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  1. 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    That is still the better play IMO.

    Well, you might, could, talk me into one of the other 2 top rated MLB's. Nah, who am I kidding 😄, Ima stick with my first choice. 😁

  2. 45 minutes ago, Locomark said:

    Jack Campbell. Just what we need is another 5 years of not being able to cover tight ends and crossers by putting a non cover guy in space. It’s Poz part II, a tackler who will get eaten alive by the athletes in this division. 

    Well, we could take a coverage lb, and see what happens when we face the likes of RB's Stevenson, Jacobs, Pollard, Mostert, Hall and Pacheco this season. Sure hope our DL is up for the task.😁

  3. 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

    Okay here is version 2.0..... post free-agency some pieces have moved. I normally try and throw a trade or two in this one but struggled to find trades I liked enough to make happen. Anyway... flame away!!!

     

    1.      Carolina Panthers – Bryce Young, Quarterback, Alabama

    I don’t buy that the Panthers moved up to #1 before they had made a decision on a Quarterback. You don’t make that trade thinking you “might” like one of two guys, you make that move up when you have identified a Quarterback who can be the face of the franchise. I believe Bryce Young is the best in the class, and I suspect that is where Carolina has landed.

     

    2.      Houston Texans – CJ Stroud, Quarterback, Ohio State

    If Young is off the board I don’t think it is an absolute lock that the Texans go Quarterback. If someone wanted to trade up and give them a boatload of picks I think they’d listen, but ultimately I suspect they end up deciding that this is the last of their years drafting in the top 5 and so need to take a shot on Stroud as the man to execute their new Shanahan style offense.

     

    3.      Arizona Cardinals – Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama

    This is also a prime trade up spot if a team wants to jump Indianapolis for a Quarterback, but from the rumours I’m hearing the Cardinals want one of Anderson or Tyree Wilson and are not willing to move back so far that both are out of reach. Anderson is the safer of the two and I expect him to be the first non-QB off the board if Arizona stays at #3.

     

    4.      Indianapolis Colts – Anthony Richardson, Quarterback, Florida

    In version 1.0 I had Will Levis at this spot but that was before the Colts hired Shane Steichen as their head coach. Having seen the success he had in Philadelphia coordinating a multiple offense with a dual threat Quarterback they might feel comfortable swinging for the fences on the raw potential of Anthony Richardson.

     

    5.      Seattle Seahawks – Jalen Carter, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

    I have never bought the “Carter sliding out of the top 10” buzz. I get the character concerns but this draft just isn’t strong enough to let a player of his talent slide. Pete Carroll has never shied away from taking on talented guys with off-field baggage and they have a huge need on their defensive interior.

     

    6.      Detroit Lions – Devon Witherspoon, Corner, Illinois

    The trading away of Jeff Okudah makes it even more likely that the Lions are targeting the best corner in the class at #6. From what I read who that is depends on which team you ask with Witherspoon, Gonzalez and Porter all being ranked #1 on some boards. But the rumour mill is attaching Witherspoon to the Lions most frequently so he is the pick.

     

    7.      Las Vegas Raiders – Peter Skoronski, Offensive Tackle, Northwestern

    In the event that the Raiders don’t go Quarterback they are in prime position to address needs on the offensive line or at corner. Knowing that they are hitching their wagon to the injury prone Jimmy Garoppolo at Quarterback I expect protection is the order of the day at #7, especially as the cornerback depth in round 2 is stronger than the offensive line depth. Skoronski could start immediately at right tackle or inside at guard.

     

    8.      Atlanta Falcons – Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech

    The Falcons pass rush has been a disaster for a while now. I thought they should have addressed it in the top 10 last year when they reached for Drake London, they can’t ignore it again. Wilson is a freak and he reminds me of Marcus Davenport who the Saints traded way up to acquire when new Falcons defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen was their defensive line coach.

     

    9.      Chicago Bears – Paris Johnson Jnr, Offensive Tackle, Ohio State

    The Bears could happily trade back from #1 to #9 because they have needs basically everywhere. Johnson is the best tackle in this class and plugging him in at left tackle in front of former Buckeyes teammate Justin Fields as the Quarterback heads into a critical year 3 is a major upgrade on the blindside.

     

    10.   Philadelphia Eagles – Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa

    The Eagles don’t have a lot of immediate needs but they do have a future need at edge. Former first round pick Derek Barnett is a free agent after this coming season, Brandon Graham is about to turn 36 and Josh Sweat is a nice player but not a true #1 rusher. Van Ness is more potential than production at this stage but he feels like a fit both in terms of physical profile and character.

     

    11.   Tennessee Titans – Broderick Jones, Offensive Tackle, Georgia

    The Titans are either going offensive line or wide receiver at this spot. I know they signed Andre Dillard as a free agent but he has been a career backup despite being a former first round pick of the Eagles and he can play inside at guard too. If the chance to land one of the premier tackles presents itself that is the direction I think they should go.

     

    12.   Houston Texans – Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

    The current consensus is moving towards Smith-Njigba being the first receiver drafted and that is understandable. In a draft class with very few sure things he has a high floor and at the very least should be a productive player from the slot. I’m sure the Texans would love to use him as a move receiver lining up all over the formation in their new offense.

     

    13.   New York Jets – Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson  

    The Jets edge position has already seen a ton of resources during the Robert Salah era but whether it has been injuries, disappointing production, or clunky scheme fits they still haven’t nailed it. When Saleh was in San Francisco they continued to pour resources into the defensive line until they got it right and with the offensive line guys off the board that is what I could see the Jets doing.

     

    14.   New England Patriots – Zay Flowers, Wide Receiver, Boston College

    Part of me thinks Bill Belichick is just trolling us all but I am going to take the bait with regards to the Patriots love affair with Flowers. Allegedly they spent his top 30 visit teaching him the entire offense, he does have quick twitch acceleration which is a need, and he comes from a non-football powerhouse school in the north-east. A lot of the pieces fit.

     

    15.   Green Bay Packers – Brian Branch, Safety, Alabama

    Someone who is quite plugged into Green Bay told me recently that if Skoronski is still on the board he is the Packers’ guy. The bad news for them is I don’t think he will be. I do think Tight End is in play here but Dalton Kincaid isn’t a complete tight end, doesn’t block and as such doesn’t really fit their offense. When in doubt with the Packers pick a defensive back and they do have a hole at safety that Branch could fill.

     

    16.   Washington Commanders – Will Levis, Quarterback, Kentucky

    Maybe the Commanders really will go into a season with Sam Howell as their starter, but new ownership usually brings pressure to find a Quarterback and if Levis has slid this far I can imagine Washington feeling as though they have to take him.

     

    17.   Pittsburgh Steelers – Christian Gonzalez, Cornerback, Oregon

    Personally I have Gonzalez as the best corner in the class and he would be incredible value here for the Steelers. I think their priority is left tackle, but there isn’t one left at this spot and as such I think they would prioritise the premium positional need at corner over a right tackle only like Darnell Wright. Gonzalez starts opposite Patrick Peterson day 1.

     

    18.   Detroit Lions – Bijan Robinson, Running Back, Texas

    This is the first spot that really makes sense for me for Bijan unless the Eagles take him at #10. A running back, even one as good as him, is a first round luxury but for a team with two first round picks it could be justified especially as the Lions lost their power back Jamaal Williams to the Saints in free agency.

     

    19.   Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Darnell Wright, Offensive Tackle, Tennessee

    The Buccs cut their left tackle Donovan Smith earlier in the offseason and their preference seems to be to move all pro right tackle Tristan Wirfs to the blindside. That would leave a gap at right tackle and Wright could slide straight in and start in front of Baker Mayfield.

     

    20.   Seattle Seahawks – O’Cyrus Torrence, Guard, Florida

    Seattle hit a home run at offensive tackle last year with Charles Cross and Abraham Lucas. Adding Torrence at guard would give them one of the better lines in the NFL and he is a scheme fit for the way they want to run the ball up the middle with Kenneth Walker.

     

    21.   Los Angeles Chargers – Quentin Johnston, Wide Receiver, TCU

    Keenan Allen has been a stalwart for the Chargers but he turns 31 on day one of the draft and missed time hurt in 2022. Mike Williams is an almost certain cap casualty (or major re-negotiation) after the season as his 2024 cap number is $32m. This team needs to look to the future at receiver. Tom Telesco has a type at the position – he values size – so Johnston is the obvious fit.

     

    22.   Baltimore Ravens – Nolan Smith, EDGE, Georgia

    With OBJ in the building and Lamar increasingly looking like he could still be on the roster come draft day I think an edge rusher becomes the priority for the Ravens. 2021 first rounder Odafe Oweh flashed as a rookie in a situational role but recorded just 3 sacks last season despite 6 starts. Smith is a bit of a project technique wise but he is an impressive physical specimen.

     

    23.   Minnesota Vikings – Joey Porter Jnr, Cornerback, Penn State

    This is sprint to the podium time for the Vikings who probably couldn’t imagine one of the top three corners sliding this far. Patrick Peterson left in free agency, Cam Dantzler was cut and their gamble on Andrew Booth in the second round last year despite questionable medicals didn’t immediately work out as he managed just 6 games and ended up on IR. Porter starts day 1.

     

    24.   Jacksonville Jaguars – Deonte Banks, Cornerback, Maryland

    The Jaguars are another team glad to see the corners fall down the board a little. 2nd year player Tyson Campbell had a breakout season in 2022 but the corner spot opposite him was a weakness all year. If the offense keeps scoring then teams will be passing a lot on Jacksonville. Having two capable corners is a must.

     

    25.   New York Giants – Jordan Addison, Wide Receiver, USC

    The Giants are bringing back Daniel Jones and Saquan Barkley, but receiver remains a need. Addison’s best fit is in a creative offense that is going to move him around the formation and exploit mismatches. Brian Daboll and Mike Kafka are the perfect duo to exploit his skillset.

     

    26.   Dallas Cowboys – Dalton Kincaid, Tight End, Utah

    If Kincaid gets to #26 he will get no further. Dalton Schultz left the Cowboys in free agency and while Jake Ferguson had his moments as a rookie he is an athletically limited day 3 draft pick going into year 2. Kincaid, in contrast, is a genuine weapon in the passing game for a team committed to putting more around CeeDee Lamb and Dak Prescott.

     

    27.   Buffalo Bills – Jalin Hyatt, Wide Receiver, Tennessee

    I think with this board the Bills would be very open to moving down, the question is would anyone want to move up? If they don’t I’d lean towards receiver as the pick even though Hyatt is  arguably a bit of a reach. The Bills have had a lot of receivers, including Hyatt, in for top 30 visits and that is usually a strong indicator of where this regime are at in terms of positional priority.

     

    28.   Cincinnati Bengals – Michael Mayer, Tight End, Notre Dame

    I think defensive back is definitely in play for the Bengals here, they lost both starting safeties in free agency and didn’t bring Eli Apple back at corner. But they did draft Daxton Hill in the first round last year and the depth of the class at corner might lead them to think they can wait on that spot. They also lost Hayden Hurst in free agency so a tight end that blocks and can be a safety valve in the passing game for Joe Burrow might be too good to pass on.

     

    29.   New Orleans Saints – Mazi Smith, Defensive Tackle, Michigan

    The Saints were not the strongest at defensive tackle in 2022, and that is before they lost both starters in free agency to teams within their division. Mazi Smith is already proven as a space eater but he still feels like he has untapped potential as a penetrator given his physical profile. He’d be an immediate starter.

     

    30.   Philadelphia Eagles – Jahmyr Gibbs, Running Back, Alabama

    The Eagles lost Miles Sanders to the Panthers in free agency and while they have dependable backup options such as Kenneth Gainwell, Boston Scott and Rashaad Penny I’m not sure any of those strike fear into opposing defenses. To maximise the RPO threat of Jalen Hurts I feel they need a dynamic runner and could use their second first round pick to secure one.

     

    31.   Kansas City Chiefs – Felix Anudike-Uzomah, EDGE, Kansas State

    Frank Clark hadn’t lived up to his contract the past two seasons, but he contributed for Chiefs in the playoffs and his departure means they are thin at edge. They drafted Karlaftis last year and he had six sacks as a rookie but they need a more dynamic fast twitch threat and Anudike-Uzomah from just up the road at Kansas State has explosive burst and bend to hunt down Quarterbacks.

    Thanks GB. I really enjoy when you do these. I like Hyatt better than the Addison pick in the TSW draft, but I'm still not excited at all by the wr options we may have in the 1st. But I am at least open to it. At least Hyatt has a little more speed to him and a little more length.

     

    I am not a college football guy, so I tend to watch videos and read more as the draft season starts. I came across this video below. Is it true about the Art Briles (sp) offense and the wr success when they discuss Hyatt?

     

     

  4. 23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    I think different analytics show different results.   Yeah, that BR article indicates that OL are only second slowest to develop compared to CB.  How they come up with that data I have no idea though.

     

    But what I think we know without a doubt is that OL is the worst quality position group across the entire NFL.   Most fan bases are very dissatisfied with their OL.  The reason why is not complicated IMO..........they are the worst athletes on the field so they need to develop excellent technique to not get beaten by the better athletes lining up across from them.   Getting there takes time.   

    I think your right on point. I believe I read somewhere that a lot of OL come into college and work on adding weight. Wonder if with the weight gains, it throws the body off and it takes an NFL S&C team to really get it right.🤔

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  5. 31 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    The problem is that it's a general consensus among OL coaches that most young OL are a liability until year 3.    Whoever the Bills draft in round 1 or 2 to play OL will likely be terrible and not be better than the veteran option on the roster in 2023.   There are exceptions but you have to be prepared to grade on a curve and as a SB contender we will not be down with that.    If they took Wright or Bergeron, for example, they would likely get a season out of them like they got from the injury-recovering Spencer Brown last season.   OL is a long term play.   Ideally whoever they take does not have to play much next season.

     

    WR on the other hand........yeah they often take half a season to adjust but they can be more impactful as rookies.   Individually speaking I think a WR taken in round 1-3 is more likely to have a positive impact in year 1.

    An interesting link that I found discussing this. Even though it's older, still interesting. 

     

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2027100-which-position-presents-the-biggest-leap-for-nfl-draft-prospects.amp.html

  6. 1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

    You mean like last year when Christian Kirk went on vacation with Allen and we all thought it would lead to the bills signing him?  Imo this doesn’t mean anything at all. 

    I get it. Just like Von and OBJ. But, either way, I think the Bills could have more information in house as it relates to Campbell. Don't spoil it for me! I still have 12 days to dream. 😜

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  7. 15 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

    Here is my way-too-long response…
     

    We need to come out of the 2nd round with 2 of these guys IMO (i personally feel we ought to be trading back if possible):


     

    Steve Avila: probably the most versatile G/C in the draft. He can slot in the middle seamlessly and if this is the last year with Morse he can take over under center for the next decade. His ability to Swiss Army knife into the line makes him super appealing and fits the Beane mold he values in OL flexibility. Run to the podium if he somehow makes it to 59.

     

    Jack Campbell: I have Simpson graded higher, but Campbell checks a lot of the right boxes and can tackle well. There is the Keuchly connection too, so there’s that. Sanders is fine too but I worry about his tackling. 

     

    John Micheal Schmitz: Best Center in the draft, but that’s going to be his one and only spot. If we get him somehow he might kick to guard for a year at most while we have Morse, but he is at his best in the middle of that line and is absolutely a McDermott kind of guy.

     

    Cody Mauch: I like him enough to take him at 59, but not any higher at all. Kick him inside and he will be great, but I’m not sold on him as a tackle. He has all the tools to be successful in the league though

     

    Keeanu Benton: Big hulking DT (who is also a wrestler, so McDermott already sold on him) who stuffs the run and is a force to be reckoned with. Admittedly not the best at getting after the QB, but in the 2nd he’s an excellent pick.

     

     

     

     

    **3rd Round - one or two depending on trade back 

     

     

    AT Perry: A bigger possession WR who can line up in any spot on the field and be effective. I think he struggles with contact a little bit and separation isn’t where I’d like it to be, but he can contribute day 1. I see him starting as 3/4 on the depth chart and moving up from there. Expecting more of him so early isn’t realistic but I think he gets there after a year or two. 

     


    Jonathan Mingo: Tall RAC machine. I feel like a lot of the bigger names are going to be gone in those first 2 rounds, and I don’t think we should go too far out of our way for a quality WR if we can avoid it. Mingo in the 3rd is going to prove to be well worth the slight reach - I have an early 4th round grade on him, but he’s not lasting to the end of the round IMO. This might be a little reach, but not an overreach if you get my meaning.

     

    Sydney Brown: He’s one of my favorite Safety options in the draft, and a 3 down player. Versatile as heck, and was a 5 year starter in college. He’s going to be good, and sitting behind Po and Hyde is going to help him get that much better. Now, that said, is he needed *now* to win *now* is the question. We have our Safeties, we have a possible returning Hamlin and Benford could make the move to Saftey as well. If we go BPA and he is in there, he’s the pick. I could see him go in the 2nd if the stars align possibly (though unlikely)

     

    Sam LaPorta: TE with good hands, routes and Measurables. He’s going to be damn good in my eyes, but I think he goes a little before before 91. While he blocks, sometimes he doesn’t block for long, so that’s the knock I have on him. Depending how the other picks


    Tre’Vius Hodges Tomlinson: 3rd/borderline 4th rounder. He overcommits sometimes but I think that is coachable. He’s met with the Bills and I think the interest is real, but you can’t coach size and at 5’9” he’s going to have challenges. I’m fine with him at 91, but could see him fall as low as 130. If he somehow makes it to 130 I don’t see how you could possibly pass him up.


    *Fourth or Later*
     

    Zack Kuntz: Monster TE, athletic as all hell, and has a massive catch radius. Get him blocking a little lower and he’d be a 3rd rounder. Could see him 4th or 5th round. Pick 130 sounds fair, but I could see someone reach for him earlier than that. That someone could even be us given his athleticism.

     

    Luke Schoonmaker: Another TE, another 4th or 5th round pick. TE is deep in this draft, and I think he’s a good TE2. I think Kuntz is the more intriguing prospect but for a 5th rounder he’s going to live up to or exceed his draft expectations.


    Andrew Voorhis: he’s not contributing this year with his combine injury, but I really like him and think he’s going to be good in this league. Obviously if we are picking for need he would be lower on the priority list, but he’s very interesting to consider at 137. 

     

    Mohammad Ibrahim: This guy is going to be Motor 2.0 - get him with pick 205 and let him do his thing. Low risk high reward. I don’t like any RB not named Robinson before the 5th round.

    Adding to your Campbell and Kuechly comment, I saw this D&C article.  Didn't realize he is also close with Ike and AJE. More connections than I realized. More pieces to the puzzle. 😁

     

    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2023/04/10/buffalo-bills-draft-prospects-can-jack-campbell-fill-a-need-at-linebacker/70089980007/

  8. 20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    You didn’t give me one example of why he’s not worthy of the pick other than that, in you our opinion, Addison is not better than the WRs we have….. and he’s not a fit.   But why?  
     

    Choosing a 2nd rd grade non premium position over a 1st rd grade premium position makes no sense no Matter how you want to explain it.  


    to me it just comes down to you love Campbell and don’t love addison because of his RAS.  Because if you watched him run routes and maneuver around on the football field, it’s clear that he’s better than 13.  

    and Gabe will be on a different team in 2024

    He's only a 1st rnd pick because of a week class. It's not because he is special in any way. Lacks speed, poor size, can't block, So he can run a route as long as nobody presses him. He's a slot receiver, not a wr1 or wr1b. We haven't seen what Shakir can do yet and he's bigger, faster and already has a year under his belt. It's not clear Gabe is not here in 24'. That's your opinion. I'll wait until this season plays out first.

     

    I do like Campbell. I believe taking him with our first pick would be a much better choice and use of limited resources. There are several WRs after the 1st round that will be available and can be a wr2. There are less options for a good MLB after the top 3 and by what I've seen mock wise and rankings, all 3 will be gone before our 2nd pick. MLB right now is much weaker spot on the team than our wr group. Josh is a great qb and can elevate a wr's play. Josh doesn't have to have a 1st rnd wr to have success. 

  9. 41 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    -Most say he’s worthy of a first round pick.  

     

    -He plays a premium position and one that we are in need of. 

     

    But drafting a MLB would make sense considering McD will be calling the plays now.  He wants his defense functioning at its highest level…… even if it’s at the expense of giving Josh just the 2nd 1st round pick to play with him since he’s been a pro.  And Kelvin Benjamin shouldn’t even count.
     

    @ScottLaw w r u ❤️ 
     

     

    I'm not arguing he is or isn't a 1st rnd pick. I just don’t believe he is the right wr for us and would be a poor choice given our needs and draft position. 

     

    Drafting a MLB would make more sense than a wr that, imo, is no better than what we already have.

     

    Does anything in Addison’s RAS score give you a warm and fuzzy feeling? Not me. Small and slow.

     

    I'll pass thank you.

     

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  10. 10 minutes ago, Bigvinny said:

     Cody Mauch

    Jack Campbell 

    I like this. Campbell of course,  he's my "Draft Crush" as some would say.

     

    Mauch, you can play him anywhere on the OL and will play until he passes out. Not many as versatile as he is. Would be a very good choice given what we currently have on the roster.👍

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  11. 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    Yep, in fact Cover 1 studied this and found a very high correlation between pre-draft meetings and the positions we draft:

     

    Statistically we should expect WR to be the first pick and not much focus on LB or OL.

     

    I would also just about guarantee we will draft a TE at some point considering we've been connected to so many TE prospects.

    And, how have our DP been lately?😉

     

    Change may be good and time to shake things up a bit. Freak everyone out and go against the grain. 😁

  12. 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Negative. Jordan Addison is our pick. Then they draft Trenton Simpson in the 2nd round.

     

    I have spoken.

    So, some thoughts (opinions).

     

    This year the wr group is far from good/great. Couple guys maybe 1/1b's. Johnson and maybe JSN and if one of them fell for some reason and were within reach, maybe I could see the Bills go wr with our 1st pick.

     

    I started reading a little bit on next years wr class and it looks better than this years group (so far). I think they wait and get a 1/1b until next year.

     

    This year, I think they look for a wr2/3 that has the potential to push Davis and give real competition for the wr2 spot and maybe some negotiating leverage, but a primary outside wr.

     

    We have Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Harty and Sherfield already and I believe they will add another (at least 2) via the draft, cuts or udfa.

     

    Saftey spots have basically already been filled and have options in house. CB spots are basically already spoken for. QB, RB spots filled. OL has been improved from what we had last year, but still plenty of room for more improvements. 

     

    So, imo, this leaves LB, OL, TE2, WR2/3 and DL as the week/weaker areas that this draft seems to have decent options available near our draft  position. Even with a couple of small moves either way. 

     

    So, LB as our 1st pick as I don't think the options are there after the top 3 (Campbell, Simpson and Sanders) to improve on what we currently have.

     

    There, I have spoken! 😁

     

     

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  13. 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    No I don't think in this class it would be fair to call him a reach at the end of round 1. N a lot of other classes he would be. But you can only draft the players who are in this class.

     

    I think the issue some are pondering is whether there is a lot of difference between the 27th player and the 40th player and whether you might maximise your value trading back a few spots. 

    Again thank You.

     

    With that being said, where does the cutoff begin for a 5th year option on value? Is it worth trading down 5-10 spots or is the 5th yr option better?

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