The Red King
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See my prior comments. Every team in the league had a passing play of 50+ yards. At least one. Everyone that is, except the Bills. In 15 1/2ish games TT could not do this even once. I know the receiving corp is meh, but you cannot look me in the eye and tell me that not one single play in all those games did he ever have a receiver open deep. The film clearly showed he did and he either did not throw it, or missed his receiver. Bad receivers lead to fewer deep throws, not *no* deep throws. That's on TT. Again, the receivers are as much to blame for the lack of offensive production...but at the same time TT is as much to blame as the receivers. Will AJ fix the offense? Not alone, but he should at least be able to stretch defenses and give McCoy a little running room.
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People are not saying TT was the sole reason the offense was bad. Even earlier this thread I noted the receiving corp was sub-par. A very good receiver might well have made the catch at the end of the Carolina game. A very good QB would have put that pass where a sub-par receiver could catch it. Sadly, we had a sub-par deep passer throwing to a sub-par receiver.
We're not putting the offensive woes solely at TT's feet, but we are holding him accountable for the factors he had control over. His reluctance to throw deep, even when he did have receivers open deep, and his inaccuracy when actually throwing deep are on him, and resulted in opposing defenses simply stacking the box. If TT had managed to hit his receivers deep when open, but they just weren't open often...then you could absolve TT and place blame solely on the receivers, but we all know that didn't happen.
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Buffalo's receivers did not mystically repulse the football into the dirt. Bad receivers are not open as often as good ones, but when they did get open it was all on TT to get the ball on-target, something he failed at regularly, more frequently the longer the throw. I think we all remember the end of the Carolina game. How many balls underthrown? How many in the dirt. And, of course, that's when he even saw the open receiver and threw to him. Yes, the Bills' receiver corp was subpar, but that does not excuse TT's lack of vision and downfield accuracy.
AJ, if he plays, should push the ball downfield more, even with the same set of receivers. Which, in turn, should spread the defense, giving McCoy a chance to run into something other then a brick wall resulting from a stacked defense.
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3 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:
Problem is they didn't say which draft
I don't see how picking 1 through 5 in the MLB draft is going to help the Bill's this year unless TP buys the Bisons and can work out a farm team deal with the Bill's...
Might be the NBA draft. After all, the Bills did make the NCAA Basketball tournament this year. XD
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This is how you do an April Fools Day post. Kudos to the OP, this one was creative!
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29 minutes ago, Charlottebillsfan2 said:
Time to chase the ladies around! Happy dingus day!
Ah, but this is a day for the ladies to do the chasing as well. Happy Dingus Day, all!
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11 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:
The Bills just received 5 first round compensatory picks by the commissioner... and he said that they will be the first 5 picks of the draft! HOT DOG!
The Buffalo Bills are trading away their first five picks to acquire a hot dog, confirmed here! ;-)
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Tough question to answer. My gut is telling me we're looking at 9-7 again...but what I'm really unsure of is if it will be enough to get in. I...I'm going to say 'yes', and rather then backing in, I have a hunch a key Week 17 victory, perhaps an upset, gets them in.
Last year's team overachieved, yes. But let's not overlook the positives of that. Be it coaching, heart, or a combination of the two, they did more then looked possible on paper. Nothing saying with the same coach and changing culture that doesn't happen again and this team pulls a few more surprises.
Tyrod is an anomoly, the ultimate baseline. He is a die that only rolls '3' or '4'. He kept some games close, but when the game neared the end if we were behind he couldn't give us the high rolls we needed. He took us as far as be could, and will do well in Cleveland, where 8-8 would be adored. We hit TT's ceiling, and when Cleveland finally does, their rookie should be ready. That being said, we don't know what AJ will bring. There is a very limited body of work to go by, and it doesn't include Bills' players, coaches, or schemes. What he does give is a chance to be better then TT and the risk of being worse.
If nothing else, I'm hoping he's willing to throw deep. Keep in mind McCoy was running uphill. Having a star running back and a QB that only throws short makes defense easier. You put eleven players, a couple cheerleaders and an assistant coach in the box and dare TT to throw deep. Hopefully AJ, if he's playing, will at least stretch out the D and make the offense less predictable.
For every game we barely won thanks to turnovers or such, there were games we barely lost, such as the Panthers and Bengels. I think we're going to gain and lose ground in equal measure this year, but our long-term outlook will look better. And, if nothing else, I think it will be entertaining.
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4 hours ago, OJABBA said:
This is what I find so weird. Why are you so wrapped up in "The Trentative Saga of Trent Edwards", 10 years on?
Are you related to him? A family friend?
He showed a sliver of promise (no more than truckloads of forgettable QB's that have passed through the NFL, but never really caught on), and lots of shortcomings (like truckloads of QB that have passed through the NFL, but are now forgotten). I mean, he's no Eric Hipple, or Scott Mitchell.
Will any Cleveland Browns fans be wringing their hands over what Derek Anderson's Legacy should be, 10 years later?
Are there Lions fans mounting a yearly defense on message boards, to uphold the honor of Jon Kitna?
All these guys were better than Trentative.
Why this emotional obsession over a not-that-notable QB?
There have been way better players that have been lost to injury, that never get mentioned on this board. When was the last time there was a Takeo Spikes thread?
None of the players you mentioned receive the venom Trent does. Hell, you've proven my point this thread just by labelling him "Trentative". That's why it's being discussed. Nobody is claiming the guy would have been HoF had he not been concussed, but many think he would not have been anywhere near as bad. And if that's the case, he simply doesn't deserve the abuse he gets. He certainly didn't look "Trentative" leading a come from behind win against the Raiders.
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Thanks, all. This is the kind of discussion I hoped to have. I'm not arguing Trent would have been a HoF QB, or that all the problems were the result of the concussion. Just, to me, there did seem to be very noticible changes, mainly to his decision-making abilities. If I recall, just before the Arizona game, Trent executed a brilliant 2-minute drill to pull off a comeback win vs. the Raiders. As we all know after the concussion his two-minute drills were awful, with constant check-downs and horrific clock management. It just seems like he couldn't think quite as fast as before, and sadly, that will kill a QB.
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After reading a post on Polian that mentioned Edwards, I figured I could put up a non-draft related one as a change of pace.
Trent Edwards started hot out of the gate, giving us hope for the first time in awhile. And then we played the Cards, and Trent was blasted into next week. The purpose of my post is to see if anyone holds my theory, that Trent never fully recovered from the concussion. That, had he never been concussed, he might well have been a star QB.
I know, I know, I can feel your skeptisism. I shared it. But then I saw it. One specific game against Miami made me question. Edwards took a shot, and something seemed to click. He was sharper, more decisive. He led them to an impressive, efficient TD drive. A later hit and he was back to captain checkdown. But what really drove it home was far later that game. 3rd and long, and yet again he checked down and took off...even though it was obvious he wouldn't make it. He was run out of bounds 2-3 yards shy. Or...was about to be. He ran to the sideline and then just pulled up and stopped, not past the sideline but just before it. Even the defender seemed confused. He eased up, and just as he was about to make contact, Edwards finally stepped out.
Once I saw that, I knew something was still wrong with Edwards. I went from being frustrated with him, to pitying him. And wondering, was the Edwards we saw him at his best, or were we watching a quarterback that never recovered from an early concussion? What do you all think?
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If you were a QB away from a potential Championship (Den, AZ, Jags), would you trade a #1 for Tom Brady?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The secret to Brady's success is pass protection. If you can get to him, you can rattle him. One reason he carves the Bills up year in and year out. He's also quite old. Were Brady to be traded, that team better have one hell of a front line blocking for him. If not, the "goat" won't even last the season, nonetheless win a championship.