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7 hours ago, AllenWillBust said:
Hopefully Allen. The sooner he shows he's a bust, the sooner we can all move past that mistake and get ready for next years' draft.
Good job Cleveland fan. Haters gonna hate.
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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:
Even if they kept 3 QBs he wouldn't be 3rd. I mean how does it make sense to put the rookie you want to develop 3rd.
Only a Bungals fan can defend that one. Lol.
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1 minute ago, Figster said:
Heres something else you might find funny
laugh when you see Allen 3rd on the depth chart, lol
Again, why do you keep saying you are a fan of all 3? Total goofball.
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13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
I'm pretty sure that's exactly how he fleeced the Bills out of 12 million. Taking a page right out of the Matt Flynn playbook.
Notice AJ as one of the last qbs taken in the free agent market. Could it be because the Bills knew they were drafting a future longtime qb they figured they could hang their hat on?
10 minutes ago, Figster said:Again, big fan of all 3 QB's
With that being said Josh Allen is the future of the franchise and my biggest concern.
And AJ so superior in camp and exhibition games that he will be the starter. Lmao. You are delirious, drunk, or just funny. Keep up the good work.
10 minutes ago, Figster said:Again, big fan of all 3 QB's
With that being said Josh Allen is the future of the franchise and my biggest concern.
10 minutes ago, Figster said:Again, big fan of all 3 QB's
With that being said Josh Allen is the future of the franchise and my biggest concern.
If you are such a big fan of all three qbs, why you trashing Allens qb rating against the Bungals? Anyone with a clue knows the reason why. And if you areally a true fan, you would know better and not throw garbage like that out there. You sound more like an Alabama fan or a Bungals fan. Or AJ's mother or side dish.
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1 minute ago, Figster said:
I'll hang my hat on the regular season wins getting the Bengals to the playoffs or the 16 point come from behind taking the lead in his 1st playoff game that the Bengals D Bungled If its all the same to you BullBuchanan.
Can you please decipher the gibberish you just spouted? I know it is late, but either sleep on it or give up on it. AJ is a nice guy, other than that he better hope his wife doesn't like younger qbs.
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14 minutes ago, Figster said:
You do realize MCCarron was coming back from an injury, rusty, and has already proven he can win football games at the NFL level.
Allen and Peterman haven't proven squat...
You do realize AJ sucked against the Browns, who weren't as good as the Bengals. And that they weren't switching linemen left and right when he was in like they did to Allen. AJ doesn't move in the pocket or have the escapability of Allen. Plus AJ was overwhelmed against the Browns. Not one 1st down. That is horrible. He would have really gotten killed against the Bengals. He thought he was hurt against the Browns, he would be out for the year against the Bengals. Allen is used to dominant defenses playing for Wyoming. And now with proper coaching, he will only grow.
2 minutes ago, Figster said:McD's mouth after the Bears game says he is...
Dream on.
14 minutes ago, Figster said:You do realize MCCarron was coming back from an injury, rusty, and has already proven he can win football games at the NFL level.
Allen and Peterman haven't proven squat...
Rusty, after sitting for 3 days? Lol.
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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:
I'm glad you enjoyed it so much.
He's been my guy all along. You can laugh and count him out all you want, but none of us really know who it will be. Based on things he's said, I think Coach McDermott likes AJ more than a lot of people around here think.
We'll see what happens ...
A guy can dream. But not being able to bring it against the scrubs until the 4th quarter sealed it in my mind. NP will start before AJ ever does. Guaranteed. It is between NP and Allen without a doubt. I am leaning NP, but am an Allen fan all the way. But think it is best to sacrifice NP. But Allen will end up starting by at least a third of the way through the season.
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11 hours ago, sleeby said:
You mean the second half he had last against a non starter defense? All three of our QBs have looked good in the second half and all three bad in the first. Likely our o-line vs a starting defense in large part.
Start anyone but JA in weeks 1-4 and thru decide from there. Our o-line is criminal negligence. We are unlikely to win those games regardless of qb so don't risk the kid until we better know what the o-line can rise up to.
Wrong on the looking bad in the 1st half. All have looked good in the 2nd quarter when they played. Big difference. Agreed, the O-line isn't good enough to support any of them in my thinking.
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1 minute ago, Figster said:
The problem I have is teaching Allen bad mechanics because the BIlls Oline isn't giving him enough time and space for good mechanics. Worse, season ending injury. Allen almost excited his last game start with a concussion. In my opinion McD wanted Allen to get a real taste of what he would be facing during the regular season so started him in game 3. It didn't go well.
Josh Allen is not ready in my humble opinion.
Good thing it is only your humble opinion. Allen started based on his growth through practices and games. AJ showed he wasn't ready against the Browns. Why is that different than Allen against the Bengals? NP is the only one who was consistent, but never faced a #1 offense since week one. So we have no barometer to go off of. To be fair, only NP and Allen have shown growth. And Allen had pissy poor o-line play, receivers, and coaching working against him. It is a toss up between Allen and NP. And the thing separating them is the schedule. So let the 5th rounder start and let the franchise guy come in when it gets a little safer. And with this O-line, that is questionable. But just know, Allen will start this year. If NP gets past this schedule, then he is the guy, and trade Allen. But with that weak arm of his it won't happen. He will throw picks once they figure out he only has a short game. They will have him figured out quick. Unless the line can block for the run or the pass. And good luck with that thinking.
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10 hours ago, reddogblitz said:
Coach McDermott has said recently that he thinks it's great that AJ brought theBungles back to take the lead late in the playoff game. So yes, I agree that this will be seen as a HUGE positive by Coach McDermott. You can't teach that. Either you got it or you don't. Roger Staubach had it. Hotrod does not for example.
Hilarious! !!!!! So a guy that can't show up against scrubs finally does in the 4th quarter, and he is your guy? He can't get a 1st down against the Browns, who won 1 game in how many years is your starter? Too funny.
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On 5/23/2018 at 6:01 PM, transplantbillsfan said:
Let's be honest... no.
No, I do not only want Allen to start because I'm impatient.
Yes, however, I'll readily admit there's impatience involved here. Forgive me if I'm a little impatient seeing my favorite team go over 20 years without a Franchise QB and if that plays a role here... it does. And I think it naturally should for any Bills fan.
But my impatience is NOT what drives my belief that Allen probably should and probably will start a significant chunk of games this season, if not week #1. What drives that belief for me is that Allen is clearly the more talented QB physically and, more importantly, he has the mental fortitude and work ethic to learn the position while on the field taking live bullets.
You seem to be operating under the assumption that everything is an unknown on offense and that McDermott will and should treat it as such. I think that's pretty naïve considering McDermott actively sought Dabol as his new OC and has a year's worth more familiarity with all of his offensive players who'll contribute this year with the exception of guys we've acquired like Bodine and Ivory.
Dabol is the biggest change for the offense... other than QB, obviously.
But Dabol also have a (very recent) history of being very adaptable in his offense based on who's under center while still running an effective offense. He also said specifically that he has a plan for Allen. Now, maybe that plan is "you're going to sit on the bench the entire year and stay on my hip and learn," but that's not what he thinks he means.
I want Allen to start, in part, because I think Dabol will be very smart about the game plans and playbook and the way he handles Allen. And I think McDermott brought him in because of that.
You're right, we have an offense in transition and we have a new offensive scheme but it's in transition and new scheme for every single player we have on offense, not just Allen. McCarron's going to be learning the new offense, too. His only leg up in this is 4 years he had on the bench behind Dalton (in a different offense from the one we'll be running) and his whopping 3 NFL starts and 133 meaningful pass attempts.
Your mentality clearly is to just throw the vet to the wolves, even if he's not better, because it'll be better for the rookie. I disagree completely, and that has nothing to do with impatience.
This is a new era of the NFL. It's not David Carr's era. Lots of QB-friendly rules. So unless our OL is completely in absolute shambles and they can't protect Allen at all, you make sure you start whoever the better guy is through minicamps, training camp and preseason.
High rookie draft picks typically don't need to sit anymore if they have the right stuff upstairs. Allen might hit a rookie wall if he starts the way Wentz did in his rookie year, but that doesn't mean starting him was a bad choice.
Great post bud. I am from Wyoming and want Josh to start. But even I have concerns. My only real concern is injury after watching the Bengals game. The coaching didn't make me feel very good. I can tell they weren't worried about Allen being fragile though. I wasn't until I saw how poor the line was and how fast they made the game look.
Allen has grown a ton since his last game for Wyoming. I saw it at the Senior Bowl. He grew immensely. And from his 1st exhibition game to his 2nd, great growth. And then his line , his receivers , his defense, his coaching, and himself let him down on his 3rd game. But kick that game out and I am like you, let the learning curve begin. He is a natural that could be close to taking a team like New England or Minnesota to the Super Bowl. He wouldn't have to overcome all the defenciencies of a team like the Bills have. If people on here can't see it, this is not a team built for success. They are in a rebuilding mode. They cut out what they thought were cancers. If they were or not. Or trying to get the team back to where they cut loose guys stopping them from getting back to where they could rebuild financially. It will take time.
But the bottom line is they hooked their wagon to Allen. Now, right or wrong, they have to decide which way to go. I personally don't know which is right. But whatever they decide is what I have to live with. I like your post a lot. And I agree with a lot of the so-called experts. If he is the qb you thought he was, then starting him won't ruin him. And before anyone on here disagrees with me, I ask do you know more about Allen than I do? Have you seen him grow and watch him from week to week, season to season? Met him, been around him in private or public? Watched a good percentage of all of his practices and games? Well I have. I have also been
around his family, his teammates, his situation. So of those who haven't, you don't know this kid. I want to say guy, but have a hard time doing so because I think of him as a kid. But he certainly doesn't act like one on the field. Although he does in person.
Josh isn't some one who will wiłt, even during the Bengals game he was learning. He ate the ball. He didn't throw an interception, he ate it, in more ways than one. The old Josh would have thrown it one way or another. But he learned that quickly from game 1, don't throw it just anywhere. He learned that quickly, unlike Peterman, who threw pick after pick against San Diego last year. Allen is a rookie, but he is learning fast, very fast for a rookie with very little help. But he is used to that, but so many on here and the media jump back and forth so quick. Go back and look how quick you guys jumped on the bandwagon, and how quick you jumped off! Amazing.
11 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:It is going to be AJ McCarron.
And I for one and excited, and it's all about that game he had last night!
If he can add around 100 yards passing to last night's game, keep the same number of passing TD's, double his completion percentage, take 4 fewer sacks, and throw zero interceptions, he will be able to match the performance of the great EJ Manuel!
I almost missed the sarcasm because I am so pissy about the O-line. Lol.
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3 hours ago, billykay said:
I think that we will pick up a LB & an OL or two.
Relax. I think he was being sarcastic.
Slick, that is not even close to the first post he has been "sarcastic" on. Let him answer, or are you his twin?
2 hours ago, SinatraSinger said:Don't you think that if he had this talent that everyone that has posted so far seems to think he does, that the Texans would have kept him?
I can understand your thinking. But how many teams make a mistake on cuts and the guy goes on to prove himself? Different teams, different offenses, different philosophies, etc. ? You could be right, just saying. ...
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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Potential starting QB??? ?
Give up on the hate dude. How about fix the line and give the qbs a chance? You are like that one special poster that lays all the problems on the qbs even though thereally is more to the game of football than that. How do you think New England can just put in option B or C and make it work whenever Brady is unavailable? They have been doing it for years. Can you say they are a sound , balanced team? They took a play out of the old Raiders mentality and pick up vets that have a few more miles left on them.They get castoffs they managed to evaluate to slide into place while they are waiting for players to develop.
Your picking on the qbs gets old. Makes you look like you don't know the game. Just because you post a lot does not mean they are quality posts. Find a different area to post your hate at. Allen is the future and they won't bring in anyone to compete with him. Get used to it.it isn't about wining this year. They know they have more time to prove themselves. They hitched themselves to Allen, and regardless if you like it or not, it isn't changing. So your qb rant is boring, much like your lack of knowledge of the game.
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16 hours ago, RochesterRob said:
You're right and that point was just made recently. The central point I was making was that far more QB's wash out when thrown to the wolves than thrive. The 93 degree temp at present is affecting my memory.
I have a feeling that statement wouldn't change much one way or the other. Either you are a good NFL qb, or you aren't. Sitting wouldn't help 95% of those guys to become qulaity qbs.
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On 8/28/2018 at 2:44 PM, Jauronimo said:
When did I mention McCarron, the Browns, or assign 100% blame to Allen? I want NP to start?!?! That is certainly news to me. Rooting for Allen to fail?!?! This just gets better and better.
Conversations are lot easier when you respond to what I've written rather than go all 'Leave Britney Alone!!!'.
The pot calling the kettle black. You have a whaked way of seeing what goes on during a preseason. Next thing ya know you will say Obama is still El presidente. If ya can't beat em' , baffle them with bull$#'!. Nice try though.
On 8/28/2018 at 7:34 AM, HappyDays said:His footwork has improved a lot since college but that throw was a definitely the Wyoming Josh Allen rearing its ugly head again. I think he was nervous and with everything going so poorly he started to panic. Maybe it's good he got that out of his system now. Next time he's on the field they need to throw in some easy completions to build his confidence. Preferably to someone other than Clay.
On one play he should have planted his feet. The rest of the throws you are talking about he didn't have time. Did you really want him to try and take the time to set his feet, the lack of time he had? Half kidding, half not.
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22 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
The announcers most certainly did not say every sack was a coverage sack. Are you really telling me that there were NO open receivers all half? That's gotta be an NFL record.
He played mostly out of the gun all game too. The game was in front of him. Its not like he finished his drop and had free rushers in his face. 4 out of 5 sacks were in shotgun formation.
Allen threw for 34 yards and was sacked for 39 lost yards. That's negative 5 yards passing for you math wizards and advanced stats guys. I'd like to write it off entirely on poor line play but its the worst half of QB play I've witnessed since our likely starter tossed 5 INTs against the Bolts.
You need to watch more games slick. So McCarron gets a pass for his crappy game because he got hurt? An if you couldn't tell, the Bengals defense was quicker and better than the Browns. By a far shot. And you didn't read about the coach experimenting with linemen and play calling? It is obvious there was blame to go around, I say 1/3 of it was Allens. You blame it all on Allen like a hater would. Wait and watch when Peterman starts the 1st game. If the offense doesn't play better he goes down in flames like the other 2 qbs did. Why is it you can't see the big picture? I think Allen is the best qb, but would rather see NP get the start. NP has played well, but he isn't the answer. It is bad enough the national press goes after Allen, but when our own uneducated or biased fan base overlooks what happened with our offense in the Bengal game to justify their own wants, I can't support them as real fans to want our new qb to fail.
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6 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
This is just people trying to be right.
Week One of Preseason it was McCarron's job because he the steady veteran. He could execute the offense. And the Coaches agreed with that in their actions. McCarron got first team reps until he was injured. Peterman had not stood out in Training Camp, but he put up a high completion percentage in the Carolina game. Allen played to his Scouting Report, some flashes, some inaccurate throws.
Week Two of Preseason, McCarron stunk up the joint (under heavy pressure) and Allen came in and "looked good". So then the narrative shifted to well we might as well start Allen and get the show on the road. Peterman got third string snaps, nobody was pushing for him.
Week Three of Preseason, Allen looks terrible (under heavy pressure) and Peterman again moves the offense against the subs, and so now the narrative according to Bills fans is Peterman gives us the best chance to win.
I think this is Bills fans reacting week to week. Swerving all over the road. Now we see threads that say Peterman was the plan the entire time. No he wasn't. Coaches gave Allen the first crack at first teams reps this week. He has outlasted McCarron (injured) and has the last best performance in a preseason game over Allen and so now Bills fans rush to Peterman is the answer.
We don't want to "ruin" Allen.
Peterman has played <2 real games and has 6 interceptions (5 in LA and immediately in the Jacksonville game).
So my hunch is Peterman gets the start, like most fans want, and when this thing becomes a pop-gun offense after 3 weeks, the calls will start coming for Allen. Like sitting for 3 weeks was the ultimate learning difference.
Great post.
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4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Nah, broski. I don't watch the games ever cuz I'm 2 busy in high level meetings.
Are you a parody account, because you absolutely nailed every TBD mouth breather talking point and false choice possible in one abortion of a post.
Thats time till contact listed above. I watched a had few more tenths of sec on each.
There are other options outside of taking sacks and throwing INTs. Also, you don't know what coverage was either. Are you telling me the other 3 were coverage sacks? See how that works both ways? #ThinkALittleMorePostALotLess
You're going to be a sensation here, I can tell. I look forward to working with you for next 3-4 weeks.
Did you not listen to the announcers? They said they were coverage sacks. Now that was easy. And others on here said we were running intermediate to long pass patterns and there was no time for checkdowns because the backs and tight ends had to stay in and block. Any other exiting news I don't know about? Last game the coaching staff worked on Allens short game, not this game according to different sources. But they let Peterman take what the D was giving him and ran the short game for the most part.
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32 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
it's pre season. NO team is going to show it's scheme in pre season.
Really? So Cincinnati scored that easily on us with a basic scheme? And you know this about Cincinnati how? Supposedly the defenses are supposed to be vanilla also, but they aren't. How do you explain that away? Cleveland was throwing all sorts of stunts at our qb's. Cincinnati didn't have to, we just sucked that bad.
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7 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
it's called observing. it's pre season.
It is obviously preseason for the posters to not have a clue and can spout off anything they want and not be held accountable.
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Just now, reddogblitz said:
what about the other 3?
some he had ZERO time and some he held onto it too long. Even the man Himself said so.
If you know anything about Josh Allen you will know he never throws anyone under the bus. He is a stand up guy. 3 of the sacks were not even close to being his fault. And you don't know what the coverage or the patterns of the plays where he was sacked. You are just ranting.
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12 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Yes, the yardage lost on the sacks he took eclipsed his passing yardage in the first half. Is someone else to blame for his 5 first half sacks?
Are you for real? Did you actually watch the game? Do you understand the basics of blocking?
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4 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
You don't get to blame blocking when you hold the ball for 3+ seconds every down.
Do you actually watch the games before you comment on them? There was hardly 2 seconds gone by on three of those sacks. Learn to count please. Plus you don't see what route the receivers were running, or if they were covered. So just chuck the ball like NP did against San Diego last year? Think a little.
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59 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
Towards the beginning of the video; that 2nd and 13 play on like our 10 yard line...
He ran to his right and threw on the run. His footwork was horrible. His man had his defender beat, initially, by at least 5 yards. Had the ball been thrown high and hard so the WR could run under the ball, it would have been like a 90 yard TD play, unless the DB has enormous speed and could run the WR down.
Instead, despite his killer arm, the ball was horribly under thrown and would have been an INT probably 8 out of 10 times, but the DB dropped the ball despite it hitting him square in his chest/hands.
The immediately next play Allen fires a 100mph fastball in a seam between coverage but throws too high and it goes over the under D, the over D, and the Bills receiver in the middle of the sandwich.
This is all stuff Allen has been doing all along.
The OL was not an issue on either of these plays.
3 out of the 5 sacks would have happened to any qb. The penalties took away from any rythem the offense could muster. The dropped balls added insult to injury. The offensive personell should have been notified that they were still fighting to be starters. Maybe that would have lit a fire under their butt. Allen didn't play well, but sure didn't get any help either. Some veterans should have stepped up and chewed some ass on the lack of effort.
Go get Tanner Gentry
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Gentry was Trubisky's favorite target in camp. And Hollister has been with New England for 2 years and contributed in preseason this year. Had 2 TD''s called back. Not sure they would be stars by any means, but they couldn't hurt the Bills, that's for sure.