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If Josh didn't show the most awe inspiring, heroic, balls to the wall QB play, it would have taken much longer to get past the epic collapse by our coaching staff after he handed them a home championship game.
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17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
We have no idea.
If I were Schoen, and I wanted to be the GM and wanted to hire Brian Daboll, the LAST thing I would do would be to suggest to my new employers that maybe they could hire someone other than My Guy, and still recruit him as OC, so it doesn't seem likely to me.
Personally, I think all these HC and HC candidates have big egos. They may pat dogs on the head and help little old ladies cross the street when outside the facility, but inside it they are determined that What They Want to Do is Correct.
I think that McDermott probably generally tries to sit back and stay out of the offense and Let Daboll Cook, and to be "growth minded" and positive when he does weigh in, but I also expect that after the Jacksonville game, then after the Indy game, McDermott held a Come to Jesus meeting with Daboll about the state of the run game and it was blunt and ugly, and neither of them were very happy with the other in the aftermath.
But in fact, the run game improved and it helped us finish the season strong and get to the Division round, which helped Daboll land a HC job.
So it's probably Yesterday's newspaper.
Look at the actual tweets that are quoted. McDonnell (the NYG pro personnel guy) is quoted as saying "he HEARD" that Daboll wasn't happy and might leave even if not HC.
In other words, it's HEARSAY
You're right, I regret regurgitating that nastiness.
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4 minutes ago, london_bills said:
Where did Daboll trash McDermott?
In Flores lawsuit, he claims Brian said he was down on Sean, and even if he wasn't offered an HC job, he wanted out. This is according to Nate Mendelssohn, a beat reporter I guess.
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1 hour ago, Charles Romes said:
I mean can you blame the guy for finally losing it. His record was amazing given the circumstances.
He is a winning, no nonsense coach. I think he would be great for a young team like Jax. The problem is he's terrible with the media and he will get up in the faces of his bosses and ownership if he thinks they're not helping him win. Sad situation.
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45 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
Who cares. Daboll thought he was going to be a coach in 2021 cycle and didnt get it, furthermore he was pissy because McDermott publicly stated they needed to be more balanced on offense. I honestly think he came off like a goof in his opening press conference. Three years from now, Daboll will be asking for his job back.
He burned his bridges up here. The guy got his 1st HC job and he trashes Sean, who gave him the OC job that laid the groundwork. Classless. Brian, every Bills player gave you a sterling endorsement and you stick in Sean's ear.
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Great move by Beane. This guy will be a younger, more unpredictable and better suited to the type of offense Josh wants to run. He provides continuity with his understanding of what Brian did well, a coordination with Josh's passing guru Palmer and comfort zone for the best QB in the industry. If you disagree with the hire,ask yourself if the was Rodgers or Brady asking for a coach or a player, what would any team do?
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
I thought he might go after asst OL coach Ryan Wendell who he knows from NE. Maybe both?
The Bills *might* be ok with it? Not sure what they think of him…
Let him go,he's ordinary. He'll have to get used to bad O-line play,because that's what the G-Men do.
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2 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:
Agreed.
It’s a tougher pill to swallow for me knowing McD blew that game, especially after watching 17 leave his blood, sweat, and tears out there. That just should not happen.
I hope so with McD, but I’m not as encouraged as you. He was also horrible in last years AFC championship game and had a year to let that marinate and we still saw him bungle it this year.
Exactly. That wasn’t asking Bass to do something foreign. He’s right about the D, wrong about the kickoff as he probably just doesn’t have that familiarity with what we did all season.You're right, no reason to be encouraged until you see him change. The only thing is if Beane and Terry/Kim indicate this ultra-concervative style is not working with our personnel, changes could come.
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We know it was one mistake after another. Do we need Sean Payton to explain what we did wrong. Sean McDermott has to sleep with it. Hopefully this scar makes Sean more proactive when the stakes are so high. Belichick, Parcells, Payton all know when you can make a move to improve your chances, take the risk. Bills fans will expect that henceforth.
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I hope Joe Cool says the same thing to him when the Bengal end their season.
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Why not surround our great QB with better skill guys and an improved O-line. As it is ,Josh will find a way, but Sanders and McKenzie must be replaced with speed and end game production. Another good RB would also help.
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44 minutes ago, Special K said:
If the decision is between a bunch of retreads who run old school offenses, or a young innovative offensive mind who understands the direction NFL offenses are headed, give me the young mind please.
Well said Mr. K. 100%
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:
Not much really. It comes down to McD and Beane s decision . Garret and Childress are still very respected coaches in a small nfl circle. I expect they’ll do their due diligence and pick the best candidate.
Garrett was terrible with Dak, got fired in season by the lowly Giants. Childress was bad with Minn and has never established himself as a winner. Remember me touting Dorsey. He's going to be good. He was instrumental in making Josh the best in the business.
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16 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:
First time play caller with team on the verge of Super Bowl is a big risk for Mcd to take. I’d suspect they look at other options and keep Dorsey as final option if all others fail.
Its a hot job. Better then some head coaching positions. There is plenty of options out there. Look for Nagy, Chula, Chud, Childress, Garrett as top candidates.
All scrap heap,failed HCs and OCs. Childress,Garrett,those two kill your argument right off the bat. Again our HOF QB wants Dorsey and trusts him. Means nothing right.
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2 hours ago, Einstein said:
1) He didnt run anything into the ground. He was fired due to a power struggle between him and Howie Roseman.
2) Hasn't sniffed a job? He is literally interviewing for a Head Coach job this week lol.
Listen, I understand you like Doug and what he did with Foles the SB year was nothing if not miraculous. His subsequent years were bad and as a consequence they had to offload their 1st rd QB and Foles. Besides why would he come to Buffalo to be Sean's OC That the formula for disaster.
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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
One more time...the ridiculous part wasn't the suggestion that the Bills should consider who Josh prefers as OC, it was the suggestion that if they didn't, and hired someone else, this would kill the Bills chances of making it to the SB.
It's not a "gothca". It's what you actually said.
2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:One more time...the ridiculous part wasn't the suggestion that the Bills should consider who Josh prefers as OC, it was the suggestion that if they didn't, and hired someone else, this would kill the Bills chances of making it to the SB.
It's not a "gothca". It's what you actually said.
Since you insist on calling my assertion "ridiculous " without the courtesy of offering a legitimate reason,I can only infer that you're trying to insult me. Let me tell you,in this my final installment in this tedious back and forth, why it's not ridiculous. Since 1994 when the Bills went to the SB,they've had numerous OCs. 28 years of losing and being the whipping boy of the AFCE. Now we have a team that has some talent, if you don't have quality playcalling, why should anyone expect better results. Dorsey has been at the side of Dabol and has Josh's trust. He should provide continuity,not to mention the skill players all want him. If you prefer a failed OC off the scrap heap,good luck.
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
With all due respect to Allen, he only knows what he knows.
He likes who he has been surrounded with. But he doesnt know what other experts are out there.
I am hoping the Bills make a strong push for Doug Pederson. He won a SB with the Bears 3rd string QB. That is beyond impressive.
And then was fired shortly after for running that franchise into the ground and alienating the fanbase because he thought he invented modern offensive football strategy. By the way, why hasn't Doug gotten a sniff of OC or HC jobs since being fired? Could be his head is to big for the room.
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7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
It wasn't "arbitrary"--I was simply pointing out your dramatics. You posted something that made no sense, then you retracted it after I pointed that out.
Also, the Bills did advance to the AFCC game under Daboll/Dorsey...last year. And got blown out.
Why is everything a gotcha moment with you. I gave my opinion about Beane not retaining Dorsey and how it would be a negative. I didn’t retract anything. You're in no position to call anything ridiculous. You have your opinion,that's all.
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22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Then why post that it will?
Getting Dorsey simply because he's a guy the QB wants has nothing to do with their chances of getting to the SB.
What if Dorsey sucks as an actual Coordinator?--worse than Daboll, who couldn't, with Josh, get them to the SB?
Did Josh ascend to elite status under Dabol/Dorsey, as opposed to the losing OCs Beane brought before Dabol,who were replaced in short order. You want to diminish what Dabol/Dorsey accomplished, where we we should have advanced to a home Championship game if not for Sean's epic brain freeze the last 13 seconds, go right ahead. Don't prioritize what makes Josh comfortable with a playcaller. Taking any leftover failed OC will be fine. Some of the people just want to be arbitrary.
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3 minutes ago, Doc said:
All contracts need to be approved by the NFL, even coaching contracts. They'd toss it out immediately because, again, you're already giving the job to Dorsey and then interviewing a minority candidate just to cross the t's and dot the i's and making a mockery of the Rooney Rule. While that's pretty much what's done anyway, to put it in writing wouldn't fly.
And it's not our job, but we're discussing it. You don't think they/someone already thought of doing it and it isn't allowed?
First of all, I/we can't do a thing about it, so I/we have no choice but to accept whatever happens. Second of all, everyone has their own motivation. You think Beane needs to tell Dorsey that Buffalo is an infinitely better situation than Jersey? No, he doesn't. It's obvious to everyone, even Giants fans. So there's obviously something else at play like a reported huge payday, or maybe Dorsey isn't all that comfortable calling plays on his own. In which case, let him leave. Josh will do fine with whoever they hire. Daboll did nothing in the NFL before joining the Bills and Dorsey was out of football.
What's at play? This is just fodder on this board. You don’t know that Dabol has reached out to Dorsey. My point to all the conspiracy theorists is Josh wants this guy so Beane has a responsibility to the best player on our team to get him. Why are you deluding yourself into accepting his departure as no big deal. Accept whatever happens,accept impotence. Accept mediocrity.
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9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
The "oh boy" obviously is for your contention that the Bills not signing Dorsey as OC will "kill our chances to go (to the SB) in the future".
Ridiculous.
It may not result in killing our chances,but wouldn't you want to make the most important player on your team and arguably the best QB in football,comfortable with his playcaller if you want to maximize our chances. If Josh has expressed his preference on an OC, Beane has a mandate to get him. It's not as if there's multiple teams vying for him It's the Giants, the worst team in football by most accounts.
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4 minutes ago, Doc said:
I seriously doubt AR wants to go to a rebuilding team, which is what the Giants are. If they're not planning on going with Jones, the only other option is Watson. But the Giants' team is devoid of talent and are over the cap. It will be a very heavy lift for Daboll and they will have to draft very well.
Again the GM can only do so much. And Dorsey knows the situation is far better in Buffalo.
Keep accepting mediocrity, the birthright of Bills Fans. If Beane can't retain a QB coach, how can we trust him to improve the roster with FAs. He's a freaking QB coach who hasn't gotten a sniff with regards to an OC job by anyone other than the coach-killing Giants.
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5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
The excuse would be that Dorsey wanted to work with Daboll in NJ. I’m sure McD and Josh want someone who wants to be here.
There seems to be a lot more rumors about Dorsey going to the Giants than staying here. Doesn’t seem likely that he’ll be our OC at this point
Why would Dorsey want to go to a place where coaches go to die. Dabol has no talent,no cap space and ownership that has lost patience with losing. Last 2 coaches, 2 and out. If we can't retain a key piece of our coaching staff,who 17 really wants, Beane sucks.
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18 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:
By all accounts Beane is making a hard push for Dorsey but he gets to make his own choice. He might choose to bolster his reputation as a QB whisperer in NY. There is a lot less risk in that than trying to follow Daboll. Any regression in Buffalo will be blamed on him.
Like I said, with the prospect of HC job in the future, work with 17 or Danny Dimes. If money similar,no Brainerd. The Giants are coach killers.
18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:lol...oh boy
The Bills didn't go to the SB with McD/Daboll/Dorsey.
Their future doesn't hinge on Dorsey.
What does lol oh boy mean? Sean is viewed universally as the sole reason for 13 seconds. It has Nothing to do with Dabol, or Dorsey that we are not good enough. Okay
Daboll wasn’t happy with McDermott?
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Flores is flushing his coaching career for this mission to change NFL hiring practices. He thought Bellicek was on the inside of what the Giants were thinking as to the Rooney Rule and who they wanted to hire. Now, Brian is collateral damage in Flores's social justice mission. If you think Bellicek is a conduit for what Brian was thinking than maybe Sean didn't care about Brian going forward.