Aussie Joe
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1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:
I dunno … Randy Mueller knows far more than you or I do. He literally has 35 years of NFL experience in draft rooms. You and are just message board dorks whose knowledge is all second or third hand.
No one here knows anything …. But a couple of people have some very strong opinions…-
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23 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I don't know how the Bills see him, I'm just saying what my strategy would be. I see a lot of Bills fans and content creators saying we have to come away with an edge rusher by the end of the 2nd round because it's a clear weakness on the team. But the draft class is what it is. People talk themselves into a Marshawn Kneeland because there just aren't many options.
I think a lot of people have the concept of a deep or not deep class backwards. People say WRs are deep, edge rushers aren't, therefore we should take an edge rusher early and wait on WR. That's the wrong mindset. A deep WR class means that at any one of our picks there is likely to be a WR who matches the value of the pick, and the exact inverse for edge rushers. Choosing to take an edge rusher early in this draft means you're probably passing on a better talent just to fill a perceived need. I would rather skip the position entirely than make that mistake and regret it later, like when we stupidly traded up for Cody Ford instead of DK Metcalf.
Well… I have got a different strategy as I have outlined already in the thread ..I don’t think we are as far apart as you might think… I want 2 WR and a DE in the top 60-70 … I don’t see taking a DE in the third as a large as an investment as you do obviously…
It’s probably a moot point anyway as I see Kneeland being talked up now by the likes of Kiper and Brugler who have got him going in the Top 50 … too rich for my blood
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14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
The way I see it is everyone knows it's a weak EDGE class. So I'm just accepting this year our EDGE group will not be a strength of the team. And that's fine. The way to solve that problem isn't by reaching for mediocre talents in the top 75 out of desperation. We solve that problem by trying to build an offense that can simply outpace everybody. We hope that Rousseau takes a big step and Von Miller looks even 50% of what he did in 2022. I would rather bet on that and invest in the offensive weapons than reach for say Marshawn Kneeland at #60 because of a perceived drop off after him. Go all in on the positions that are strong in the draft (namely WR and OL) and accept that we won't be dominant at every single position group this season.
The Bills have had him in for a Top 30 visit so they must have some interest in him … so are you saying they view him as a Day 3 option?
I don’t see him lasting that long …and I am suggesting picking Kneeland with their third pick in the third round … which will require some moving around the board considering that pick doesn’t exist yet …whether this is considered a reach or not is opinion at this stage … we will see how the draft and the player subsequently turns out …Hoping that Miller improves concerns me as a strategy …he is 35 and looked terrible last year … he is not even close to being 50 percent of his pre injury level ,,,.but again as I have mentioned … I’m sure they have better information on his progress
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4 hours ago, Beck Water said:
I particularly like this one
It might bring down the regime if Josh starts complaining to Pegs about McD and Beane wasting his prime years .. -
6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Man I'm shocked by how many people see the 49ers extending Purdy as a foregone conclusion. I thought he was by far their biggest weakness in the Super Bowl. He couldn't win one with an elite LT and like 4 elite weapons. What else can they possibly give him to get them over the hump? It would be a monumental mistake to give him a big extension IMO.
Well.. when they tried to pick one giving up multiple firsts it was one of the biggest disasters we have seen in 20 years ..Maybe they should be sticking with what they have based on that effort
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4 minutes ago, julian said:
If they’re ok to move off 60 to move up, they should take the bigger swing and include 28,60 and next years 1st and try to get Rome.
If they truly believe BTJR is a difference maker then ok. This is some big boy decision making on Bean’s plate this offseason, say what you want about Bean but he’s not gonna go down scared and timid.
It’s a two way street … teams don’t necessarily want to move from the Top 10 to 28… or they want more than Beane is prepared to give up-
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5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
Your moving up 8 spots in the first and getting back a 3rd.
I’ve constantly said however Beane has it ranked if there is a large gap in their player rankings at WR such as Thomas than a big gap or whoever their number 5 guy is and 6th guy than make the move.
If they have 4-10 ranked somewhat similarly than by all means pick at 28 or move down
yes .. I can do the maths … Im not saying they aren’t getting value for the move .I don’t think either of us are going to know Beane plans or how they value these guys… I can only offer my opinions and moving up for Thomas expending more draft capital than a fourth is not my preferred option …after comparing him to the 5th and 6th guys who are likely available at the original pick
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8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
Wasn't a coincidence that Buffalo drafted Epenesa and Rousseau. They covet long arms in that position and have a history of drafting for that trait. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Kneeland ends up being a pick.
I think it’s a real possibility that Kneeland could be on their list.. could see him maybe lasting to early/mid third … so would be great if he was the third pick and not the second at that point in the draft -
35 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
From a trade chart perspective it’s actually a slight win for the Bills.
I’m just spitballing as I think they would want Brian Thomas but is he there at 20? I mean small chance. The Dolphins have spent a lot of time with Xavier Worthy so could it be Buffalo trying to move ahead of them for Worthy?
I actually don’t mind giving up 60 because it’s a very dead spot for the Bills when it comes to position of need. Sure you could say Safety but the Bills might be getting just as good a safety in the 3rd/4th as in the 2nd. My grading of safeties isn’t that far apart.
I fully expect DL to be washed by the time 60 roles around and they might be able to get an offensive tackle but goal # 1 is to get a big play WR in this draft.
I agree that 60 isn’t the best spot this year … but I don’t see how trading down helps … they should be looking at trading up and getting another top prospect in this draft …In relation to the first pick …If Brian Thomas costs more than a fourth to move up for ( which means 2-3 spots ) than move on to the next guy …
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9 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Don’t they say this every year?
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2 minutes ago, bearstobills said:
Trading what will end up being a high second in next year's draft for a 3rd in this year's draft does not sound like great business to me.
I guess it depends on what ambitions you have for 2024…. They need to replace Diggs now … not in 2025…Although … Personally I would be using the pick to assist with getting Diggs and Davis replacement prior to the 3rd round …
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2 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
I think Javon Solomon is a strong possibility, in the 4th. Might require a small tradeup but he's someone I think the Bills are interested in.
Looking for a guy to compete as a 4th/5th edge player. Top 3 are locked in and Coohill might be a better fit than I'm expecting, or Jonathan makes a jump.
But I agree, it's not deep at all at Edge in this draft class. If we draft past the 4th round, it's probably competing for the last DE spot. I think if we land Solomon, he could add some pass rush juice sooner than later, but might be limited to mostly pass downs.
To me, ideally we land:
Rd1: Mitchell, Worthy, or Franklin
Rd2: Roke or Maason
Rd3: trade into 3rd (next years pick from Diggs trade) for Kam Kinchens or another safety
Rd4:trade up for Solomon
Use rest of draft on OL, CB, RB. That addresses our major/minor needs. Once we get to the 5th round especially, I see us going RB/CB - two positions where depth roster spots are open. We're fairly set on OL, could always use upgrades but don't see it happening until late.
Im assuming they should have some idea by now whether Miller is going to be improved or not from 2023 …if there are still questions about him then they might have to get a bit more desperate at DE-
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26 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
100% agree and I mentioned that in a post.
Not expecting Floyd production, but 5-7 sacks. Thinking Ogbah is a strong possibility, or a lower chance for Yannick. I'm hopeful we land one of these post June 1st, on top of drafting a DE in the 4th-6th range to compete with Casey Toohill and Kingsley
I’m assuming you are aware that the DE talent come Day 3 is pretty low .. Xavier Thomas and Kamara best of a bad bunch most likely …it’s debatable they are much better than Toohill or Kingsley…Im hoping that they can get a guy in the Top 60-70 along with 2 WR … yes Beane’s will really need to work some magic …
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2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Come on over Michael Thomas, reunite with Brady and Curry.
DT, S and CB are all spots that could be talked about on Day 1 or Day 2. As depth on each of them is questionable.
What about Sutton ? I think they could get it done for like a fifth round …I think the depth at DE is the shortest of any position … there are S and CB I like into rounds 4-5
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3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
Well then we are screwed. I can't see beane dumping a huge contract just to add another one this year.
They dumped Diggs because he was a cancer … what he got paid is irrelevant-
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Just now, MasterStrategist said:
Not true.
By the time rookie salary replaces existing player in top 51, we'd only be adding approx $2.5-3.0m. That's a ballpark estimate, but it won't be much higher than that. We already have that in available cap room.
We will need some the Tre money for Practice Squad/signings throughout the year onto roster.
But we should effectively have $5m or so to spend in FA, post June 1st. They could easily sign a 1yr deal with added voided years to fit a "Leonard Floyd" type for that. Just like LY.
I wouldn’t be relying on finding a post June 1 Leonard Floyd signing again … you can sign a guy but does mean it will work out as well as Floyd did ..DE is a very much a need … given the scheme rotation requirements and the question mark over Miller … Maybe not quite as big as WR …
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Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:
Wow. I like Kincaid, Samuel and Shakir and don't feel they are ****. I also think a 1st or 2nd round WR won't be **** either.
It won’t be enough-
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1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
It depends. What does Joe Brady have to say about his scheme? And it's time for Josh to make his WR's better.
Buy who knows what Beane is thinking.
You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken you know what-
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5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
I don't think the Bills dumped a big contract to sign up for another. Probably looking to get cheaper at the position.
To be going into this season paying their most expensive receiver $8m is crazy … if this is the plan… they better hit on two big names in the draft …Picking a guy at 28 and the fourth round isn’t good enough in my view
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There are a couple of names on that list I could get behind … but until the Bills free up some cap space I’ll keep the powder dry …
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I will say this .., at the start of Day 3 of the draft … there will likely be a lot of players left that people here will still be very keen on the Bills drafting …
Probably they will be mostly gone by end of Round 5 ..: which to me seems like a pretty typical year
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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:
Can't wait for the board to lose its collective mind if we trade up for this guy....
Do it … if it doesn’t require more than a fourth to trade up-
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52 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
We actually moved up two picks here. This gives us an idea of what is available at 60. If we wait on a WR it’s like polk, Tez Walker and Roman Wilson left. If up wait for OL, DL whatever, it’s pretty slim. This is a weak draft.
I have said before that the draft is weak at the end of the second …. Polk might be ok here …not the other two at 60…I’m a fan for a move up from 60 way more than 28..
I actually think there is good value in rounds 4-5 at OL, S ,CB, RB…
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If these were the actual choices on the day I would not be happy …
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Randy Mueller - maybe only ~150 draftable players this year
in The Stadium Wall
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Ok …interesting ….that could be helpful for getting some info on some players at those schools …
Do you have any knowledge about Garret Greenfield from South Dakota State?
Possible mid Day 3 pick for the Bills maybe?