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4 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:
why are so many getting upset over what is obviously set to happen? Why say Gm's and coaches are getting fired (they wont and will be here for a long time) all over a near talent-less offense that obviously isn't going to get over on anyone? This year became a JA and other young players (Edmunds) development year and that's all that matters.
Finally someone got it right. Thank you.
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7 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:
I have quite a few matter of fact..... Unfortunately we are currently in a little bit of a dark ages era......and we are making it way worse than it should be so sorry if i'm calling the team out on s#ot that shouldn't be happening
You are starting to sound like Peterdude and 23cb, I am getting worried about you. Lol.
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1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said:
Maybe all those designed rollout passes he throws at the recievers shoelaces has him concerned. Not a good sign and something that has nothing to do with expirience.......... JP Loserman flashbacks?????
Have you ever put out a positive post on here? I didn't think so.
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38 minutes ago, PeterDude said:
It gets worse, they picked Allen. This team won't be any good, anytime soon...
And another Allen post. Did he turn you down for a date?
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20 minutes ago, PeterDude said:
News flash, Josh Allen will still be struggling at the end of next season.
Peterdude with yet another Josh Allen bash. How about talking real football for a change. You are like a broken record. Do you know what real football is? I would love to see how eaten up your guts are every time Allen scores. I bet it damn near puts you in the hospital. I can't wait until he gets some experience and playmakers. I will stop by to piss on your gravesite, as I think you would commit hari kari. Lol.
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On 10/16/2018 at 9:27 PM, transplantbillsfan said:
This was going to be about slow growth.
We all knew that.
This team has already seemed to exceed expectations in a lot of ways nationally and I think if Allen finished that game, we'd be 3-3 and that would have made absolutely anyone happy at this point based on the schedule.
My biggest disappointment has been Daboll. I think there's a way to properly develop a QB while still allowing him to throw, primarily quick timing patterns and play action bombs. Other than the Minnesota game, I think Daboll has done a poor job there.
But I'm also okay with Josh taking a seat for the next month or so. I think he can learn for a bit from Anderson while on the bench.
But yeah, I don't get the folks thinking he was supposed to look like a HOFer right away.
Good post.
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4 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:
He's nowhere near Mayfield and Darnold despite some rough games has generally been pretty good.
Allen has been atrocious save for the Minnesota game. He is exactly what the scouting reports said. Scattershot with limited pocket awareness. Good athlete, bad quarterback.
Playing Jauron ball will eventually get McDermott terminated.
I don't know what kind of leash management has him on. But I do know that is the only way they will win with the offensive personnel they have. If anything should get him fired is not having a better read on host offensive side of the ball. And I don't think he should be fired, as his defense is put together on a budget and performing well.
1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:Spewing nonsense compared to your hate filled diatribe week after week? Give me a break.
seems insulting from my end.
Bang and I don’t always agree but he’s usually not one to spew crap out there.
He has been against Allen from day one.
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Unknowing? What the heck are you even talking about with this rambling? All I need to do is watch him and the others play. He started the season behind and he still is. I wish he hadn't gotten injured so because he needs game experience. Your long post isn't telling me anything I don't already know with regard to the supporting cast. I hope he gets back soon.
So if you know about his supporting cast, why do you overlook it when you evaluate him? Why don't you actually give him credit in your hate? And if you know football like you claim, why can't you see that they are using him to manage games? Not developing him? And why aren't they trying to bring in offensive help? If he had the same weapons as the other rookies I would bet he develops faster. Yet you never bring any of this up as you just want to hammer on him. To claim different is a huge lie.
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25 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:
Well, TT got run out of 2 towns so he has to talk about something.
That is exactly what 26 is doing, making it his duty to cut on Allen. Could it be more obvious. The hard part about Allen is his growth will be slowed because the defense can keep the team in games. So as long as the score is close, they will eat up clock and shorten the game. Then try and win it in a close one. Allen will be asked to manage the game, not throw for 300 yards.
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20 minutes ago, Luka said:
What do you think the success rate is of QBs from college to pros? How many drafted/brought into camp compared to how many actually succeed? And then how many succeed at a high level? Some of the greatest QBs weren't even drafted. It's a crap shoot. If you're going to have a QB that fails, at least put your money on the guy that could be truly great if it all comes together for him. Allen is that guy. They all have trouble processing defenses, making reads, keeping their eyes up under pressure, etc. right now. It's called being a rookie QB in the NFL.
Good and accurate post Luka.
28 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:1) google it.
2) the all 22 shows the whole field.
3) hate filled? Have you read any Peterman threads?
4) If you don’t like a post, there is no reason to post insults.
I don't see where my post insults any more than his does. I don't get the 22 show. And Peterman has proven to be a practice player, like I said at the beginning of the year. I don't post negative about NP, as he has enough problems. If you are worried about the Bills percentage, you can Google it also. I suggested the percentage of drops wasn't being portrayed correctly. I don't care if anyone looks it up. I am pretty sure it will eviscerate Allen. The media would have pointed it out if they could get more proof against Allen as it gets readers. Not that I actually think they hate him. It is all about readership or viewers.
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On 10/16/2018 at 7:41 AM, ShadyBillsFan said:
wait so our guys don't drop the most balls?
who'd have thunk it?
I wonder what the precentage of dropped passes are? Seeing as Allen throws less passes in a game, that could tell the real story. Anyone can make numbers work for them.
10 minutes ago, Bangarang said:All-22 shows every player on the field. You might want to get better informed before spewing nonsense.
Spewing nonsense compared to your hate filled diatribe week after week? Give me a break.
27 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:I have eyes and actually watch him play. You can play cheerleader.
I guess it all depends what part of the bandwagon you are riding that particular week. You don't sound like much of a Bills fan to me. Fans actually root for the team on the field. That includes players.
On 10/16/2018 at 7:42 AM, thebandit27 said:I mean, read this review of Goff's rookie season:
It reads like a word-for-word write up of Allen through 6 games.
Quit it, you are making sense.
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On 10/16/2018 at 7:10 AM, Scorp83 said:
I disagree with this whole post... he's shell shocked, escapes the pocket way too early, he has 166 passing the last 2 weeks combined, he doesn't throw to open WR's... granted the WR's are crap... but Zay is open almost all the time...
He's so Raw & is behind the QB's in the 1st Rd... except Jackson & that's only because he has Flacco in front of him. PPF has Allen rated as the worst QB under pressure.
This is why I didnt want to draft him, because he's a project. McBeane is a joke right now, because they didn't have a plan after drafting the QB that needs the most work.
They fell in love with Allen personality, more so then his readiness to play in this league.
To sit here & try to compare Allen to the rest of this QB class is laughable in itself.
He's not ready for this league, & I think McBeane just figured that out... which is why he's "Week to Week" & Allen wants a second opinion...
Ughhh take the hint kid, your bench... i feel like McBeane just didn't want to hurt the kid feelings.
Hurt his feeing? Lol. And you know Zay is open how? We're you at the games? Because on the TV they mostly don't show the receivers. And hardly show replays. So you can tell how? I think you make up crap.
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On 10/16/2018 at 6:48 AM, PearlHowardman said:
Carried over from his college playing days. In another word: Trend! And trends seldom change.
Especially the trend of you knocking Allen.
10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:Unknowing? What the heck are you even talking about with this rambling? All I need to do is watch him and the others play. He started the season behind and he still is. I wish he hadn't gotten injured so because he needs game experience. Your long post isn't telling me anything I don't already know with regard to the supporting cast. I hope he gets back soon.
Keep jumping on and off the bandwagon. Watch it or you might wear out your keyboard. Typical fan who follows the media and can't think for themselves.
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On 10/16/2018 at 5:25 AM, 26CornerBlitz said:
Your eyeballs need adjustment. Allen looks lost out there all too often. By any objective measure he's behind.
I think you are the one who doesn't know qbs or the game of football. Why are you switching camps so often? The only person you are fooling is yourself. Daboll isn't doing Allen any favors by making him throw short and predictable throws. I saw this at Wyoming in Allens last season, and it is a way to win games. It is not a way to develop a qb. So unknowing fans like yourself have to decide if you want wins, or develop a qb at fairly decent clip.
All the other writers / media out there are talking about how the rookie qbs have no receivers, offensive line, or overall general help when reading about their problems. And before Darnold finally started playing better, a lot of the media were claiming him to be the worst out of the four. Why people on this board started forgetting about Allen having no line and no tools work with is beyond me. Nothing has changed, especially the agenda. Most of the Allen haters on here are not good Bills fans . They are mostly happy to just be on here complaining. And the far fetched theories they come up with are sad to say the least. Allen and the rest are rookies. And very few rookis get it right the first year. And watching the media and fans praise them one week like the next coming , and the following week proclaim they should never have even got drafted is comical. You all need to settle down and look at the big picture. There will be ups and downs. They have all shown it up to this point. The sample size and coaching / play calling has all been different. Same goes by the talent they are surrounded by . So no possible way you can get a fair or clear understanding from it. Or even decent feedback from it. I like to read what present and past players and staff from the Bills have to say about Allen. They usually have insider knowledge, unlike posters like yourself and the media go by.
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On 10/7/2018 at 3:47 PM, DougFlutie7 said:
Allen is pretty brutal too. Doesn’t throw as many picks as Peterman but he’s still terrible. But it’s no shocker, he was terrible in college, in THE MOUTAIN WEST.
Why do you have no clue about Allen at Wyoming? He had two 8 win seasons and in his first year got a crappy Wyoming team to the conference championship. If you knew anything about the offense they made him run or how bad the OC was, you might begin to have a clue. But obviously you don't. Wyoming doesn't get 8 win seasons but once every 20 years. The kid is a winner, bottom line.
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10 hours ago, Mat68 said:
In an Offensive league if Allen doesn't show progress and Buffalo flounders down the stretch it would be a possibility. Likely? Probably not but who saw John Fox, Lovie Smith, or Jeff Fisher being blown out for similar performances and outcomes?
They all coached for more than 2 years. Buffalo fans can be some big time alarmists. You would think we were supposed to be in the Super Bowl this year. We are 1 game out of first place. Crying wolf
7 hours ago, Trogdor said:Minnesota was stout last year, now they're porous. Shady and Ivory are the only reason that last drive worked. He had Tyrod numbers and that's not a good sign.
To be ignored by the starter? Maybe not the best example if you mean mentoring. He needs a full time QB coach to work on his footwork.
At this point if you traded Allen, you would be doing him a big favor. Foles isn't winning with a team like Philly. How would he win with this crap offense? Get a clue please.
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On 10/9/2018 at 8:55 AM, BillsFan17 said:
I truly enjoy the hyperbole that other QBs would look the same if not worse in our offense.
1) Baker Mayfield is playing on arguably the worst team in NFL history who have Landry and a bunch of young unproven talent.
2) Sam Darnold was traded up for, but the Jets still finished with the sixth overall pick. They are not a quality team and Sam is playing extremely well for them.
3) Josh Rosen is on a team many have felt were worse than the Bills, and yet is playing very good ball.
Great research. Nice agenda. You hide it well. NOT!
On 10/9/2018 at 9:14 AM, DCOrange said:I think it's pretty much a certainty that Lamar is taking passing reps in practice. He hasn't had an opportunity to show it in live games yet, but in terms of footwork, I think Allen presently has more issues than Lamar does (Lamar has his own as well to be sure though).
You are guessing about Lamar and you know it. Maybe try and get your media credentials. Lol.
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On 10/8/2018 at 2:32 AM, kbarrettb said:
English hard?
Nice comeback professor. Maybe know more about football than you do English. Because your knowledge of football is pretty poor. I do have to hand it to you, you do put out some ignorant posts.
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On 10/9/2018 at 10:32 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said:
So where is famed QB coach Dave Culley? Is he around?
See here's what's ticking me off. Watching Mahomes, he comes off the field, there's Andy Freakin' Reid right with him. Now maybe that's a bad thing - maybe Reid ought to be minding the overall HC store and mixing it in more with the D and the ST. But the message is clear: "Mahomes, I'll do anything to help you and your development is my priority as your HC".
This is with 4 top-notch receiving targets + Hunt who are running decent and consistent routes and a decent OL.
I feel they could have (within their cap constraints) done more to upgrade the OL and WR. Blahblah cap blahblah takes time. Excuses. But let's take them at face value - you can't even give Josh a sideline mentor who can help steady him? It's like all they want to give Allen is a pair of cleats and a cape, then send him out post-game to take it on himself if he can't fly all the time. I'll put it out there for those who don't remember, I was NOT in Camp Allen pre draft and I still see much cause for skepticism between the bright spots. But he's our QB now, and I want to see him given the absolute best shot to succeed, not treated like a dingleberry.
Going back to the OP's premise, I think Allen is performing exactly as the pre-draft evaluation said he would likely perform, and the correct emotion for Beane and McDermott to experience with regard to Allen right now ought to be "shame"
There's a reason why McDermott and Dennison and Daboll all love them some Peterman, and it's not because he doesn't understand the plays and the options theoretically.
I have wanted to question the handling of Allen myself, but I didn't want to be a homer. I figure he didn't get much help at Wyoming either, so maybe coaches think he can just figure it out. I really don't know. And I don't know much about the pro part as to how much help they get. Some on here kept pointing out how Daboll followed him around in camp, like he was getting treated special. So I thought pros were just supposed to adapt.
I will say they are making him look stupid and that he doesn't know how too throw vertical. We saw earlier in the year the kinds of throws he can make. I think they are doing more damage at times with the too conservative play calling. Why they don't grab a few receivers on a 1 year contract is beyond me. I wouldn't be suprised if they traded Shady to deplete the offense even more. I think they don't care about this year. Winning is just a bonus.
When I watch his receivers I see them taking plays off, jogging through their patterns if it looks like they aren't the intended receivers. And won't even get into the drops. It seems the announcers are on his side when he is winning, and flip very quickly if he starts to lose in a game. The media are mostly negative, and grudgingly give him kudos.
On 10/9/2018 at 4:58 PM, PetermanThrew5Picks said:Just watch the other games man. I ain't saying he's better than Josh Allen. I'm saying he's playing with the best supporting caste he can, as is Allen. Shocker.
At least Rosen has a true #1 and 2 receiver to get open. Allen doesn't even have that.
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21 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:
Allen is statistically the worst QB in the NFL among active starters.
Allen statistically has the most wins of the rookie qb's. Tied, same thing. If you r trying to prove you are an Allen hater, Message received. I just hope all that negativity doesn't eat at you and you can't enjoy the progression of Allen and the team. When it comes down to it Allen just wins . He has won at every level. It may not be the prettiest, but he wins. In his first full year at Wyoming he got them into the conference championship. Say whatever pops into your noggin, but he will end up proving you wrong. I love it.
13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:So question for you, esp if you were at the games: where is Peterman in all this? And for that matter, where is QB coach Culley? Everyone raves about how totes marvelous Peterman's personality is, but I don't think I've seen him coming up to Josh and offering tea and sympathy much less input.
It just seems as though it's Allen and his headphones and tablet.
I agree with you Hapless, Allen sits by himself with his tablet. I didn't think about Peterman not being in the picture. Good catch.
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13 hours ago, Gray Beard said:
The great QBs are always studying formations on the side. Brady and Peyton immediately come to mind. They usually have an assistant helping to provide photos or screenshots of recent plays. I often find it odd when I see a QB just sitting there. Is he mentally putting himself in a good place, or is he just missing out on an opportunity to learn? It seems like a QB coach or some other assistant should be going over things with him.
By the way, when the OP starts with “With Allen looking as bad as he does...” ...that’s not a diplomatic way to start an intelligent debate. That’s a man on a mission.
When I saw Josh on the sidelines, it looked like he had a tablet going over something with someone because he had his headphones on and was talking back to someone. I imagine it was Daboll, and they were watching the last series or what they were going to do next to counter the defense. Just guessing on my part. But I agree, the more help the better.
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On 10/7/2018 at 7:03 PM, Jpsredemption said:
With Allen looking as bad as he does, even though these two did absolutely nothing offensively to help his cause, McD and Beane must be in panic mode (Derek Anderson, really?).
Not only do you have to rebuild an entire offense but your prized QB is beyond terrible. Maybe if they would have listened to the overwhelming majority of pundits they wouldn't have traded all their draft capital for a guy with suspect accuracy and pocket awareness. Couple this with underachieving at Wyoming and I'm not really sure why he was ever a consideration in the first round to begin with.
If its me..and trust me I know this will not happen.. I am very seriously considering a QB with my top 10 pick next year if there isn't any progression. I know everyone wants to give it time but how often is a QB utterly awful only to turn it around and become great these days (Goff seems to be the exception to the rule - not ready to anoint Trubisky).
So I'd be kicking my self in the rear if I were these guys. I gave up (2) crucial 2nd round picks that could have been used to bolster my roster even further and probably could have done so and skill gotten Josh Rosen had I stayed put.
So go ahead and tell me it's too early. Some of us know when things are going to end poorly (EJ Manuel). My advice to Beane and McD is think long and hard this offseason and don't be blinded by reality...you're jobs may depend on it.
.Actually do your homework and see what the Wyoming story really is instead of hearing it second hand. And please don't claim you know anything about his college experience. There were a lot of experts saying he would go in the top 10. So are you an expert now? Even Baker Mayfield said he figured it would come down to Allen or him as the number 1 pick. It amazes me how anyone with a smart phone can become an expert on everything and anything. Did you want to be an astronaut as a kid? Just curious.
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17 hours ago, Domdab99 said:
I actually agree with you on this some....Allen is amazingly confident, and maybe he's just happy to win. But I'm sure it also bothered him a little bit that the game wasn't put on his shoulders - like you would expect every QB in the league to do.
But yes, he's incredibly poised and I love that about him.
Allen wasn't bothered by that. I watched the coaches at Wyoming make a potential 1st pick in the draft, hand the ball off all day long. I was so pissed off at how they used Josh last year. Here is a guy who has this great arm reduced to handing the ball off because the coaches only cared that they could become bowl eligible. He had a horrible cast around him and he was the leading rusher on the team. The staff at Wyoming did a disservice to Josh by not molding the offense around his talent. Instead used him like a QB in an option type offense. They called it a Pro set, but in name only.
The offense they have installed at Wyoming is in the mold of a jr. high team. No sophistication in the pass patterns at all. The OC was predictable to the point that the other teams defense stacked the line with an 8 man front. They ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down and passed on 3rd. On 3rd down the defense blitzed every time. Our Oline was horrid, starting 3 freshman in year 4 of the coaching staff. Woody Hayes would have been proud of this team, 2 yards and a cloud of dust.
What Allen did in 2016 is more of what he can be going forward.. He actually had a few players around him that could make some plays. I would put his receivers that year up against what he is throwing to this year. If you look at the Wyoming offense in the 5 years Bohl and Vigen have been there, they have been near the bottom of the FBS offensive stats every year except 2016. The staff at Wyoming has not adapted from the FCS to the FBS, even though they won 3 straight FCS titles at North Dakota State before coming to Wyoming. Josh took those two Wyoming teams on his back and carried them to 8 win seasons. It was actually quite an accomplishment. Allen is used to winning ugly. The game against Tennessee was right up his alley. The reason he was so calm is he does that stuff all the time. It might not be pretty enough for some on this board, but all Allen cares about is the win, not his stats. If he can survive the Wyoming staff, he will thrive with a decent staff. Sorry about the long post.
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4 hours ago, kbarrettb said:
What positive did he have today? I said positive he’s a better runner than he is a qb. He didn’t do anything positive throwing the ball today
And that tells me up know very little about football. They wanted Allen to stay within himself. He did what they asked. Get over it. You are like a brouen record. Did your woman leave you or something?
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