yes at both C and RG...so I'm not saying the line is going to be dominant just better...heres the running so far this season.. and don't forget that Bills have 2 RB' not just Lynch..: week 1 - Bills vs. Seattle : Lynch 18/76(4.2), Jackson 10/31(3.1) > 28/107(3.8) week 2 - Bills vs Jax: Lynch 19/59(3.1), Jackson 6/17(2.8) > 25/76(3.04) week 3 - Bills vs Raiders: Lynch 23/83(3.6), Jackson 5/24(4.8) > 28/107(3.8) week 4 - Bills vs Rams: Lynch 19/57(3.0), Jackson 7/46(6.5) > 26/103(3.9) week 5 - Bills vs Cardinals: Lynch 13/55(4.2), Jackson 1/5(5.0) > 14/60(4.2) thats 3 games with over 100 yards rushing, 1 game against a good run stopping D for 76 yards and 1 game in which JP had to throw all day to catch up against Cardinals...would I like to see Lynch with 90+ yards and Jackson with 50+ every game..yea sure, but its not going to happen until we get a new C and maybe a new RG as well...but I think(hope) after the bye the yards go up with the O-Line have a little time to get back on track

I think Buffalo screwed themselves in this area tho..they extended both Schobel and Kelsay to huge contracts...if they grabbed a 1st or 2nd round DE now theyd have to pay him good cash and then what do you do?...you have to get rid of one the 4 DE you allready have on the team...Ellis is a good DE just sitting right now...Denney, not being the recent draft pick and not haveing a huge impact on Buffalos salary cap hit, would be the odd man out and hed be dumped..then what?...keep sitting Ellis because a new guy took over for Denney?...I think Buffalo's FO thinks its fine where they are at DE....if Bills didnt extend Schobel and Kelsay the way they did, they might be up to looking into a new DE.

why do you think that?....Buffalo would have to pick a DE in the first or its a waste...they already have a pass rushing DE sitting in street clothes every game because he dosent fit into the ST as well as C.Bryan...Buffalo needs a C, TE, and now DT before they can go DE imo...anyone know the depth at DE in 2009 draft class?...if theres only 1-3 DE worth a 1st, they might be gone before Buffalo picks in the 20's...my thought on this might change if Bills tank and we pick in the top 15.

yea, at first look I thought they drew #'s on the helmets with markers...man those helmets looked bad

my sig shows what I'd like

I hope they atleast asked for a 4th with a conditional 3rd if McCargo does good

its allready been said that the Bills recieved a 4th for McCargo..I would have liked to have seen a 3rd also, but I guess Buffalos lucky to have have gotten what they did for a guy that dosent even play

deadline is at 4pm est tuesday

in all seriousness...you might want to take a breath and step back for a moment and just forget about what happened...not everyone on this forum is trashing you and most are just haveing fun...youll find in due time a lot of ppl here are very sarcastic and its done in a fun way....otherwise you might make to many "enemies" and never be able to have a seriuose discussion on TBD...

lol..I dont think it takes much for ppl to make a drinking game...you try this for a drinking game...every time someone take a drink you all have to drink...

your just trying to push the envelope arent you... lol..

hey sven..WTF..cant you see theres a thread allready started for ALL TG trade talk..I mean WTF man... ok ..sorry had to jump on yea...everybodies jumping on a rookie for the same thing so I figured I jump on a vet.. ok everybody move on..nothing to see here...

I know you stated its just your opinion..but I wouldnt go that far...potential playoffs to definate playoffs Id go tho

lets say the Bills were to make the playoffs...whats the worst they would pick in the draft?..22 - 26 right?...KC is basically in the top 5 worst teams right..so there pick most likely would be pick 1 - 5...would it be worth it to give KC our 1st for TG and there 4th?..there 4th would be almost a 3rd really...this way we could this: 2009 draft: 1 - traded to KC for TG 2 - C - Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas. 6-4 314 3 - OLB - Clint Sintim, Virginia, 6-3 254 4 - OG - Andy Levitre, Oregon State, 6-3 317 4 - ???

Well lets look at the facts then: TG- if Bills get TG he'd be a starter from day 1.. hes already seasoned and knows whats hes doing and how the NFL works...Hes one of the best TE's in the game...hes got anywheres from 3 - 5 years left in him first day TE in 2009 draft - if bills draft a TE in round 1 or 2 most likely he'd be starter from day 1 also...rookie TE would take half a season up to 2 seasons maybe even 3 seasons to get acclimated to the NFL...highly doubt any TE in this draft has the potential to be as good as TG, not saying we couldnt find a stud TE just not another TG so basicaly the Bills could waste anywhere up to 3 years on a draft TE to get what they can have from day 1 with TG..any TE the Bills pick in the draft would be a 50/50 on potential...It just seems smarter to spend a #2 or #3 on a known commadity then take a chance on a draft pick that cpould end up flopping..or worse take 2-3 years to become great and then leave for better $ after only 1 or 2 good seasons in Buffalo

yea thats what Im saying...5 games isnt enough to start decideing whos had the best season...