The Red King
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3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
FG was good with 16 seconds remaining. Just looked it up. They couldn't have gotten it lower. 3 seconds wouldn't be enough in case of a bad snap , most likely. Regardless, they let the game clock run as long as they could without incurring a penalty.
Yeah, just looked it up as well. I'll admit I was mistaken, deleted my reply. I blame old age, or trauma. ;-)
Joking aside, it was only 3rd down. They could have taken it down to two seconds before kicking and chose not to. Came back to bite them.
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3 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:
I love FLutie as much as the nexy guy, but methinks Rob Johnson would have been treated by the Bills fans way differently if Home Run Throw "forward" did not happen. Wade Philips coached a great game and his decision to bench Flutie for Johnson was fundamentally sound. Let us please be a bit kinder to Rob Johnson.
Calling a time out with three seconds left on the clock instead of two before kicking the FG, allowing one second for the Miracle to occur is not "coaching a great game".
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29 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
He played the most important position right? That’s why the whole frencheyes insanity on here. He did enough to get them there. Mainly he didn’t make stupid mistakes. The whole team liked him and was behind him. He is not a top notch QB. But he certainly didn’t deserve the hate he got. See how logic works?
Where did I say I hated him? Reread my replies in this thread. He is the baseline for average and was a good fit for the team until they finally outgrew him last season. I'm grateful to him for his contributions to the team, but the Bills finally need more out of the QB position then he can provide. I have stated I think the trade will work out for the best for both teams and TT. I've also noted that I think he will do good things for Cleveland. Just because I don't think he is a playoff calibur QB does not mean I hate the guy.
...and by your logic Dilfer is an elite QB, because he was the QB of a Super Bowl Champion. Same with Foles. Again, logic doesn't work that way.
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21 minutes ago, Billsfansinceday1 said:
Herr Dr. Frankenstein also appreciates nice knockers.? one of my favorite movies.
A true classic. Wilder played that scene perfectly. Calm on the surface, but through expression alone you knew that he already figured out what happened and he was only just keeping his cool by the skin of his teeth. Brilliant.
...Abby Normal. Wasn't that a past Bills GM?
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4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:
We are all picking on the OP, but he makes a good point in a way.
We we have to figure that Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson are likely to go in the top 6, with probably 3 quarterbacks. Those guys are the blue chippers, then there is a pocket of players, Smith, Edmunds, Fitzpatrick, James etc who are all pretty closely graded, then all of the corners and offensive tackles. I do think we will be able to get a quarterback with a trade up in that 5-7, but if we really want to get our top guy, we probably need to jump the Jets or Broncos. I do think one of the top 4 will be there at 7. I still don't think we will wait.
Likely. We are picking on the OP because his thread title listed his prediction as an absolute certainty.
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Just now, Sky Diver said:
Who knows. If Flutie doesn’t get pulled for the playoff game against TN, maybe they go to the SB and win.
Hmm, earlier I said...
QuoteAnd while many people debated the coach's decision to start RJ for the Titans game, nobody blamed RJ for losing it. That was on the coach for taking the time out at three seconds instead of two, leaving one on the clock...and on the special teams who had one job (let him return it anywhere, even the one-yard line...anywhere but the end zone).
...I stand corrected. Apparently at least one person does...
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Just now, Heitz said:
If he could use his clairvoyant vision help me find my glasses that I lost in the ocean yesterday, that would be a YUUUGE help! ?
Come now, it's pretty obvious the top five spots your glasses could be are already set.
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Thing is, we were desperate for a franchise QB. And while many people debated the coach's decision to start RJ for the Titans game, nobody blamed RJ for losing it. That was on the coach for taking the time out at three seconds instead of two, leaving one on the clock...and on the special teams who had one job (let him return it anywhere, even the one-yard line...anywhere but the end zone). As a result, people wanted to believe in RJ. People wanted him to succeed, to be the franchise QB we desperately needed. A lot of fans were willing to overlook his flaws and shortcomings at first because of that desperate desire. But in the end, RJ just didn't get it done. It was not Flutie's fault he didn't succeed in Buffalo, it was his. Young grew up in Montana's shadow and outgrew it. Rodgers grew up in Farve's shadow and outgrew it. Brady grew up in Bledsoe's shadow and outgrew it. RJ might have been in Flutie's shadow, but he had ample opportunity to outgrow it. Unlike the examples mentioned above, who outgrew better QBs then Flutie, RJ failed. That's on him.
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31 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:
It's pretty obvious the top 5 is already set. The question now becomes if Denver trades from 5 and what number the QBs are slotted in.
Allen
Barkley
Chubb
Darnold
Mayfield
The 5 that will be taken in top 5 of draft.
Sooo...you have inside knowledge and every mock draft confirms that with absolute certainty that these will be the first five picks? You are saying there is no chance whatsoever that any of the top five picks will differ at all from this? Bold claim. And if you're wrong about even one of them will you then return to this thread, apologize, and explain how the knowledge you claim as infallible was wrong?
...I really hate thread title absolutes. The draft can't get here quick enough... >.<
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3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
It will be. My gut tells me the ruthlessly pragmatic Belichick would've wanted to keep Jimmy G and trade Brady for whatever they could get out of him. Kraft overruled him and there's been friction between Belichick and Brady ever since. I don't know for sure though.
You're likely right. Honestly, at the start of the season I figured NE would try and eek out one more SB win and Belli and Brady would ride off into the sunset. Then Jimmy G got traded and that theory went out the window.
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8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
I don't know. Their organization has very few leaks and I don't know what to believe of what's being reported. You can look back at previous franchises who made the decision to move on (Manning to Luck, Montana to Young, Favre to Rodgers) when their veteran QB still had a few years in the tank. For whatever reason the Patriots didn't and that's really good for us long term.
I'll be curious to see what comes to light after the collapse. Right now all we have is speculation and circling vultures. In a decade or so we should have the full, true story of what's actually unfolding now.
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7 hours ago, nedboy7 said:
Lol. The guy took your bills to the playoffs. Hate away.
I hate this statement. I shake my head every time I heard it. He didn't take us to the playoffs. Shady and the D did. TT was part of it, but just because he was on the first Bills team to make the playoffs in the 21st century does not automatically mean he took us there. By extension, you are literally saying that every single starter...offense, defense and special teams...are playoff caliber players because they were on the first Bills team to make it in eighteen years. Please, please don't tell me you're saying that. By that logic, Colton Schmidt took us to the playoffs. Jordan Matthews took us to the playoffs. Charles Clay took us to the playoffs.
Argue for or against TT. Support him if you'd like. We're all entitled to our opinions. But please don't only use the fact the TT was on a playoff team as evidence that he is a playoff-caliber QB, or that he was the reason they made the playoffs. Logic doesn't work that way.
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10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
The problem was he did play well enough and the Pats simply didn't want to pay Jimmy G top 10 starter money to hold a clipboard as his contract was about to run out. He basically came two or three years too early. That's it. I expect the Pats to take a QB to groom in this year's draft as Brady only has two years left at best.
So you don't think Brady had a hand in getting Jimmy G traded? I'm asking honestly, not being sarcastic.
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The Comeback was the loudest for me. It was just a Wild Card game, it was even blacked out and a ton of people left at halftime...but those who were left (and those who snuck back in) continued to find ways to get louder and louder after each pivotal play and maintain that escalating volume level. I had never heard the stadium that loud, and haven't since.
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If reports are true, it says something about Brady. Upset that NE drafted a replacement? You're 40 and mortal. If I were in his shoes I'd be happy I was still playing and understand there will come a time, likely soon, that I will be either injured or so worn down I need to retire and when that time comes I'd hope the team I love has a plan.
Brady didn't want to be replaced by Jimmy G? Play well enough and he won't. I don't remember seeing a big QB controversy in NE last year where people were screaming in large numbers to pull Brady. Why? Because Brady was too damn good, regardless of age. And if Brady's play slips? Well...there's a reason older players retire. It's the circle of life. Players, even the best of them, age...and their abilities decline. Bruce Smith was easily better then our current DEs. Why isn't he playing instead? Age, of course. Players get old, erode, and get replaced.
Brady is set for life. He's got his rings, he's a lock for the HoF, has and will continue to make more money then he knows what to do with. If he really is doing this, forcing Jimmy G out so he can continue to be the one, true legend in NE. If he forced NE to compromise their future just so he can be comfortable in the spotlight a little longer...then that is truly pathetic.
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Just now, Richard Noggin said:
But in the spirit of healthy debate: is it THAT unfathomable to Bills fans that the 2018 team (which has very little to do with the 2017 team) might not win many games?
There is certainly the possibility they regress this year, but they are not going to be the worst team in the league. Not even close.
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Remember, last season Rodak said the Bills' season was over before it started, and that they and the Jets would be fighting for the #1 pick.
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42 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
I said it would be more difficult with an inexperienced QB. The Jets resigned McCown... or is he suddenly not experienced?
The Bills have ZERO veterans at the position. Maybe think things through before you quickly try to post a witty retort, disregarding everything else I posted.
To quote you directly...
QuoteTo expect us to have an even better record than that with a new, inexperienced QB at starter...
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Quote...and the AFC East being stronger by default (Tannehill returning, the Jets drafting a QB, and as always, all teams drafting/FA signings along with us)
I think through my replies very carefully, thank you. I just found it odd that you list the Bills starting a new, inexperienced QB was listed as a liability for the Bills, while the Jets drafting a QB (who, by definition of 'rookie' will be new and inexperienced) is listed as a strength for the Jets.
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Just now, reddogblitz said:
Does this count the one that hit Thompson in the hands for a first down that he dropped? After the punt, Jax got a crucial FG before the half. Or the one completed to Thompson that he ran out of bounds short of the sticks? Or when McCoy finally rips off a good run in thE 2nd half that got called back for holding?
Hotrod had a bad game but he waS far from the only one. What idiot called a pass on 1st and goal from the 1 with Kyle Williams on the bench? Oh yeah, the guy that got fired less than 48hours after the season ended.
Let me be crystal clear. At no point did I say the JAX game was solely TT's fault. But pointing out others' mistakes does not absolve TT of his. My opinion of TT differs from most. I think he's a good QB. But he has his limits. I think he is better then most TT detractors do and I think he is worse then most TT supporters. The JAX game was a game that BUF needed TT to step up, and he didn't. That is TT encapsulated. It's rare to be able to point to a game and say "Yeah, TT lost that one for us." But, at the same time, it is equally rare to be able to point to a game and say "Yeah, TT won that one for us."
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Just now, reddogblitz said:
Hotrod holds the record for highest completion percentage in Buffalo Bills franchise history.
That's not hard to do when 99% of your passes are short check-down, dump-off passes...especially when many of them are on 3rd and long. Statistics can be misleading.
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11 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:
Not to state the obvious or talk down to you, but this isn't Madden, right? You don't get the right to swap out the two starting WRs, replace them with bad receivers including one rookie that apparently can't catch a cold, then on top of that replace the scheme with frankly a world class bad OC, and say that little guy on the screen is just going to do what you say. It affects him, affects his confidence, distracts what he's doing on the field. I'm sure you get this.
The management and ownership of this team believed that Tyrod was in fact not holding back the team in 2015 and 2016. Why would they? In his first two years as a starter in the NFL he was averaging nearly 400 points a season. They brought him back for 2017. The consensus around the league was that Tyrod was (still) a good QB even after the abortion of last year; apparently there were at least three different suitors for him and it led to a bidding war. I'm sure you are really good at your day job. I think the talent evaluators in the NFL are pretty good too.
Tyrod was no worse or better than he was in 2016. We destroyed the environment on our way to cleaning up the cap space, left that man on an island, and all he did was QB the team to winning 9 of 15 games. And thank goodness he was able to politely say thank you very much with his mouth full of the $hit this organization stuck in there. And leave our fair city like a pro.
I realize it only speaks to his quality as a human being and not whether or not he was a great QB. And he's not a great QB - I'm not saying that. But for an organization to dump on him like they did in 2017? Sorry, I won't hold him responsible for that whole mess. Not for a second.Not to state the obvious or talk down to you...then you do just that. First sign someone is losing a debate is when they start relying more on insults then points. Sorry, not going to drop to your level. Well, maybe a little...
Okay, with that out of the way...
Watch the JAX game again. He had receivers wide open and didn't throw to them. The throws he did make beyond dump-off distance were in the dirt or behind his receivers. That is not the fault of anyone else. That's all on TT. He is baseline, mediocre. He is good enough to stabilize a bad team, but when the team needed to lean on him to win a game for them (Panthers, Bengals, Jags...), he simply can't do it.
Now, if you'd like to continue on with an intellegent, civil discussion of the matter, I'm game. If you'd prefer to just talk down to me and hurl insults, sorry...not my style.
Stay frosty!
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Just now, Bills4life1924 said:
But when I click on "Reputation Activity" it says "There's nothing here yet".. I made several votes during poll's and liked/thanked/etc other posts/comments.
I guess I'm missing something
After doing so, click on "Posts" under "Forums" and it will go into full detail on all of them. (see my prior screencap)
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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:
Interesting that it showed 63 for your rep when that was your post count. Your rep is actually 21. Even stranger, it's showing 21 now. Oh well, technology.
Ironically, at the time my post count and Bills4Life's rep count were both 63. The screencap is from Bills4Life's profile, not mine.
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Just now, jr1 said:
you can trade them for prizes like skee-ball tickets
And just like skee-ball tickets you need several hundred for a tic-tac, right?
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When the game is on the line...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Clutch is a very real thing. Different people behave differently when the pressure ramps up. There is a reason bowling teams don't always put their most talented bowler last. They put the teammate they think will respond the best to pressure with the game on the line.
Remember the glory days, "Nobody circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills!"? Clutch.