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2 hours ago, BRH said:
I have seen this screenshot shared elsewhere but no one is providing any video. Does anyone know specifically which play this was so I can go look at the A22?
Bengals fans are claiming, of course, that the defender "lost his balance in the snow and was falling backward." I think that's BS but without video it's hard to say with 100% certainty.
If it's really a leg whip then the Bills ought to be alerting the league.
I did make a clip of that, but our attach size is too small to support it.
If you do have access to the All-22 I think it should be around the 25:50 mark and no way was that a falling backward thing. Also, on that same play Allen gets wrapped up by their DT who does that rodeo thing of wrapping the leg and swinging the QB and Allen's head bounces off the turf.
To mirror Joe's comments, "you don't like to see that happen with our star QB."
Wondering if the NFL swung from over-protecting QBs the past few years to turning a blind eye to a lot of things they should call.
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4 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:
Shout out to Joe Brady for calling a play action pass on the Bills first offensive play.
I guess the intern that frequents these fan boards made a convincing argument for it.
Yeah, that was a great tendency breaker. 1st down for the game in the snow, the Bills will definitely run the ball right?
Not-so-much. Instead we suck their defense and rookie LBs into defending the run and Cook and easily get our TE open behind them.
We need to continue to use play action and sneaking those TEs out after run blocking motion as a regular thing to keep teams from jumping the snap and run blitzing.
We have a lot of TE talent we need to continue to find ways to keep them involved in the passing game.
Teams will adjust, but so many times the Bengals simply did not account for our TEs once they started blocking or chipping. Once they released into a route no one went with them.
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6 hours ago, Marv Levy said:
THIS! I was wondering out loud why the hell he would do this? If it accomplished anything, I really don't know what it was?! Seemed like a gigantic waste of a TO.
I think that was because Bishop couldn't go and they needed to adjust for a substitution.
It was not a serious injury just dehydration and cramping.
Nice summary as usual Virgil.
Marino spotted this in his All-22 and thought I would share.

...and yes, that is Allen getting kicked and apparently the ref is not in position to see that - go figure?
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The Texans took advantage of a backup RT and a concussed Dawkins. We are not as good as KC with our interior OL.
The Texans don't use a spy which is the best way to get to Mahomes - especially with how good KC is from Guard-to-Guard giving him clear paths to step up and escape. -
Just now, Chicken Boo said:
He doesn't have 5 rings for nothing.
Sending 6 and 8 and Stroud's numbers fall off a cliff when pressured.
Too bad the Texans do not know how to run a screen as they would take one to the house if they got free behind that all out pressure.
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Stroud is so bad when pressured.
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Finally doubled Jones had all the time in the world and Stoud air mails it.
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They need to double team Jones he has been a one-man wrecking crew
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Just now, DapperCam said:
That's a personal foul facemask? Lol
Weakest calls ever going Mahomes way.
Only reason you could see him touch the facemask was that the replay was in slow motion.
Barely freaking grazed it.
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1 hour ago, WideNine said:
I think it was a great job by this coaching staff trying to generate pressure and turnovers and keep the Bengals running back in check (2nd half adjustments).
Tough conditions to air it out unless you have a Higgins who can one-hand catches in the snow or a Chase - those are two very talented receivers. Our best option that Allen trusts the most in these conditions is likely Kincaid and he was not at 100 %. So we had to lean on the running game and the Bengals were pretty intent on stopping that.
They have Burrow who has great touch and anticipation with receiving targets he has worked with for many years and we have Allen, who can make you pay with his legs for using man coverage and sending extra guys on the rush... great match-up.
Plenty to unpack with this game, but no one is going to say the Bengals coaching staff sucks although they lost. -
20 minutes ago, Simon said:
Why on Earth would anybody gaf?
Nick Wright... ugh, with KC playing like trash I almost wonder how his tired trope of baiting fans of other teams is working out for him.
Not that I that I plan on listening to him.
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36 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Steelers are trying to secure us a bye in the first round
We spanked them pretty bad and Brady embarrassed them by running the same play successfully over and over. The score honestly did not show how little control they had of that game where the Bills started two backup OTs. The fans booing their theme song and calling for the firing their HC said it all.
You know they came out with a lot of wounded pride and got after it today.
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53 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:
We stole that game. Thank God for Benford. Rest of the defense was dumpster juice
I think Benford and Hairston did as good of a job as can be expected. Bishop has been a dog and has stayed healthy (knock on wood). There are a lot of shots that Burrow turned down probably because those two were playing pretty well.
Hancock needs a lot more coaching up and safety is an area that McD has done wonders with in the past, but the kid is a rookie and when he platoons with Poyer you can tell he is still not sure where to roll his coverage and he is late getting where he needs to be to provide help over top.
Slot has been tough to watch this year and teams are really going after Taron and Cam. Not just going after the short stuff, but having them carry coverage downfield. I never thought about slot corner as being a team need in the off season, but I did not expect Taron to decline as much as he has. Cam is ok, but I think of him as more of a depth player to help when there are injuries - not a high-end starter.
The line really needs Epenesa and Groot to step up with all the injuries. I thought the interior did a decent job on the run stops (particularly in the 2nd half) forcing those to bounce more outside. Not a lot of push up the middle to collapse the pocket, but that was what they paid Oliver to produce (and he is out) and Sanders who was probably intended as someone to spell Oliver is still a rookie with a long ways to go (and they have been playing him at DE) which is not his natural position.
A mash unit with a lot of rookies and new faces trying to keep the wheels from falling off - I am ok with giving Bosa another week to get healthy.
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Just now, NickelCity said:
That, the (failed 4th down conversion in the 1st half), the friggin 4th and goal?? Aggressive
No-win situation.
If the coaches don't go for it they are playing scared and too conservative. If they do and it doesn't work, a foolish gamble.
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Just now, Juice_32 said:
Josh is so good. He masks so many flaws.
As a franchise QB should do as their pay takes up much of the cap and they are expected to raise the talent around them. Not trying to knock Allen, but that is what it means to be a franchise QB and not just a rent-a-QB that can manage a team to success.
I would like the Bills to find/settle on some good receivers that are durable so Allen can build up more rapport with them - I think that will do wonders for Allen getting the ball out faster and anticipating where they will be. I like Kincaid and had high-hopes for Palmer but they have to be more available during the season.
We need to have a healthier team - I think it is hard to judge this coaching staff when so many of the guys that should be starting are injured. Would like to see what they could do if they actually had most of their starting rosters.-
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I think it was a great job by this coaching staff trying to generate pressure and turnovers and keep the Bengals running back in check.
Tough conditions to air it out unless you have a Higgins who can one-hand catches in the snow or a Chase - those are two very talented receivers. Our best option that Allen trusts the most in these conditions is likely Kincaid and he was not at 100 %. So we had to lean on the running game and the Bengals were pretty intent on stopping that.
They have Burrow who has great touch and anticipation with receiving targets he has worked with for many years and we have Allen, who can make you pay with his legs for using man coverage and sending extra guys on the rush... great match-up.
Plenty to unpack with this game, but no one is going to say the Bengals coaching staff sucks although they lost.-
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Really bad safety play from the guy not named Bishop.
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21 minutes ago, Einstein said:
this team would be 2-10 without Josh.
That is why you pay a franchise QB what you do as they are expected to carry affordable pieces.
It is still a QB driven league even with more of the 13 personnel and focus on running the ball.
And we get as far without Allen as other teams losing their franchise QB, maybe even less as those teams with a shutdown defence may be able to pull off a win with some kind of pedestrian QB play from a backup.
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McD is coaching his butt off and I know that is not a popular opinion.
Not many defensive coaches could take this roster and generate any pass rush and run stops. He and Babbich have had to be so creative with the simulated pressures and blitzes as they knew they could not sit back in zone with our issues with zone matching and how easily Burrow can pick that apart.
That turnover was off a Benford corner blitz.
Not sure what the TO was for either, but willing to extend some grace to that side of the ball that has really struggled with keeping players healthy. -
Just now, Bermuda Triangle said:
Who’s been worse today: Taron Johnson or Cam Lewis?
Both leave a lot to be desired at slot, but I think Taron has been worse this year as his play has really tailed off. I have been a big Taron Johnson fan for years, but the play has not been there this year. Cam could be upgraded and kept as good depth.
For either, slot is probably one of the toughest positions to play in the snow and rain because it is all about following that quick twitch slot receiver and they know where they are going.
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1 hour ago, balln said:
Again. How does one injure their foot so severely during a WALKTHROUGH (Wednesday practice) that they can’t practice at all Thursday.
is Ed Oliver’s horse allowed in the showers or something ?
We have to be careful of those walkthroughs... could lead to cramps and hang nails too.
Did not see this posted, but just FYI on the officiating crew.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/buffalo-bills-get-unfamiliar-officiating-crew-vs-cincinnati-bengals-in-week-14/ar-AA1RJxK5?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69321fe62a0b4c72886f4201d8f2efa2&ei=132
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3 hours ago, NewEra said:
We are 16th in pressure and 18th in sacks. You can make your point without lying.
yes, our pass rush isn’t very good. It’s not at the bottom of the league
Our blitz packages have been pretty successful this season.
Not at getting sacks or preventing QBs from getting the pass off, but limiting the success on those passing plays.
Not saying those will be effective against Burrow, but neither do I think you can sit back and let him pick you apart.
Burrow's anticipation and accuracy also got me thinking about the everyone eats philosophy and replaceable receiving targets and how that impacts Allen's need to build rapport and chemistry with his receivers. Took a long time for he and Kincaid to really click.
What a luxury Burrow has when you consider he has been tossing footballs to Ja'Mar Chase since they were together at college, and T. Higgins has been on the Bengals roster a long time too.
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6 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:
We should be careful reading too much into this game.
After the Texans game we were wasting Allen's prime, the coach's message was stale, Allen needed weapons, etc. That was 10 days ago.
Now after smashing the Steelers we're the 85 Bears.
Not many realize just how bad the Steelers actually are. They are 6-6 because NE and Indy threw up all over themselves and turned the ball over again and again and again. And NE still could have won that game. They also played the Bengals twice without Burrow and gave up 30+ to Flacco in a loss.
It'll become apparent once the Ravens hammer them twice and they go on to lose a bunch down the stretch.
I'm glad we won, but let's realize that the opponent basically gave up during the game because their offense cannot score 10 points.
I dunno.
Not many teams out there look like world beaters. Our game against the Texans was ugly as we went against a number 1 defense and looked like it.
Even then we were a Gabe Davis toe tap away from probably pulling out a win.
Been listening to a lot of film breakdown and Allen is very hesitant this year pulling the trigger. There are certainly times where there are few open options, but plenty of times that there are options available if he just gets the ball out quicker to the right read.
With Allen I think it has more to do with chemistry and confidence in his receiving targets than just bringing in more new talent. As we have seen with Kincaid, it takes Allen some time to build that chemistry and trust.
Getting Kincaid back and more reps with Palmer and Brandon Cooks will probably open things up because Allen won't hesitate as much pulling the trigger.
A lot of injuries, but the defense has been playing a bit better of late. We will see where this rocky season takes us. McD has never beaten a Burrow-led Bengals team so time to break that streak
Go Bills!
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7 hours ago, Psautcsk said:
The Pats look more physical than most teams I have seen, including the Bills. Maybe it is just them playing like they care a lot on every play though.
The Bills have certainly had their issues, but have to wonder how our first game against the Pats would have gone sans the record number of flags thrown by Hochuli's crew and penalty yards that kept the Bills way behind the sticks through most of the game and negated so many positive plays.
Fingers crossed we do not have that crew again, and let the chips fall where they may.
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A Few Thoughts about the Bengals Game - Community Edition
in The Stadium Wall
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I agree..you look at how effective a good play action handoff fake can be when you look at how well it worked for Lamar for years and even how well it is working for the Chargers with their renewed emphasis on their running game and Herbert's use of the read option plays.
Allen does not do himself any favors if he does not really sell those fake handoffs. They are highly effective and there is so much misdirection Brady can bake into play action.
Dating myself as an old dog here, but Peyton used to practice those over and over to make sure there were no tells and that his mechanics remained consistent whether faking or handing it off.