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4 minutes ago, Logic said:
Yeah, this is why I'm....underwhelmed, I guess. Kind of disappointed.
Yes, we drafted players at areas of need. We needed a WR, S, C, DT, RB, and we got all of those. Great.
But as I've said multiple times this offseason, I've thought for a while now that we lack difference makers. We lack elite talent around Josh. Guys that can step up in big moments. Blue chippers.
This draft...sure doesn't seem like it provided any hope for that type of player. Coleman doesn't scream "Alpha WR1". Maybe Bishop turns into a playmaking safety, but a hard hitting SS is rarely the big difference maker for a football team. I'll bet the center and DT are pretty good players, but they won't move the needle.
I feel like the Bills -- at best -- spun their wheels this season. At worst, I think their roster got worse. I think our WR corps is worse. I think our defense will be worse.
Whereas, say, KC got a guy who -- by virtue of his field-tilting speed -- could change the entire way teams defend their offense and have a big trickle-down effect...the Bills got an X receiver who seems like he'll be...fine, maybe?
I think I had hope that the Bills would be Super Bowl contenders again this year by virtue of some bold moves to surround Josh with a playmaker or two. Instead, I look at this draft and the 2025 cap space and capital they've collected, and it all screams "two year retooling project" and "2024 is a soft punt".
So yeah...the Bills filled needs. They got players that look...fine. Some will probably be good. But I'm sick of taking safe picks that fill needs. I wanted a big swing or two, and the Bills didn't make one. I don't see any realistic way they overtake KC or can be viewed as legitimate Super Bowl contenders this year, and that's disappointing to me.You were hoping the Bills would go ***** it and get some flashy guy, problem is Beane doesn't do that because he thinks about tomorrow, which is honestly a good thing the way things are lined up next year is actually great. Also wouldn't just look past Coleman, guy like that hits his ceiling and he's a ***** menace.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
We picked a linebacker. Of course we did.
I mean if it ain't broke.
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Just now, UKBillFan said:
Is there any logic to drafting a WR at this point?
Shutting some people up....not that it'd work.
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1 minute ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:
And there goes Thrash...
I assume he surfs.
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46 minutes ago, <bills4life> said:
God I hope he does. Because getting only Keon Coleman in arguably one of the best wr draft in years and was our number one need in the off-season after letting go of our 1a and 1b starting receivers, feels like front office malfeasance. Coleman better be as good as they think he is.
Curtis Samuel did still sign here right?
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1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:
The Division is still ours. It will still be ours. The FO is NOT preparing for a down season like some folks think. We are absolutely competing for the Division and a Championship.
Yeah Beane is just doing what he always does, everything he can that makes sense to put the team in a position to succeed without ransoming the future, he just happens to have positioned the future in a really good position again next year.
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3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:
Never liked Rattler. Guy is a snake
Yeah but he warns you about it.
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
What a weird draft.
Not bad.. just weird.
Everything we’re doing makes complete sense. We’ve added 3 potential starters at WR, S and C, along with a rotational DT and RB.
Just very business like. Nothing aggressive. No real gambles. Not much boom or bust.. just good players at positions of need, yet nothing that really moves the needle when it comes to Josh trying to slay Mahomes, while fighting off other teams like HOU, NYJ and BAL.
Right like every player picked is likely to be a significant contributor, and we got better than 5th round picks in next years draft, but we didn't get speedy WR so bahumbug.
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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Most likely coming in the 2025 offseason, unfortunately. I think @GunnerBill's assessment is right. They aren't punting on the 2024 season but they are anticipating a down year. The moves they're making now are to set up 2025.
The idea of a post-6/1 trade for a WR also really intrigues me. Aiyuk or even Deebo suddenly makes a ton of sense if we're only giving up 2025 capital for one of them and putting them on the roster after Tre White's cap savings kicks in.
Which makes sense, the roster was getting reshuffled there's going to be an adjustment period no matter what, so they bring in youth and try and get a solid base under key positions with new younger players this year while getting in position make bigger moves next year on a roster that will hopefully be more solidified.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea I think to an extent that is right. Everything they have done this offseason suggests they have taken a year off of the going all in on winning a championship to do a 2 year re-load.
The WR they took makes more sense this way too, they didn't take the guy that's as immediately ready as the others, they took the big raw physical freak they could develop.
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Just now, HappyDays said:
I just realized the pick we gave the Bears was their pick to begin with. They effectively traded us a 2025 4th rounder for Ryan Bates.
Bates has always been so reliable for us.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea. It does feel like they are seeing the re-load of this roster as very much a two year job. I'm not saying they are giving up on this season, but I think the lack of urgency is because they think realistically they can't do much more to make 2024 better.
Beane would definitely strike as the type of guy to do what he could that makes sense, while not ruining a great shot at having great position to make some serious moves next year. Not only do we have all those picks but Diggs cap hit comes off as well.
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3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
How do we have the vikes 2nd round pick?
That could be a really good pick, Vikings could be really terrible this year.
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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Hmmm. That says to me Beane doesn't like what is left on the board. Which begs the question why did he not get more aggressive to move up earlier?
Maybe Beane wanted the center but getting up a round higher next year was worth it after that.
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3 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
Bills are loading up in next year's draft. Grabbing a Bears 4th rounder.
and the Bears having 1st overall picks this year makes those picks a decent bet for high picks, you never know but a decent bet to make.
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2 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
Do the Bills take Rattler in the 5th as a backup QB? They did it with Fromm and I'll be honest Rattler is a much much better prospect than Fromm
and risk having to cut Mitch?
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2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:
Maybe nobody wants the Bills 5th round picks.
5th round gems would be nice, and really wouldn't mind 2025 4th round picks.
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2 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:
Beane finally did it, he combined 2 players into one. Singletary + Moss = Ray Davis. Which means he'll be here for 2 1/2 years run for about 600 yards and 250 receiving a year with 4, 3rd and short first downs out of 12. And a wonderful back story. Woohoo.
Not for nothing but Single Moss sounds like an awesome fusion.
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4 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
You think Coleman is a #1?
My opinion isn't the point, you and everyone acting like we didn't take one are being disingenuous, Beane is clearly higher on the guy than you are, would you be saying the same thing if they took Franklin at the same spot even though he was available in the 4th round?
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1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:
We needed another WR. Coleman is not a true #1.
So essentially exactly what I just said.
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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
With how he's supposed to be good covering TEs and he commented on how he got good by covering the Utah TEs in practice specifically Kincaid, have to think the two do have a fun relationship.
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Just now, Freddie's Dead said:
More than WR? C'mon man. We got nobody to throw the ball to.
I love that since everyone didn't like who we took at WR everyone is just pretending like we didn't take one.
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1 minute ago, BillsVet said:
Lotta mileage and gonna be 25 in November. Maybe Buddy Nix helped with the board this year in a consultant-type role.
So probably not a guy you'll sign again.
Such is the fate of RBs in the NFL.
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41 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:
I wonder if he missed his calling... maybe he was supposed to become "a man of the cloth?"
Maybe he'll become an ordained minister.
He just helps people find God another way.
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Live 2024 NFL Draft thread - Rounds 4-7 (Do NOT tip the Bills pick)
in The Stadium Wall
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Traded a 5th for a 4th next year from the Bears.