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WideNine
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9 hours ago, Big Turk said:
watched another video
Watched another video where a former College and NFL QB(lots of teams, practice squads, etc, no NFL games) and he called the defense "33 Weak"? It's the first play breakdown in the video and he talks about it for like 5 minutes.
Is that something similar to what you are saying?
I think what is a bit confusing with the Saban diagram is it showing the defense vs a 2x1 set and the play with Shakir we were in a 3x1 set.
Winfield the S drops down into the box and his take was that he was in that overhang defender role. If that were the case Winfield should be heading to the flat and getting the right leverage to cover Cook and then I think the CB at the boundary would be dropping into the deep 3rd.
Instead Winfield turns inside at the snap and backpedals to take the mesh receiver on the crossing route leaving that flat and Cook uncovered.
The boundary CB seems to have the flat and a bead on Cook all the way so I am not convinced he was supposed to drop deep into a cover 3 zone.
So much to learn from diagnosing one play.
OR... I realized I could have read what HoofHearted posted above for the 3x1 adjustment.
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11 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
This is a perfect example of how the broadcast angle at full speed really doesn’t tell the whole story.
So true.
Looked in real time like Allen had a brain fart and was trying a stupid move to throw the ball away...
But from the different angle you can see where his eyes went and that he was looking at the check down option.
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10 hours ago, Beck Water said:
I wish it were easier to put in screenshots. I have to re-size them and it still seems to limit me to 2
I know right?
In a digital world where 2 often means terabyte limit, we still have retro kilobyte limits.
All I want for Christmas is to drop an image on TBD without it giving me the finger.
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49 minutes ago, Doc said:
I would give you 4 thumbs up if I could.
My stupid phone.
It glitched once and did that.
Loved the play on words though Doc. 👍👍👍👍
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30 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:
That was also a crazy game. It was relatively close, but once it got a bit out of hand the Broncos D gave up. Remember, it was a week 3 game in Miami with a heat index over 100.
Hard to forget that home field shade benefit Miami has on warm days.
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58 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:
After 25 years I still can’t figure out football. The broncos let up 70 points to the dolphins and then held the chiefs to 9 points
Familiarity factors in I think.
Chiefs and Broncos in the same division vs playing a Miami team you do not know well.
Same reason Miami looks like world beaters outside our division, but can struggle against the Bills, Jets, or even the Pats.
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12 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
Still bad to me. I watched the Dolphins/Pats game and just couldn’t believe Bills made Mac Jones looked like a competent qb. He really isn’t at all.NE had a good plan and we got off to a really bad/slow start with the pick on the very first offensive posession.
Dorsey needs to stop overthinking goal line scenarios and get away from gun down there when it is a few feet or inches to go.
McD was leaning into Williams at LB and Darth Hoody took the rookie to school which opened things up for Mac in the middle. That is why he got benched that game.
He is a rook and needs more time to bake, more reps sprinkled in to learn his assignments in this defense.
You see them using Dodson a bit more on early or short yardage downs for his experience and what he does well - defending the run. They are using Poyer in the LB role on down and distance - passing downs with Rapp backing his S role.
This is the bandaid solution they have for the experienced read and react loss of Milano
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21 minutes ago, WideNine said:
Let them go dude this is great stuff and no harm done...
I love this when folks dig into what defenses were trying to do and why it did or didn't work.
Folks don't have to end up agreeing just be respectful and open to learning new things or a different take.
A shame.
Selfishly I wanted you both to keep going and it was very interesting.
There is so much variation to the terms used for similar techniques that I was enjoying how you both were breaking down the basics
Who was responsible for that deep 3rd (if it was Cover 3 and not a blown Cover 2) with Shakir's clearing route and then the flat.
Why I like to tune in here and don't mind getting taken down a peg
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1 hour ago, BillsUberAlles said:
So let me get this straight...you are trying to tell a former college defensive coordinator he doesn't know what he is talking about because you read a playbook?
Let me know how that one works for you. Should probably change your username.
Let them go dude this is great stuff and no harm done...
I love this when folks dig into what defenses were trying to do and why it did or didn't work.
Folks don't have to end up agreeing just be respectful and open to learning new things or a different take.
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7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
The headline is actually "How Ken Dorsey Got Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills Offense on Track & Defensive Standouts".
Trust you to totally change change the emphasis to your own obsession.
He certainly did like what Allen did, no question. And for good reason. But he complimented the whole team, in depth.
He asks how the Bills found the rhythm and gets into what Dorsey did and what changes they made that was what Marino started with. Mentions more tempo, more 11 personnel making it more into a space game, at least against this opponent. Mentioned going back to a lot of their core concepts.
I don't think he even mentioned Allen through the first 6:30, and that was just one sentence. Allen wasn't mentioned again in the first ten minutes. Second mention was around 10:10, and it was again just a sentence.
The headline here was the changes the Bills made to make the offense go better.
"He just got back to basics: tempo, spread, 11 personnel, mesh, tackle wraps, RPOs, play action, and that allowed Josh Allen to play really good football." After that sentence, at 11:02, he gets into how well Allen played.
Yup.
And why 11 and spread worked well against a Bowles defense that plays more man defense and it was a good plan with the Bills short on TEs.
Did not hurt that most of our offense is very familiar with the alignment and plays.
The mesh and rub concepts work better against man-heavy defenses like Bowles who likes to send the extra rusher than some of the zone-heavy defenses we have seen.
I am going to be curious to see how McD changes up his defense of bunch formations near the goal line.
Against NE, Henry wiped out our defenders that had inside-out matching rules. Should have been an OPI, but an easy rub either way to pull off to free up that wheel behind them to the boundary.
The variations of 2-read or palms I have seen I don't think would work very well near the goal line as their rules generally require defenders to maintain some depth.
I should just bite the bullet and sign up for the All-22 because I love that stuff.
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6 hours ago, Warcodered said:
Yeah Josh does do that, but the only one of those I can say is from this season is the Patriots one at the start, and sure he definitely sold it. But the defender made a dumb decision hitting Josh up high like that late, that's going to bite you on the ass.
I felt like they were going out of their way to put hits on Allen well after he released the ball...often taking a few steps to get there too.
Nothing wrong with Allen playing one of those up to get some yards.
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On 10/27/2023 at 4:55 AM, FireChans said:
Daboll let Josh run when spread out, which was basically back-breaking for defenses. If they spied, it was single coverage and bbq chicken. If they didn’t, Josh could look and pull it down if nothing was there.
Leave it to Kenny to call the same plays with a fundamental misunderstanding of why it worked lmao
A bit of an oversimplification.
The spread worked till it didn't and then the sky was falling, Josh is getting blown up, the OL can't hold blocks for 5 seconds, or they are making Allen run for his life, or they don't run the ball enough with our RBs to take some of the pressure off Josh.
This year they wanted Kincaid in the lineup (for obvious reasons), but felt Knox was too important to keep off the field.
That is likely the most plausible reason they went to more 12 personnel which most good offensive teams traditionally use more than the Bills any ways and there is a lot you can run out of that set.
With Knox out they went to 11 personnel or empty on occasion. That is familiar ground for this offense and a good move on a short week and considering we are short on TE's.
One could argue that we could stick with more 11 with Shakir for Knox, hard to ignore what he brings to a game. Maybe Knox subbing in for Davis if and when Knox is healthy for 12 personnel plays.
The tempo and execution was good and Allen knew where to go with the ball to beat the blitzes and when to take off when their LBs and S's were manned up leaving open field for Allen to gallop through.
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Folks keep rushing to judgement after each game and blowing with the wind. He's great and can do no wrong, or he is not salvageable.
It is a journey folks. There are a lot of things Allen does well, and defenses are trying their best to take those things away. When one team has success against Allen, the next team copies that blueprint.
Allen has had to reinvent himself to attack defenses in new ways and that is not always going to look pretty.
The good thing is the more ways Allen learns to attack defenses, the more they will have to take chances leaving guys open or in cover-0 and Allen will get better at recognizing those opportunities and making them pay for them.
Each game is a journey not the destination.
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1 hour ago, Mango said:
One specific bright spot from last night wasn't just Davis, but it was the diversity of routes and depth that Davis ran last night. He didn't just have a good game he basically ran all over the field and caught everything thrown his way.
Special shout out to Shakir who seems to have a knack for finding green space.Even after I slept on it, I am very angry with Josh and Dorsey for costing me an 11 leg parlay. All they needed to do was throw the ball to Cook twice. One more pass to Cook. ONE! Come on guys.
Teams have played off of Davis knowing it takes some runway for him to get up to speed and his target depth is usually deeper.
The Bills used that cushion to their advantage, hitting Davis and letting him power his way to the sticks.
It was a good adjustment by Dorsey and the offense...
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13 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:
yes the Bucs caught a ton of breaks/lucky bounces to have a shot at the ending but the Bills allowed it with bad play calls, lack of discipline on defense and taking their foot off the gas too soon All trademarks of McDermott
As much as Beane and McD focus on edge rushers and DBs in the draft (and looking like Elam may be a wash) it amazes me that they have not prioritized that 1-T DT spot.
1st we had Star who was on the downward spiral of performance, then Settle and Jones in FA. Jones is fantastic when not injured and Settle is not the answer to anchor this line.
For how important that position is to anchoring this line and making this defense hum, they need to prioritized a young prospect to groom.
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2 hours ago, Dopey said:
and then injuries???
Yep.
Every freaking year our roster of impact starters seems to get decimated by injuries.
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4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
Josh was anything but bad tonight.
Josh played well - no complaints here except Dorsey's baffling magic 8-ball playcalling.
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Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
My god I do not want to be Jordan phillips in that locker room
There was a ref that was only like a yard away in the replay it was such a bad penalty to take.
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10 minutes ago, Nelius said:
98% of post game interviews are going to say that
Funny though.
I think the odds are pretty good that someone will win.
They should be saying it is hard to win in the nfl, but easy as **** to lose😁 -
1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:
Shakir is the new Cole.
Shakir came up big this game and so did Kincaid.
Even Davis showed some grit with rare RAC.
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Not the best called game by McD.
They keep ignoring drafting that effective 1-Tech we need when Jones goes down - this defensive front looks completely different when he is out.
Dorsey just does not have a good handle on situational offense and how to best use his players - that call to go shotgun with our team just inches from scoring screamed incompetent and stubbornly dumb overthinking what will work.This is the first time I have said this, but I think they should be looking around for someone that would be a better OC fit for Allen and the kind offensive talent they have.
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Does this team just have to play down and do dumb ***** to make every game a nailbiter win or loss.
I think being a Bills fan should be a pre-condition they check for when health screening - my heart can't take it.
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Diggs was like enough is enough!
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Just now, BruceVilanch said:
If anyone can do it our bills can boys!!!
Years of watching this team ***** defeat from the jaws of victory - C'mon already.
Clost this damn thing out with a win.
JT O'Sullivan QB School Video Breakdown of Allen in Week 8 against TB - some very interesting points
in The Stadium Wall
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I think they could and maybe should think about making some changes to the makeup of that QB room this off-season.