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Kind of leaning here. That opening drive was all Dorse. Then McD got more involved as the game progressed. A few flashes here and there isn't really enough to choose Dorsey though, as he's also been pretty bad at times. He's going to be the first one gone and he probably deserves it, even if it may be partially as the fall guy. So I guess both?

Spencer Brown man. Good lord. I don't even know what you do at this point but he has far more extreme highs and lows than JA. Sticking with the o-line, they did this nice little blurp on how great Dion has been this year (agreed), and as soon as it was over Hendrickson got a sack. Couldn't have been more billsy timing. In fairness Dion still did his initial job on that play and then everything broke down and Trey got him from behind, but the old Bills fan in me felt the gut punch when that happened

Guess it's a matter of opinion but would like to know an example of depth that you think might bring it home? Even excluding Davis, the Kincaid-Harty-Shakir, even Sherfield combo is better than what a lot of teams are working with as 3rd-5th options. Weirdly enough Baltimore has pretty solid depth which was always their issue for years but beyond that I'm not seeing anything other than Cincy

I don't think running the math at 5-3 makes me "most optimistic". Now it's 5-4 and I'm not. That's realistic, which is not to be confused with the stuff that guys like you and Airseven do before the season even starts.

Fair, he's not a #2 and I've agreed with that take for weeks now. I still think our collective JAGs are better than a lot of other teams. It's pretty rough out there. Outside of the very obvious #2 void, which is impactful, I don't think it's much of a valid complaint. I mean the Browns are still giving Marquise Goodwin regular snaps.

Yeah, probably. There's something going on. I know I said that they still had a great shot 4 days ago, which many posters have reminded me of lol, and they did. But then today happened, and now the odds are much worse. I read some chatter earlier, maybe in the game day thread, that McD stuck his nose in the offense after the first drive. Trying to find it but coming up empty, but nonetheless that really muddies the water if so. You almost have no choice but to be anti McD if there's any truth to that, because it's so much easier to say Dorse should go. If Dorse engineered that first drive, and then things changed, then it makes it all weird.

Again, coaching and execution. Braxton Berrios had 18 catches last year. He should not be putting up better numbers than Gabe and Harty and you can't possibly believe that he's actually better than both.

Even though it ended in miserable fashion I generally like how he hurtles himself like a missile for about 2+ yards after every play. He's one of the more unique TEs I've seen.

Lol no I an admit.

I don't really agree with this. Miami truly has nobody at WR after their big 2, and their tight ends are an absolute waste land. They actually somehow still have Tyler Kroft on their roster. Yes, the same Tyler Kroft. Jets are similarly awful after Garrett Wilson and probably shouldn't have had such a falling out with Moore considering that they're still in contention. Our "JAGS" are truly better than other teams JAGS, it's coaching and execution.

As many have said, he's regularly talking to people. It's likely just convenient camera work since weirdo headcase Josh with super athletic skills is the narrative now. He's not actually sitting there in a trance for 10 minutes at a time.

I’m 43 and fat. Von looked like me playing with my kids on that whiff.

Josh didn’t sell that a bit but thankfully he’s a bull man

Good start!

Does McD kind of just spectate during offense? Still confused by this whole dynamic

WGR calls were ten times better

Honestly huge stop. A+ D

That blown face mask call makes the most ridiculous intentional grounding call that I’ve ever seen some how even more absurd. Refs really are damaging the product

Shame Gabe is a borderline #3 ghost now that Kincaid has arrived

That intentional grounding was just too weird

Kincaid walking normal already, just a stinger

You mean like a shredded throwing finger? We’ll see

It’s a tough game Burrow. That’s gonna hurt a lot worse in 30 mins

Keep hitting him, our only hope

Hurst weirdly ate us alive at TE last year. Had really hoped they would have fixed that. Deja vu indeed